Can a carbon with a double bond be chiral? I thought in order to be chiral a carbon has to have 4 different compounds coming off it. SO how can a double bonded carbon for be chiral if its only has 3 things coming off it??/???
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carbon with double bond chiral?
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in the Destroyer, they said a carbon with 2 double bonds is chiral if both groups are different, for example CH3-CH2=C=CH3 ... i forgot what these were called. allenes? or something like that. it was because the two double bonds are perpendicular to each other, not parallel, so it has a nonsuperimposble mirror image, which is the definition of chiral
in the Destroyer, they said a carbon with 2 double bonds is chiral if both groups are different, for example CH3-CH2=C=CH3 ... i forgot what these were called. allenes? or something like that. it was because the two double bonds are perpendicular to each other, not parallel, so it has a nonsuperimposble mirror image, which is the definition of chiral
this is correct
oh sorry i made a mistake in my example. the two groups bonded to the two carbons directly double bonded to the "chiral" carbon have to be different, eg CH3-CBr=C=CHCl
in here, the =C= is the chiral carbon. note the two carbons directly bonded to it (both bracketed in next sentence). it's -CH3-[C]Br- with a CH3 and Br group, both have to be different; and -[C]HCl- with a H and Cl group. Both of these have to be different, and different from the other two as well. These 4 groups (CH3, Br, H, Cl) represent the 4 different groups on a typical chiral carbon that we all know.
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in here, the =C= is the chiral carbon. note the two carbons directly bonded to it (both bracketed in next sentence). it's -CH3-[C]Br- with a CH3 and Br group, both have to be different; and -[C]HCl- with a H and Cl group. Both of these have to be different, and different from the other two as well. These 4 groups (CH3, Br, H, Cl) represent the 4 different groups on a typical chiral carbon that we all know.
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The reason double bonds aren't chiral is because they are not tetrahedral and therefore have planes of symmetry (with the exception of alkenes which sometimes don't).![]()
NextStep says the left most carbon (double bonded to the Oxygen) IS NOT CHIRAL because it's NOT TETRAHEDRAL. But I thought double/triple bonded carbons with the exception of one, couldn't be chiral.