Chances for these 0-6 Pharm Programs?

[anon89]

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hiya! 🙂 I'd love to go into pharmacy but I'm not too sure if I'd be able to make it into the 0-6 program, here are my stats:

stats:
NY (nyc) resident asian female
GPA: 3.3/3.4 UW (out of 4.0) (which is an 89-90)
SATs: 1750 (just took it in june hoping/expecting a 2000)
SAT IIs: none
School doesn't rank
Freshman year: regents lvl classes
Sophmore year: math and bio honors
Junior year (this year): math and chem honors
Senior year: european history AP, Physics AP, and chem AP (i'm taking 2 science APs in the same year, no one really does that at all in my school, actually I'm the first)

Extracurrics
- track in freshman year
- hoping to volunteer in some pharmacy/dentists office this summer
- my artwork has been to a lot of places (local college and mall a few times and some art shows)

do you think i'll be able to get into these programs?

- Albany College of Pharmacy
- Massachusetts College of Pharmacy
- Rutgers University
- St John's University
- University at Rhode Island
- Philadelphia College of Pharmacy

.. and what about scholarships for those schools?

thanks so much! 😀

 

[luckyPharmD.stu]

To be honest, you won't have a shot at rutgers; they usually take in-state students for the most part. Same for University of Rhode Island; they also take in-state students mostly. Also, you'll need to improve on your SAT scores. Because of the 1750, I'm not sure if it's enough to gain acceptance. Btw, your GPA is pretty good and the courses you're taking are rigorous. You might be on the waiting list for acp or st. john's. As of now, it's not impossible, but it will be a bit tough for you to get accepted automatically.

edit- Just in case you want to know...Rutgers is one of the best/hardest to get accepted to. As for the scholarship, you might get several thousands of dollars from PRIVATE schools (usp, acp, st. john's). If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

 

[twester]

It's my understanding that Albany uses GPA almost exclusively for admission purposes. I don't know if that's just for transfer students or not. I'm sure somebody in the forum has real experience with Albany.

 

[ADN1226]

Honestly 3.4 is a lil low for hs so def try as hard as you can to increase it. Rutgers is pretty hard to get into... like i said before my roomie was no. 1 in her school, 4.0 gpa and was wait listed for rutgers... but she got in... still, this is 2yrs ago so its even more competitive now. But I heard st. john's isn't too hard and so is USP -so definitely go for those schools. I don't know about the other programs.

 

[xml2]

Mass College of Pharmacy in Boston is the EASIEST school to get into. Moms, dads, sisters, brothers, COME ON IN!!!


Because it is easy to get into, the NAPLEX level shows - lowest in the nation. They have these rotations (not the final year), where students go to community and hospital settings to learn about pharmacy. What's stupid is that you put in 5 hours a week for the span of eight weeks. Ask yourself, how can you learn MUCH just putting in 5 hours a week? After one week, your retention level diminishes. Some pharmacists comment the stupidity of the rotation program.

Our next door Northeastern has co-op, which pays you and it's four-month long. Tell me is that more practical. It's six-year long, as well.

 

[anon89]

thank you all so much! 🙂

I really want to go to ACP so I'm going to visit and ED them so I think I'll have a good chance(will I?)... I also called the admissions office and asked them just generally about my chances with that GPA/SAT and they said I'd have a good chance 🙂 I'm mostly worried about financial aid/scholarship money with ACP

I really didn't think I was gonna get into Rutgers anyway 🙁

xml2, does that mean I shouldn't go there? sorry I'm kinda new to the actual pharm program

 

[guytim]

anon89

I don't think you should base your decision of not applying to MCPHS simply based on one person's (xml2) experience. If you look at xml2's past posts, those posts all bash MCPHS, so of course, xml2's opinions are going to be biased towards hating MCPHS. I'm sure xml2's comments are valid, but you should also talk to those who hold MCPHS in high regards. I think you should call MCPHS and every school you plan to apply to and ask for their individual requirements. Pharmacy is such a competitive field right now and no school is easy to get in to. I know people who have lower GPAs that got in over more competitive applicants, so it really depends when we talk about the "easiness" of a school.

Good luck! I'm sure you will have many opportunities.

thank you all so much! =)

I really want to go to ACP so I'm going to visit and ED them so I think I'll have a good chance(will I?)... I also called the admissions office and asked them just generally about my chances with that GPA/SAT and they said I'd have a good chance 🙂 I'm mostly worried about financial aid/scholarship money with ACP

I really didn't think I was gonna get into Rutgers anyway 🙁

xml2, does that mean I shouldn't go there? sorry I'm kinda new to the actual pharm program

 

[xml2]

to anon89: Make it your safety school, okay? (that's what i did)


guytim: you are right. i'm biased. i have been the only person bashing that school. Calling the admission office of any school will get you hopes high. The picture they paint you is always positive - pure advertising. that's no brainer. you want the real deal - talk to the students who attend the schools.


my opinion doesnt represent the whole student body, but i am confident in what i say represent the many students' views of the school. as stated before in some other post, do take what i say with a grain of salt, and make sure you talk to the students who attend there before u decide. chances are what i have been posting are shockingly credible.

thank you all so much! =)

I really want to go to ACP so I'm going to visit and ED them so I think I'll have a good chance(will I?)... I also called the admissions office and asked them just generally about my chances with that GPA/SAT and they said I'd have a good chance 🙂 I'm mostly worried about financial aid/scholarship money with ACP

I really didn't think I was gonna get into Rutgers anyway 🙁

xml2, does that mean I shouldn't go there? sorry I'm kinda new to the actual pharm program

 

[anon89]

thanks a lot you guys! 🙂

I know I'm definately going to apply to all of the schools I listed, even if I have no chances, the only possible exception might be Rutgers haha, cause I know I have NO chance

what do you guys think of St John's? I emailed the admissions office and they said the requirements to apply were an 88 gpa and 1200(old) SAT score.. I think that if I got a 2000 on the June (scores come out the 26th) then I can apply to it

but will I still have bad chances of getting in? like do a lot of the people apply having high 90s and near perfect SATs?

oh and I think I should mention that I'm applying as early as I can to all of the schools (around October-November) and doing ED to ACP and EA wherever else they offer it

 

[Darvocet]

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[luckyPharmD.stu]

Many people expressed their concerns on whether getting a D on a previous course will prevent them from gaining acceptances. The answer is no; your gpa is astounding and the courses your taking are impressive. If you aced the sat's, then getting into pharmacy program won't be such a problem. But these days, thousands of people apply to pharm program so don't be surprised to get a rejection letter or wait-list. To be realistic though, most likely you'll get in.

To answer the previous question, st. john's is much harder to get into because so many people (3,000+ people) applies to this popular school. Most likely, you will be on the wait-list. But i think you will have a shot; i think. Apply to st. john's as soon as possible (early decision) and possibility will rise. there is a post about this school; use the search box to find more info. As for acp, i dunno too much about that school, but i heard that it is tougher than other schools to get in.

 

[anon89]

...I got a C- in Algebra II Honors in my sophmore year, will that hurt a lot?

Edit: actually all of my grades dropped in my sophmore year, but I was out of the country for 2 months for a family emergency so ...

Edit again: I'm going to ED ACP and apply early (Oct-Nov) to St John's, should I still expect waitlist?

and thank you so much btw, you've been a big help 🙂

 

[anon89]

anyone else agree about my chances at St John's?

luckyPharmD.stu, I'm not doubting you 🙂 I'm just curious as to what other people think, I don't mind not being able to get into their program 😛

 

[anon89]

anyone...?

 

[luckycloud5]

i don't know too much about 0-6 programs, but i do know that C- grades are not accepted...

 

[anon89]

thanks luckycloud 🙂

bumping!

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Anon, your HS grades will be looked at when applying to 0+6 programs along with your ACT or SAT scores. The stats of the incoming 0+6 students at Butler are that 95% were in the top 10% of their high school classes they had an average ACT score of 28. I just thought I would pass this along so you can get an idea of stats from a 0+6 program.
Best of luck!

 

[luckyPharmD.stu]

95 percent in the top 10% of their class? holy...

 

[anon89]

wow... I don't think ALL of the schools are that crazy.... at least.. I hope so 🙁

thanks for the heads up though!

 

[ADN1226]

Anon, If you don't get into any programs just go to a community school, get an associates degree with high gpa and apply to a 2+4 program... you'll go straight into the professional years with all the pre-reqs finished. And you'll still be at the same place as getting in a 0+6 program. Just know that there are other options if you can't get into a program now. Since you know where you want to go, now you know what to do to get there 🙂 Good Luck!

 

[xiaoxun37]

hi Anon, i applied almost all the pharm school (except RU and URI) last year as a high school senior. I get accepted by all those 6years phram D program except ST.JOHN's. I have decided to go to ACP this fall. My SAT score is 1900, SAT 2 Math level two score is 800. my GPA is 3.92, rank NO.7 in my HS. St.John is so hard to get in, honestly. I live in nyc too, and i'm also an asian female. if you want to talk more about admission process with me, i would like to share my experince with you 😍 hope will help you a little bit.
my email is [email protected]
byw: thanks a lot to luckyPharmD.stu for helping me making decision between ACP and UB. thank you!!!!!!!!

 

[anon89]

ohhh wow

ok I'm definitely not getting into St.John's now haha, that's ok, there's another 4 schools I could get into I think haha

What kind of scholarships did you get for each?

I'm mostly interested in ACP and MCPHS 🙂 but I'd like to know the scholarships for all you know?

 

[anon89]

bumping! 🙂

 

[anon89]

bumping again! 🙂

 

[pharmwannebe2]

hiya! 🙂 I'd love to go into pharmacy but I'm not too sure if I'd be able to make it into the 0-6 program, here are my stats:

stats:
NY (nyc) resident asian female
GPA: 3.3/3.4 UW (out of 4.0) (which is an 89-90)
SATs: 1750 (just took it in june hoping/expecting a 2000)
SAT IIs: none
School doesn't rank
Freshman year: regents lvl classes
Sophmore year: math and bio honors
Junior year (this year): math and chem honors
Senior year: european history AP, Physics AP, and chem AP (i'm taking 2 science APs in the same year, no one really does that at all in my school, actually I'm the first)

Extracurrics
- track in freshman year
- hoping to volunteer in some pharmacy/dentists office this summer
- my artwork has been to a lot of places (local college and mall a few times and some art shows)

do you think i'll be able to get into these programs?

- Albany College of Pharmacy
- Massachusetts College of Pharmacy
- Rutgers University
- St John's University
- University at Rhode Island
- Philadelphia College of Pharmacy

.. and what about scholarships for those schools?

thanks so much! 😀

you will get into philadelphia college of pharmacy. it is really easy to get into. plus a ton of asians go there. but apply early. cause i applied in the middle of december and i was waitlisted. the school however doesn't offer much financial aid. i was disappointed. but then again it could be cause i am out of state. i did get a 7k forr 6 year scholarship from them. so that was pretty sweet.

ps- are those all direct admission schools meaning no pcat and accepted to their school of pharmacy all ready? cause if they all are....do you know if there any other like that. i have been looking for a list of all the direct admission schools in the us.

 

[pharmwannebe2]

95 percent in the top 10% of their class? holy...

yeah well. it just goes to show you that you can go to a crappy high school (like mine.) and just study to get 4th ranked. and then you can have a low sat score (mine was like 1300 hah) and you can get in at usp or butler.

ps- Butler doesn't have a 0-6 year. direct admission. there website says they do but in the mail i recieved they said they make you take the pcats now (at least a score of 55)

 

[pharmer_john]

St. Louis Collge of Pharmacy is a 6 year program as well. Published stats from fall of 2005 for incoming students form HS were I believe 28 ACT (1860?) and 3.8 gpa. I think at summer orientation they said fall the 2006 class was going to be 29 (1920 SAT) ACT and average HS gpa of 3.88. So almost all are top 5% of their HS. Orientation is like a valedictorian convention. If you don't get in the school you want but get waitlisted in one of thest programs don't give up, just keep your options open in case they call you late. There are people who change their plans at the last minute (Not enough aid, accepted to first choice, change mind) and decide not to attend. after all entering a 0-6 program is a big decision. If somebody pulls out they will start going down the waitlist and many on it will have already committed to something else, that is the way many with lower stats get in.

As for scholarships at STLCOP if you have a 30 or better ACT (2000 SAT) you qualify for a scholarship which is almost half tuition, but there are a limited number so they often go to the early admission folks. They have others for lower scores as well that are smaller dollar amounts.

 

[pharmwannebe2]

St. Louis Collge of Pharmacy is a 6 year program as well. Published stats from fall of 2005 for incoming students form HS were I believe 28 ACT (1860?) and 3.8 gpa. I think at summer orientation they said fall the 2006 class was going to be 29 (1920 SAT) ACT and average HS gpa of 3.88. So almost all are top 5% of their HS. Orientation is like a valedictorian convention. If you don't get in the school you want but get waitlisted in one of thest programs don't give up, just keep your options open in case they call you late. There are people who change their plans at the last minute (Not enough aid, accepted to first choice, change mind) and decide not to attend. after all entering a 0-6 program is a big decision. If somebody pulls out they will start going down the waitlist and many on it will have already committed to something else, that is the way many with lower stats get in.

As for scholarships at STLCOP if you have a 30 or better ACT (2000 SAT) you qualify for a scholarship which is almost half tuition, but there are a limited number so they often go to the early admission folks. They have others for lower scores as well that are smaller dollar amounts.

jesus christ. that is ridiculous.....

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

Pharmwannabe2-Butler is a direct admission 0+6 program, they are simply adding more stipulations to their program. What you don't know is that in previous years Butler students were required to take the PCAT for statistical purposes only. I guess each person has their own opinion about what "Direct admissions" means. To me, it means that if you do your pre-pharm at Butler as a declared "pre-pharm" major, you are guarenteed a seat in their pharm school as long as you meet the requirements...GPA etc.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

STLCOP has a bad reputation.

 

[pharmer_john]

STLCOP has a bad reputation.

This is a loaded statement. For what? I would have thought people on this board would have learned not to make uninformed statements like this. It is certainly known to be very rigorous, is that what you consider bad?

 

[pharmwannebe2]

Pharmwannabe2-Butler is a direct admission 0+6 program, they are simply adding more stipulations to their program. What you don't know is that in previous years Butler students were required to take the PCAT for statistical purposes only. I guess each person has their own opinion about what "Direct admissions" means. To me, it means that if you do your pre-pharm at Butler as a declared "pre-pharm" major, you are guarenteed a seat in their pharm school as long as you meet the requirements...GPA etc.

i suck at standarized tests haha. so i was like 55 score.....nevermind..i will score a 23. i plan to fail my NAPLEX (no i will actually study harder than hard for that)

 

[pharmwannebe2]

STLCOP has a bad reputation.

lets just hope you don't face the wrath of people that go there.

 

[ButlerPharm.D.]

I think people are quite aware of STLCOP's reputation. I work with a pharmacist who went there for his first 2 years (pre-pharm-he transferred to Midwestern-CCP) and he's told me that STLCOP isn't a place he would ever recommend. Ask around and find out for yourself what people think of STLCOP.

 

[Aznfarmerboi]

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[Aznfarmerboi]

Anon, it depends on a lot of factors. First, what HS are you from? Some of the programs mentioned love to recruit from certain schools. Second, how does your GPA compare to your class? A 3.3 is meaningless without other numbers to compare at.

For a student like you, take a deep look into where you might want to practice in the future. If you want to practice in NY, I would suggest that you forget most of the out of state schools. There are three reasons for this. 1. New York is one of the few last states out there that requires you to take a test on compounding, in addition to your law and clinical pharmacy to get your license. If you were to go to NJ, they simply might not stress compounding if any at all besides simple pharmaceutics. 2nd, the law for pharmacy in NY is different of that in NJ. Once again for that, it is a lot better if you stay in NYS as a NYS pharmD program moves you toward in getting a NYS license rather than say a NJ license. Lastly, 3rd of all, it is just cheaper for you. NYS is very generous with its scholarships because they are sick of professions moving out of state because of high prices. (TAP). Not to mention, NYS is also one of the few states that are very generous with their healthcare. They make sure that everyone is covered with health insurance. This helps a lot as you will qualify for free insurance (even if you might be covered under your parents).

Also, keep in mind that just because you take 3 aps, that doesnt make you special. In fact, most of the people that are in my class took 3+ ap's. In terms of your standings, I would say that you are just an average student. That means you have an average chance of getting in which in my opinion is pretty good. That means if you apply to Buffalo, Albany, LIU, and St Johns, you should get into at least one of them. =).

hiya! 🙂 I'd love to go into pharmacy but I'm not too sure if I'd be able to make it into the 0-6 program, here are my stats:

stats:
NY (nyc) resident asian female
GPA: 3.3/3.4 UW (out of 4.0) (which is an 89-90)
SATs: 1750 (just took it in june hoping/expecting a 2000)
SAT IIs: none
School doesn't rank
Freshman year: regents lvl classes
Sophmore year: math and bio honors
Junior year (this year): math and chem honors
Senior year: european history AP, Physics AP, and chem AP (i'm taking 2 science APs in the same year, no one really does that at all in my school, actually I'm the first)

Extracurrics
- track in freshman year
- hoping to volunteer in some pharmacy/dentists office this summer
- my artwork has been to a lot of places (local college and mall a few times and some art shows)

do you think i'll be able to get into these programs?

- Albany College of Pharmacy
- Massachusetts College of Pharmacy
- Rutgers University
- St John's University
- University at Rhode Island
- Philadelphia College of Pharmacy

.. and what about scholarships for those schools?

thanks so much! 😀