CDP vs Real PAT

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Hello:

I am getting 17, 18, 19 on CDP. Do you think I can get more than 20 on the real one? Are angles as difficult as CDP? I cannot get more than 8 in angles in CDP. Can T/F/E in real DAT be done by only counting the events?
 
angles to me was comparable.

cdp angles however do not have like 1 short leg and 1 long leg like the actual.

TFE you can eliminate one or two choices with kaplan's event counting.

But you'll have to make use of what dashed and solid lines can represent.
 
Ummm, My angle score ranged from 4-14 even to the last few of my tests. Pretty much when i got over 8-9, I got a 20+, and got a 19 or 18 when i don't.

Having said that, I got a 22 on the real thing, and I found the angles to be SLIGHTLY easier. Try to consistently get 9-11 out of 15, and I think that will put you in a good position.

As far as line counting, there were a few (around 3). But tbh they wern't REALLY SUPER DUPER hard like achiever might be. They were pretty much around CDP level. I think there were a lot of questions where you can eliminate one answer by an obvious missing line, some can be eliminated because they are the wrong size, etc. So its not harder than CDP at all.

So over all, I started CDP with a 17 then a 19, a 22, a 23, then a 19 again. Ended up with a 22. I think for me it was dependent on the angles. It seems that you are in a similar dilemma. I think it is possible, and you could do it. However, you should really try to get a few tests at the 20 mark in CDP. Sub 20 means that you are still not comfortable with the easier questions. Cubes and hole-punching need to be 14 or 15 and need to be done very quickly to make more room for the other stuff.

hopefully I answered some questions
 
Thank you. Did you do CDP only once? Any good strategy for angles? Any strategy to be faster in hole-punching and T/F/E?
 
I actually only did tests 1-8. Didn't get the chance to do the last 2 or do any of the other ones again.

Holepunching: Its just practice. Just make sure you look at the symmetry of the fold. If you are running out of time, you can sometimes eliminate 2-3 choices just by looking at the type of folds you have. also, if you are sufficiently fast on the other PAT stuff, you can use a grid to help out with the 2-3 that are actually hard. Also, sometimes there are a billion things happening, so make sure you go backwards 1 step at a time. "Okay so from this fold I got a hole here and here... Ok now to the next one I fold symmetrically over here, so now I have holes here here here here etc." There are no steps you can really skip, so speed isn't really from a trick as much as how fast can you actually do it. again, practice 🙂

Angles: I wish I knew, I pretty much gave up on all techniques and just used my eyes, with some hill technique... prolly got lucky lol.

TFE: I never ever answered a question where it was like "here is A B C D, I think its A". Never. Its always elimination. I don't even really look at the object at the beginning. I just see the differences in the answer, and try to eliminate. Some questions you can picture the object, some you cannot. So you have to find the line that is "supposed to be there". At first, I'd look at one detail and eliminate one, then look at another detail, and eliminate another, etc. But I found that most of the time you take 3 passes to get your right answer. So when you look for differences in the choices, find things that are shared by 2 but not by the other 2. For example, if a line is dashed in 2, and solid in another 2, that would be a prime candidate for inspection, because it eliminates half the choices. Sometimes, every single one is kind of different, and sometimes the actual thing you are inspecting is undeterminable and you have to look else where. These things become more apparent with some practice.

Also I'm pretty sure most of this stuff is common sense, the key is practice. Also make sure you go over your tests very thoroughly (even more thorough than when doing them) to look for patterns. There are only so many things they can throw at you.
 
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