Cardio fellowships and DO friendliness

[Craigielawson]

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Just curious if anyone knows about top programs, whether IM or pediatric, that have cardio fellowship programs that are DO friendly. I'm interested in one of those fields (quite frankly adult congenital would be my dream job) or maybe even doing anesthesia with a cardio thoracic fellowship (yes, I know completely different, but still something that intrigues me). My step 1 USMLE was a 250 and Comlex 1 was 657. I tried researching on FREIDA, but half the programs don't have data on scores or a amount of DOs there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[67552931811]

Top peds residencies are attainable for DOs. IM, sadly, not so much. Cards is competitive for both. Regardless, peds fellowships are overall not that hard to get (even cards/EM/picu etc).

Also, I'm pretty sure most adults with congenital heart issues are actually treated/followed by peds cards guys/gals. Not 100% sure on that one (someone more knowledgeable please correct me if I'm wrong here).

 

[Craigielawson]

I've done some research as well as personally see an adult congenital. You can actually do adult or peds cards and then from there do an additional year of fellowship in adult congenital. It's quite strange how both can do it. Also, go hawks.

 

[NontradCA]

Top peds residencies are attainable for DOs. IM, sadly, not so much. Cards is competitive for both. Regardless, peds fellowships are overall not that hard to get (even cards/EM/picu etc).

Also, I'm pretty sure most adults with congenital heart issues are actually treated/followed by peds cards guys/gals. Not 100% sure on that one (someone more knowledgeable please correct me if I'm wrong here).

Ask @Instatewaiter and @J-Rad or search through their posts because they've both posted about DOs in cardiology before.

 

[67552931811]

Ask @Instatewaiter and @J-Rad or search through their posts because they've both posted about DOs in cardiology before.

Opinions are cool, data is better.

Problem is that we don't know the % of DOs who apply vs match cards for either IM or Peds, just the number who match (I think the last report on number apply/ number who match was like 2011?)

Look at the Peds fellowship data. It's not very daunting and there are a plethora of DOs at top peds residencies

Also, I'm not sure why you made the comment about instate, considering I made no remark regarding DOs in adult cards besides "cards is competitive for both": puzzling

 

[Instatewaiter]

Opinions are cool, data is better.

Problem is that we don't know the % of DOs who apply vs match cards for either IM or Peds, just the number who match (I think the last report on number apply/ number who match was like 2011?)

Look at the Peds fellowship data. It's not very daunting and there are a plethora of DOs at top peds residencies

Also, I'm not sure why you made the comment about instate, considering I made no remark regarding DOs in adult cards besides "cards is competitive for both": puzzling

So I'm not a DO but I do have experience with strong programs. There arent a lot of DOs at these programs. In all the programs I interviewed at for cards, none had DOs at the time I interviewed. I obviously didn't see every program and don't know everything about all the top adult cards programs.

Adult cards is very competitive. There is a self selection already in those who apply and even then you have a less than perfect match rate. Because all of the data of applicants isn't published you have no idea how many DOs applied but 44 matched... Imagine it is more competitive than US grads and similar but likely less competitive than foreign grads.

The only program I know that has taken DOs for adults cards is the Cleveland Clinic which has taken a few in the past but only because they did residency there. Most of the other top cards programs are also attached to top IM programs and those do not regularly (or ever for that matter) take DOs which makes a DOs ability to break into these programs difficult. If you are a strong applicant, you're probably going to match but perhaps not to a top program.

 

[67552931811]

So I'm not a DO but I do have experience with strong programs. There arent a lot of DOs at these programs. In all the programs I interviewed at for cards, none had DOs at the time I interviewed. I obviously didn't see every program and don't know everything about all the top adult cards programs.

Adult cards is very competitive. There is a self selection already in those who apply and even then you have a less than perfect match rate. Because all of the data of applicants isn't published you have no idea how many DOs applied but 44 matched... Imagine it is more competitive than US grads and similar but likely less competitive than foreign grads.

The only program I know that has taken DOs for adults cards is the Cleveland Clinic which has taken a few in the past but only because they did residency there. Most of the other top cards programs are also attached to top IM programs and those do not regularly (or ever for that matter) take DOs which makes a DOs ability to break into these programs difficult. If you are a strong applicant, you're probably going to match but perhaps not to a top program.

Indeed indeed. Which has always been my stance.

I'm sure you couldn't care less, since you are an MD, but it would be interesting to see how many DOs apply per year vs those that actually match. For example, the number matched from your post, 44, would be a decent yield if only 55-60 applied. But, if like 90 applied then yikes...

 

[HuskyPride149]

Hello, soon to be first year, interested in pediatric cardiology as well. In order to do that is the path suppose to be internal medicine residency and then cardiology fellowship and then peds fellowship? I'm still learning the proper steps in becoming a peds cardiologist.

Also, just a side question for those who may know. What is important when trying to match for a residency (ex. step scores, EC, etc)

 

[67552931811]

Hello, soon to be first year, interested in pediatric cardiology as well. In order to do that is the path suppose to be internal medicine residency and then cardiology fellowship and then peds fellowship? I'm still learning the proper steps in becoming a peds cardiologist.

Also, just a side question for those who may know. What is important when trying to match for a residency (ex. step scores, EC, etc)

3 year peds residency + 3 years pediatric cards fellowship.

http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/PD-Survey-Report-2014.pdf

Almost 2/3 of the peds PDs responded.