Cardiothoracic equals critical care?

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I know I am only a third year/second year, but I just wanted to do a freida search to see want programs are available in the northeast so I could possibly do a rotation through the hospital.
I dont know if I want to do cardiothoracic, but of all the fellowships this would probably be the one I would be interested in. I didnt see it in the freida search, I was wondering if cardiothoracic is critical care?
 
nope... cardiac is not an ACGME recognized fellowship. It will be soon... Criticial Care is recognized however.
 
I just wanted to ask a question regarding a cardiac fellowship. How does one go about applying to one especially if there is not a cardiac/cardiothoracic one at my institution? Is it competitive? Or do people do away electives in their PGY 4 year? I will go into private practice afterwards but would like a good grounding in cardiothoracic for a year. Do most of the residents get enough exposure to cardiac during their residency? Any thoughts from anesthesia residents would be greatly appreciated.
 
Applying for a cardiothoracic fellowship just requires that you contact programs with that fellowship for an application. Need to do it now though if you are heading into your PGY-3 year.

Our outgoing chief resident is going to Mass General for a combined cardiac and critical care fellowship that will allow him to finish in 1.5 years instead of 2 years. That one is somewhat competitive. Critical care in general though is not competitive and cardiothoracic is widely available.

Not all programs provide enough cardiac experience to their residents. I was contacted by a resident from a big and notable program in the north who was interested in transferring for his PGY-3 and 4 years because the program had to double and even triple up their residents in each pump case in order for them to make their minimum of 20 for the entire residency (only one resident is supposed to take credit for a CPB case with multiple residents involved).

In a program in Texas, if you do not make your numbers, the program allows you to code "extra patients" to get your numbers to acceptable/inflated levels.

In other words, it varies tremendously.

Having already done cardiac for my CA-2 year, I can tell you that it provides you with a unique skill set that makes almost all other types of cases seem routine (and even boring).

Be aggressive, stay late, and get as many cardiac cases as you can get. Even if you decide not to do them in private practice, the level of acuity of your patients, multiple procedures, and decision making skills you develop are absolutely indispensable for your future.
 
Thanx for the quick response UTSouthwestern. I am starting my intern year, so I still have ways to go. I have not made up my mind (100%) on a cardiothoracic fellowship, but from what I have seen that was the aspect of anesthesia that really attracted me to the field. I do want to include cardiac cases in future private practice opportunites, but I haven't decided if I only want to do just cardiac cases. If a cardiothoracic fellowship is more than a year, then i would be less likely to apply. I dunno but I do not want to be a resident/fellow forever.
 
Cardiothoracic will stay as a one year fellowship even when ACGME accreditation is formalized. Just remember that CT sounds attractive to do in private practice, but if it's all you are doing, you are likely to be making a lot less than your colleagues doing straight general.

Younger, healthier hearts are being diverted to interventional cardiology and there are much less private insurance heart patients than there used to be.
 
UTSW,

What is the difference between "cardiac" and "cardiothoracic"? Is the latter longer and more likely to involve lung transplants, etc.?
 
A cardiac fellowship usually includes thoracic cases during your training (lung transplants, etc.). When someone refers to cardiac or cardiothoracic, they are usually referring to one and the same.
 
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