Can you get in-state status after 1st year in FL, TX, or OH?

[atomi]

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[rowerlauren]

It's true for Texas.

 

[Flamen04]

Yes for Florida

 

[nontrdgsbuiucmd]

I've heard from an OH admissions office that one can become instate in OH after first yr. I believe that's a no on Colorado, unfortunately. Pretty sure IL is a no, also.

 

[Maxx4]

Yes for Florida

Second this.

 

[atomi]

Second this.

Thanks! I know you can't in VA or NC. I also heard that NJ grants it to everyone.

Has anyone made a spreadsheet or list of each state and degree of difficulty of obtaining residency after the first year? If not, we should make one in this thread.

 

[atomi]

Second this.

But it is very difficult to GAIN admission if you are out-of-state in FL, correct?

I understand that FSU auto-rejects OOS applicants and the USF and UF aren't worth applying to because they hardly let anyone in. True?

 

[Pedsbro]

I was under the impression that most state schools will let you, but the key word is "easily". I'm not sure I would consider Ohio easy to become a resident for tuition purposes. Other than being here for a year, they have some other requirements about the source of your income during that time, and of course getting a driver's license and whatnot. Most of the Ohio schools have info about getting residency (for tuition) on their websites. I suppose it just depends on your circumstances. I'm probably going to become a resident in whatever state I'm going to med school in anyway

 

[Smctbone]

I was under the impression that most state schools will let you, but the key word is "easily".

good point. So to add to the other responses, you can get FL in-state tuition easily after 12 months. As soon as you get here, just register your car/tag in FL (with FL insurance obviously), get a FL license, and I think you may have to register to vote here as well.

But it is very difficult to GAIN admission if you are out-of-state in FL, correct?

I understand that FSU auto-rejects OOS applicants and the USF and UF aren't worth applying to because they hardly let anyone in. True?

True, though the only thing UF gives a hoot about is your MCAT score (not that I'm bitter or anything 😛). So if you really rocked the MCAT they might interview you as an OOS.

 

[Depakote]

I was under the impression that most state schools will let you, but the key word is "easily". I'm not sure I would consider Ohio easy to become a resident for tuition purposes. Other than being here for a year, they have some other requirements about the source of your income during that time, and of course getting a driver's license and whatnot. Most of the Ohio schools have info about getting residency (for tuition) on their websites. I suppose it just depends on your circumstances. I'm probably going to become a resident in whatever state I'm going to med school in anyway

Ohio isn't bad.

Requirements:
-get a driver's license (which means you need a lease)
-register to vote
-be financially independent (no one can claim you on their taxes as a dependent)
-file Ohio taxes

I took care of the first 2 in my first week here, the second two when I did my taxes. I just need to provide documentation later this summer before classes start for 2nd year.

 

[Pedsbro]

Ohio isn't bad.

Requirements:
-get a driver's license (which means you need a lease)
-register to vote
-be financially independent (no one can claim you on their taxes as a dependent)
-file Ohio taxes

I took care of the first 2 in my first week here, the second two when I did my taxes. I just need to provide documentation later this summer before classes start for 2nd year.

I guess it depends on each person's scenario. The financial stuff can be a little complicated out here...but maybe that's just my own situation.

 

[atomi]

True, though the only thing UF gives a hoot about is your MCAT score (not that I'm bitter or anything 😛). So if you really rocked the MCAT they might interview you as an OOS.

34 good enough? I am trying to figure out whether to apply to UF and USF. UF looks like a huge longshot if you are out of state.

 

[dnagyrase]

i think your problem in texas will just be getting in. the texas in-state schools can only have 10% (or even less) oos students in each class. baylor has about 30-35% oos students in each class but its baylor. good luck.

 

[UTnut]

Baylor is not a public state school and is therefore not required to accept 90% IS applicants. They are, however, probably the toughest Texas school to get into.

 

[rowerlauren]

In the past Baylor has accepted just under 30% OOS. These OOS are probably above the averages for Baylor though... making it very competitive.

 

[chessknt]

How about NY? After reading their requirements it said something about living in the same domicile for 1 year, but I dont know if the time frame on everything works out....

 

[TheRealMD]

It's true for Texas.

Not really. See below.

Baylor is not a public state school and is therefore not required to accept 90% IS applicants. They are, however, probably the toughest Texas school to get into.

Baylor's IS requirement isn't 90%, but somewhere around 75%. Unlike most private school, they DO have a requirement because the receive funding to make in-state tuition comparable to other Texas schools.

In the past Baylor has accepted just under 30% OOS. These OOS are probably above the averages for Baylor though... making it very competitive.

OOS stats are off the charts. Baylor is the only school in Texas that lets you switch to in-state residency after a year (after meeting the qualifications). That's what makes it such an amazing place for OOS applicants (even without the nice ranking). Other Texas schools however do NOT let you do this. If you apply as an OOS student, then you will pay OOS tuition all 4 years.

Though, there is a loophole that I know UTSW exploits for ALL OOS students (and some OOS students at other schools) that with a $1,000 scholarship, you can automatically be qualified to pay in-state tuition. But this is dependent on funds and has a chance of going away in the future.

 

[Phoenix.]

I've heard you can get instate tuition at a SUNY after one year. I haven't looked into it personally though.

And I know you can't get instate status for UVM. I interviewed there, and they were VERY clear about that.

 

[Ahmed786]

Can you get in state tuition in California after a year?

 

[chessknt]

I've heard you can get instate tuition at a SUNY after one year. I haven't looked into it personally though.

And I know you can't get instate status for UVM. I interviewed there, and they were VERY clear about that.

Sweet thanks. I dont see why some states are so hostile--obviously if we live there for 4 years we should be voting there, paying taxes there, etc. What more do they want out of a resident?

 

[TheRealMD]

Sweet thanks. I dont see why some states are so hostile--obviously if we live there for 4 years we should be voting there, paying taxes there, etc. What more do they want out of a resident?

Most states have income taxes. Medical students don't really pay those.

 

[chessknt]

Most states have income taxes. Medical students don't really pay those.

We are paying sales taxes, higher tuitions, state registration fees, etc. It isnt like in state students pay income taxes whereas OOS ones dont.

 

[ChemGrad08]

I think there is some feeling that the money the state is spending should go to better the state and OOS students are more likely to return to their home state after med school.

SUNY's definitely allow (and encourage) you to become in state after a year. But, you have to get your driver's license switched over ASAP.

 

[TheRealMD]

We are paying sales taxes, higher tuitions, state registration fees, etc. It isnt like in state students pay income taxes whereas OOS ones dont.

Parents of in-state students have paid them over time.

 

[Depakote]

Sweet thanks. I dont see why some states are so hostile--obviously if we live there for 4 years we should be voting there, paying taxes there, etc. What more do they want out of a resident?

Also, state schools generally have a mission to provide doctors for that state. While they can't control what they do after your residency, the thinking tends to be that a good chunk of docs will stay close to home... if they take someone from OOS, there's a decent chance they'll want to go back. They don't want 4 years of poor-student revenue, they want a doctor that isn't going to use them and run.

 

[atomi]

Most states have income taxes. Medical students don't really pay those.

I think it would be easy enough to get somebody to let you 'work' party time for a few hours a week to get a w-2.

Or you could set up an LLC in the state and pay yourself. Doable, right? Seems like a good attorney could find you a loophole relatively easily. I think it's absurd for professional students to have to pay out-of-state tuition since they are almost always paying it themselves (unlike in undergrad where mommy and daddy still live in CA and pay taxes there, but send their kids to NJ)

 

[TheRealMD]

I think it would be easy enough to get somebody to let you 'work' party time for a few hours a week to get a w-2.

Or you could set up an LLC in the state and pay yourself. Doable, right? Seems like a good attorney could find you a loophole relatively easily. I think it's absurd for professional students to have to pay out-of-state tuition since they are almost always paying it themselves (unlike in undergrad where mommy and daddy still live in CA and pay taxes there, but send their kids to NJ)

For any school, the usually require a year of living in the state.

 

[Depakote]

The only loop-hole I know of is being married to someone-working in the state.

Instant-residency. Your spouse finds a job. You pay 25K less in tuition. A bit of an incentive.

 

[nontrdgsbuiucmd]

The only loop-hole I know of is being married to someone-working in the state.

Instant-residency. Your spouse finds a job. You pay 25K less in tuition. A bit of an incentive.

There are some states (don't have my notes here, I believe for both IL and CO) where one retains the residency status one had as of the day the application was submitted. So you're "out of state" for all four years, regardless of becoming a state resident.

Typical requirements for the states that allow you to become a resident of that state:

-pay state taxes
-change your driver's license to that state
-register your car there
-pay utilities, keep bills to confirm this
-rent an apartment/buy a house
-register to vote.
-move to the state for a documented reason other than simply to go to school, i.e. to work

I checked this for CO, from my research here, the residency rules are somewhat subject to interpretation depending on the overall actions of the person, if most actions indicate that one intends to reside in the state and they do most things above, they become a resident.

 

[ChubbyChaser]

Thanks! I know you can't in VA or NC. I also heard that NJ grants it to everyone.

Has anyone made a spreadsheet or list of each state and degree of difficulty of obtaining residency after the first year? If not, we should make one in this thread.

Are you sure about NC...I thought I heard of some ppl doing this for UNC

 

[Depakote]

There are some states (don't have my notes here, I believe for both IL and CO) where one retains the residency status one had as of the day the application was submitted. So you're "out of state" for all four years, regardless of becoming a state resident.

True, there are a number of states that are like this. I was speaking for Ohio when I was referring to the Marriage loop-hole.

I believe Virginia is another state that establishes your residency at the time of application.