Chances and alternatives?!

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blahblahpremeds

MD class of 2021
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Hey all,

What do you all think my chances of matching into DR are?

-Step 1- 213 (practice exams were much higher, had a bad test day. Still not an excuse, but it is what it is)
-Step 2: yet to take will try to aim high

MS3: high passes so far

Research:
1 first author pub -Neurorads
1 case study (Rads related), poster presentation regarding the same
1 first author pub about non Rads related research project
Ecs - Pres of Rads IG at school

I wouldn't mind attending a community program for residency. From what little I've seen of MS3- I really don't enjoy rounding or patient interaction much. I don't like taking histories and doing physicals either. So far, the most enjoyable parts for me have been interpreting patients' imaging results and putting it together with the clinical picture.

Geographic preference: NE.
I attend a USMD school.

So, what do ya'll think? Acc to the 2018 match data, I'd have a decent chance of matching even with my low STEP 1. Any advice?
Any other alternative fields in medicine that would be similar or more enjoyable for someone like me?
 
No insights Re: chances of matching, but have you looked into Pathology at all? Could be a decent backup if you wanted to dual apply. No patients, no rounding. Still image (well, slide) based, but more basic science-y than rads and less "clinical".
 
I think you have a chance at matching, I would definitely apply broadly and not just in the north east. You are fighting an uphill battle and need to keep your options as open as possible. Study hard and do as well as you can on step 2, do as well as you can on your rotations, and try to cultivate letters of recommendation from our home radiology department. I would apply to like 75+ programs with that step 1, if not more. If you do that, I think you would have a good chance of matching.
 
Right now, a 213 Step 1 will get you screened out of most rads programs in the country unless you have connections with them. I would apply with a back-up specialty such as Nuclear Medicine or Pathology (if you're not into direct patient care). However, it's possible that rads may become less competitive soon. While the job market is good now, the rapid advancement of AI and also the high possibility of outsourcing will significant decrease the number of U.S. radiologists needed on the market by the time you would be finishing residency/fellowship (which would be about 8 years down the line), so just keep that in mind.
 
After just having gone through the match, I disagree with basically everything collegestud2013 said. That 213 certainly isn't doing you any favors but if you apply broadly and attend every interview you should match somewhere. That said, you HAVE to take step 2 ck ASAP and kill it.
 
Right now, a 213 Step 1 will get you screened out of most rads programs in the country unless you have connections with them. I would apply with a back-up specialty such as Nuclear Medicine or Pathology (if you're not into direct patient care). However, it's possible that rads may become less competitive soon. While the job market is good now, the rapid advancement of AI and also the high possibility of outsourcing will significant decrease the number of U.S. radiologists needed on the market by the time you would be finishing residency/fellowship (which would be about 8 years down the line), so just keep that in mind.
Tell me how AI is affecting real life reads now, I don’t want to here about some controlled environment study? The outsourcing is completely bogus, Medicare is not going to pay for outside the US reads. The pessimist have been saying what you just said for the last 20 years and as far as I know AI can’t even label vertebral bodies on a lateral cxr. Look I’m going to give you another example that has nothing to do with medicine, AI google translate English to Spanish is about 70% accurate for less know languages it’s way lower, so how do you think AI stands at a real life CT abdomen and pelvis read when AI can’t even get a simple translation right. My guess is we are still decades away from any radiologist getting laid off secondary to AI.
 
Right now, a 213 Step 1 will get you screened out of most rads programs in the country unless you have connections with them. I would apply with a back-up specialty such as Nuclear Medicine or Pathology (if you're not into direct patient care). However, it's possible that rads may become less competitive soon. While the job market is good now, the rapid advancement of AI and also the high possibility of outsourcing will significant decrease the number of U.S. radiologists needed on the market by the time you would be finishing residency/fellowship (which would be about 8 years down the line), so just keep that in mind.

I am going to call it BS.

I have heard about outsourcing since early 2000s. You can easily do a search on radiology forums and this forum and you can easily find out that people were talking about outsourcing since 2000-2003 and the technology WAS DEFINITELY there. It never happened. In fact, the opposite happened and a few US Board certified radiologists that used to read from Australia, India and Europe do not do it anymore due to more regulations.


About AI. It won't be any issue in our life time. The FDA approved CAD for mammography more than 20 years ago. Most radiologists even don't bother looking at it. I know people always say that this time is different.
 
Right now, a 213 Step 1 will get you screened out of most rads programs in the country unless you have connections with them. I would apply with a back-up specialty such as Nuclear Medicine or Pathology (if you're not into direct patient care). However, it's possible that rads may become less competitive soon. While the job market is good now, the rapid advancement of AI and also the high possibility of outsourcing will significant decrease the number of U.S. radiologists needed on the market by the time you would be finishing residency/fellowship (which would be about 8 years down the line), so just keep that in mind.

Lost all credibility when suggested nuclear medicine residency.
 
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