Chances? Add more schools? Go abroad?

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If you can't get your BA by the summer, that pretty much bumps it to next year.

Your DAT being taken yesterday, will take another 2 weeks before it is uploaded and then sent out to your schools.

This puts you 1st week in October = late cycle, post 1st round.

If you want to spend the money, go for it. If not, things are tight and you really won't have your BA, then wait til next year. Your DAT is good for 2-3 years and the score is truly great.
 
you see, the thing is on the schools' website, they don't list getting your undergraduate degree as one of their requirements for admission. some even say that you can apply after completing 2 years, and some schools do admit people without their BA / BS.

can anyone confirm this?
 
you see, the thing is on the schools' website, they don't list getting your undergraduate degree as one of their requirements for admission. some even say that you can apply after completing 2 years, and some schools do admit people without their BA / BS.

can anyone confirm this?

Technically, yes.

However, most applicants DO have their bachelors, if not more, and if you don't have one, will make you a less competitive applicant. Unless you have something significant that makes you stand out.
 
I wouldn't recommend going abroad for dentistry
 
Your DAT being taken yesterday, will take another 2 weeks before it is uploaded and then sent out to your schools.

This puts you 1st week in October = late cycle, post 1st round.

Even if schools receive your completed app in 1st week of Oct, it doesn't mean they will review it then. You could be placed behind a large pile of apps in queue that need to be reviewed first.


you see, the thing is on the schools' website, they don't list getting your undergraduate degree as one of their requirements for admission. some even say that you can apply after completing 2 years, and some schools do admit people without their BA / BS.

can anyone confirm this?

The few people who get admitted with the 60 minimum credits are ones with 4.0 GPA/30 DAT and have found a cure for cancer. Unfortunately, you're not one of them.


go abroad and do dentistry there (I have been contacting EU schools, but I am not sure if that'd be a wise career move)?

Going to dental school abroad to become a dentist in the U.S. thru the backdoor is a ******ed idea. You can't get licensed to practice in the U.S. without graduating from an ADA accredited school. Thus, after dental school in the EU, you would still need to attend a 2-yr international dental program at a U.S. dental school (costing you additional $150-200K) and these programs are even harder to get into since they get tons of applicants from China and India who are practicing dentists for 10+ years. So you may wind up being stuck being a dentist in the EU for the rest of your life which may or may not be a bad thing.


I don't know what the hurry is. Just wait until next cycle when you can apply in early June. After dental school you'll have a 40-yr career if not retiring early. Thus, what does one year difference make?
 
Stay in the U.S... America has a fantastic array of dental schools that can cater to students of all levels and backgrounds. Consider yourself lucky that you live in a country where opportunity is vast and broad; there are schools with average matriculant GPAs of 3.2 and 19AA and others with 3.7 and a 23AA. This is in stark contrast to say, Canada, where there are only 8 dental schools and you need to be the best of the best (GPA 3.8+) to get in.

You'll get in somewhere, eventually. Just stick with it.

Though I do believe your luck may be out for this year. Best bet is to start preparing early for next cycle. Good luck!
 
I'm not thinking about going there for dental school and then coming back. I'm more like if dental schools here don't want me, I'm just going to give up on the country as a whole, and practice in the EU. :luck:

I suppose if you're not originally from here this makes sense, but I love my country a lot more than dentistry. I don't mean anything by it, but wow. There have got to be other ways.
 
I suppose if you're not originally from here this makes sense, but I love my country a lot more than dentistry. I don't mean anything by it, but wow. There have got to be other ways.

I don't think Yachi means it in such a strong sense. I have to face the prospect of leaving Canada to study in the States. I am doing this because the odds are stacked against me that I'll be able to get into a school in Canada, and much to my chagrin, I may have to go to the States or Australia. It doesn't mean I don't love my home; if I got into a school here, I wouldn't give it a moment's thought--I'm staying. But the fact is, for many people, staying home is not an option. They take what they can get. Besides, it's four years, and there are indeed ways to return home afterward; but who knows, you may find that that's not what you want.

However, as I said before, I think the OP has a great chance at a good number of schools in the States. No need to give up on staying home yet.
 
Don't get me wrong. I can understand going to another country for school, but for good? That seems a little extreme.

Sorry, I didn't read Yachi's previous post clearly.

Yachi, I don't quite know why you would rule out coming home entirely right now. You're not in the industry yet, not in the field. You might be right; you could go abroad and never come back. I've lived in Shanghai before and I loved it there. I would have little hesitation moving back if that was to be the case. But I have just as many reasons to stay in Canada as well.

I think it's a bit early to say. I encourage you to explore international options for schooling, but keep in mind that at this moment that's all you can look into; it's too difficult to make the judgment call that you're going to stay wherever it is you end up going.
 
Well, your DAT is great! If, for some reason, you don't get in this cycle, I'm sure that with some more upper level science classes to bring up your sGPA you'll do fine next cycle. Good luck!
 
Look, reality check, you CAN get into dental school without a degree, however, the chances are one in a million. At UCSF this year EVERYONE has a degree and two have masters. It sounds like yr a young guy so just finish up yr degree get your app together (get your GPA up a bit cuz it is pretty low) and apply next year. One more piece of advice: relax.
 
kinda on same boat. also art major btw 🙂 is it too late to add schools? like LECOM?
 
You will most likely not get in this cycle (due to timing).

Take a year off man. Go travel and have fun. Because it'll all end once you get in 🙄
 
Thanks Tirekicker and cleanup. I have been thinking about this for the last several months. I don't really doubt my ability to get in dental schools here. People with lower scores than me got in, so I think I do stand a chance.

US being the way it is at the moment, I thought the market might be more stable in EU in the long run, for the next 20-30 years? I don't really know. It seems very unpredictable. If I get my certification in the EU, I can practice in all EU countries, including UK. If I go to school in the US, I will need to retake their boards, which I heard has a very low pass rate for international dentists? I could be completely wrong on this.

I lived in England for a year, and I was just much happier there than I am in California (I know, I'm strange). I thought about having a practice that targets the expats in England, since there seems to be a lot of Americans who would often travel back to the US to see dentists because the NHS waitlist is too long. Maybe I am just thinking wayyyyyy too much.

Wrong. You'd need to enroll into a US dental school as an advance standing student. As my NYU tour guide said, he loved it so much that he went through it 2x.

I think that is even harder than just going straight into d-school from the US.


This is why I think you should apply next cycle:
1) You need to procure one more LOR.
2) You'll have your entire senior year's grades when you apply. (Do very well please.)
3) Since you are applying at the end of senior year... you'll have plenty of time to finish your degree.

All of the above will make you a more competitive applicant.
 
I sent off my application in June, and had only taken my DAT yesterday.

GPA: 3.23 science 3.28 overall
School: UCSD
Major: Arts
DAT: 23 PAT 21 AA (22 Bio 22 GChem 21 OChem)
Experience:
+200 clinic hours (I am x-ray certified as well)
+50 shadow
studied abroad for a year in Scotland with Duke of Cambridge. I literately did 😀
studied abroad in Rome for a summer
NCAA athlete (rowing), fencing and golf for fun

Applied: USC, NYU, BU, Maryland, and Loma Linda (for which I still haven't found myself a Guru, would anyone like to go to India and do a soul-searching with me?)

Here comes the issues:
1. I am one letter of recommendation short. I misunderstood what he meant by "we can talk about it" as a "yes!!"
2. I am not sure if I can get my BA by the end of the summer.

Solutions:
apply to more school?
apply next year when I can definitely get my BA?
go abroad and do dentistry there (I have been contacting EU schools, but I am not sure if that'd be a wise career move)?

Hey whats up Yachi? Here's what I think you should do. Do you have some money to spare just in case you don't get in this cycle? If so, APPLY YOU GOT NOTHING TO LOSE!

Get ur last letter of rec ASAP and submit to at least the following schools:

Roseman, Tufts, all Cali schools, both Midwesterns, LECOM.. look on predents and apply to any that have not given out interviews yet as well as ones that fit into your budget

Your DAT scores are well above average and your GPA is hovering around average.. you definitely have a shot you just need to be smart about it and move quickly.

As for graduation, how hard would it be for you to graduate by next summer? If it is really hard then I highly suggest calling schools up and seeing if they even allow ppl in w/o degrees. Some will but just make sure. At this point just take all the classes u need to graduate nothing else.

As for going abroad- there are some catches such as very long and expensive plane tickets to get there w/ possible risk of being rejected. Also, like you said.. you would basically have to live there for the rest of your life unless you wanna apply to US d-schools. IMO, that could be a very large sacrifice so think it through very carefully. Best of luck.

oh and if your cute, female and single then yes I will go to india with you.. lol jp
 
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