Can Someone Post a Link of DO Ortho Matches For This Past Cycle

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I know there's a general match thread, but it's cluttered with hundreds of comments and the actual match lists are interspersed and NRMP only has ACGME matches.

I know it's very very early for me but the only reason I ask is because I started ortho research and if going ortho as a DO is pretty much impossible, I might start to look into research focused elsewhere.
 
Are you at a DO school now? If so I'm assuming you're going to enter a post merger match. Honestly this year's match stats aren't going to be really relevant for you. Most of the AOA ortho programs are still only taking DO applicants so the number matched won't really indicate the future well.
Nobody knows how much harder it's going to be for DOs to match ortho post 2020. It was already hard and will undoubtedly be more competitive as MDs can apply too. That said, it's not going to be impossible for DOs to become ortho surgeons.
My advice? Keep doing the research as long as it's not messing with your preclinical grades. I'm at am allopathic school with a solid ortho program. The residents I've talked to say ortho research is a huge pro for attaining a related residency. Conversely, if you change your mind or don't get the scores to do ortho later on, other residencies aren't going to ding you for having done ortho research. For instance, if you end up in IM or GS, having been involved in research will still be a plus even if it was in a different field. So sticking with the research now keeps ortho open to you and certainly doesn't shut other doors.
Worry about dissecting match stats after the merger. It's just too difficult to quantify at this point.
 
Keep doing the research as long as it's not messing with your preclinical grades.

Research >>> preclinical grades (assuming you can still do well on Step 1, and that you don't fail any classes).
 
I know there's a general match thread, but it's cluttered with hundreds of comments and the actual match lists are interspersed and NRMP only has ACGME matches.

I know it's very very early for me but the only reason I ask is because I started ortho research and if going ortho as a DO is pretty much impossible, I might start to look into research focused elsewhere.
Its not impossible, and you are doing the right thing if you want to match it. Research, Boards, and Letters, that is what you need. Your chances aren't great, but its the only one of the 'really hard to get into specialties' that DO's place any amount of people in. Your shot is certainly better than ENT, Uro, Derm, Plastics, or IR residencies.

And if you fall short, you certainly will have kept as many doors open as you possibly could have by aiming for the top.
 
Are you at a DO school now? If so I'm assuming you're going to enter a post merger match. Honestly this year's match stats aren't going to be really relevant for you. Most of the AOA ortho programs are still only taking DO applicants so the number matched won't really indicate the future well.
Nobody knows how much harder it's going to be for DOs to match ortho post 2020. It was already hard and will undoubtedly be more competitive as MDs can apply too. That said, it's not going to be impossible for DOs to become ortho surgeons.
My advice? Keep doing the research as long as it's not messing with your preclinical grades. I'm at am allopathic school with a solid ortho program. The residents I've talked to say ortho research is a huge pro for attaining a related residency. Conversely, if you change your mind or don't get the scores to do ortho later on, other residencies aren't going to ding you for having done ortho research. For instance, if you end up in IM or GS, having been involved in research will still be a plus even if it was in a different field. So sticking with the research now keeps ortho open to you and certainly doesn't shut other doors.
Worry about dissecting match stats after the merger. It's just too difficult to quantify at this point.

Hey, thanks so much for replying!! I am at a DO school now. I know this doesn't mean much, but my school has traditionally sent 4 to 5 people in Ortho every year, and it was a strong reason I chose this school.

It definitely makes me feel better to know that the door is not just slammed shut. I'm going to keep on with the research and see what happens. Thanks again1
 
Its not impossible, and you are doing the right thing if you want to match it. Research, Boards, and Letters, that is what you need. Your chances aren't great, but its the only one of the 'really hard to get into specialties' that DO's place any amount of people in. Your shot is certainly better than ENT, Uro, Derm, Plastics, or IR residencies.

And if you fall short, you certainly will have kept as many doors open as you possibly could have by aiming for the top.


Thanks man, I'm going to keep "gunning" for it and like I said, it is still very early for me. I still need board scores to be satisfactory and about a million other things to go right before I even think about applying ortho. I did have one question for you though. It sounds like you are at a DO school as well and my question is how much pre-clinical grades matter for competitive specialties. I know that I should try and do as well as possible, and I am, but as a DO, is there more emphasis on my preclinical grades?
 
It sounds like you are at a DO school as well and my question is how much pre-clinical grades matter for competitive specialties.

Go read the PD suveys. They do not matter very much, especially coming from a DO school. Step 1, research, and doing well in clinicals. That is the real **** right there. And of course, it is very important to build connections with ACGME faculty that will help you match - it is very difficult otherwise.
 
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It is not gonna happen
 
Orthopedics is very competitive. I have students match every year, 2-4, They are pretty uniform, top 10% , competetive board scores, research. If you want orthopedic, go for it. Reconsider if you are not competetive.
 
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