Chances of Matching from SGU?

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I am an SGU MS2 medical student. Out of curiosity I was just wondering how much being an SGU graduate would hinder getting a good residency. What is my best case scenario? If i get a 250+ on the steps and I am published at the end of 4 years would I have any shot at top residency programs in IM ,such as NY presbyterian or a competitive specialty such as Ortho, or will they automatically throw out my application becuase I'm an IMG.

 

[darkelven29]

The only international students I met at NY Presby Cornell interview were from their program in Qatar. In other top IM programs, I met only non-Carribean international grads (Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Lebanon, Europe)

Why don't you just look at the match list at SGU? That would tell you if anyone got into ortho and any top IM programs.

 

[gutonc]

The only international students I met at NY Presby Cornell interview were from their program in Qatar. In other top IM programs, I met only non-Carribean international grads (Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Lebanon, Europe)

Why don't you just look at the match list at SGU? That would tell you if anyone got into ortho and any top IM programs.

This is so easy to do it's embarrassing. It's even searchable by "Cornell" or "Columbia" or "Presbyterian."

To answer your question, out of nearly 800 SGU grads in the match this year (SRSLY?!?! 800?! WTF?!), exactly one matched IM at Columbia (0 at Cornell unless I'm reading this wrong) and 1 PGY1 match at MSSM (the real one) in surgery. There was also one Ortho match.

So to answer the original question, technically, yes you could match one of those places but in reality, no you don't have a chance. That in no way means you don't have a chance at a good residency and good training, just that you're not going to Columbia or Hopkins or Duke or UCSF, and you may be doing Gas or Gen Surg, not ortho or plastics.

 

[rokshana]

I am an SGU MS2 medical student. Out of curiosity I was just wondering how much being an SGU graduate would hinder getting a good residency. What is my best case scenario? If i get a 250+ on the steps and I am published at the end of 4 years would I have any shot at top residency programs in IM ,such as NY presbyterian or a competitive specialty such as Ortho, or will they automatically throw out my application becuase I'm an IMG.

sorry, but this is not a question you should be asking now, as an MS2...you should have asked this before you looked at off shore schools (including sgu)...is it possible? yeah, anything is possible...but its also possible to win the powerball if you buy a ticket...

 

[jerseytrash]

I am an SGU MS2 medical student. Out of curiosity I was just wondering how much being an SGU graduate would hinder getting a good residency. What is my best case scenario? If i get a 250+ on the steps and I am published at the end of 4 years would I have any shot at top residency programs in IM ,such as NY presbyterian or a competitive specialty such as Ortho, or will they automatically throw out my application becuase I'm an IMG.

If you're at the very very very top of your class there's a slight chance that Columbia or Cornell (either one of the presby residencies) might look at your app. In reality yes many of these top tier places will probably throw it out.

Apply broadly everywhere in the middle tier and with lower tier when you get there. You should do as well as possible on your Step exams (250+ is certainly a start) and get as many honors as possible in your third year grades.

 

[jdh71]

This is so easy to do it's embarrassing. It's even searchable by "Cornell" or "Columbia" or "Presbyterian."

To answer your question, out of nearly 800 SGU grads in the match this year (SRSLY?!?! 800?! WTF?!), exactly one matched IM at Columbia (0 at Cornell unless I'm reading this wrong) and 1 PGY1 match at MSSM (the real one) in surgery. There was also one Ortho match.

So to answer the original question, technically, yes you could match one of those places but in reality, no you don't have a chance. That in no way means you don't have a chance at a good residency and good training, just that you're not going to Columbia or Hopkins or Duke or UCSF, and you may be doing Gas or Gen Surg, not ortho or plastics.

this thread needs a sticky and it should be locked

 

[krps85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

 

[swlabr1980]

Keep in mind that the one match at Columbia possibly had connections. Until a top-notch program shows a clear trend of accepting off-shore students, you should assume these rare matches are outliers.

Also, the off-shore schools like to lump prelim positions into their IM and surgery matches. So the "impressive" surgery match at a place like MSSM could have been a one-year prelim spot, not categorical.

 

[rokshana]

Keep in mind that the one match at Columbia possibly had connections. Until a top-notch program shows a clear trend of accepting off-shore students, you should assume these rare matches are outliers.

Also, the off-shore schools like to lump prelim positions into their IM and surgery matches. So the "impressive" surgery match at a place like MSSM could have been a one-year prelim spot, not categorical.

it is very easy to see that on the sgu site...click over to the 2014 pgy 2 listings and you see the advanced spots and the prelim spots...no one is trying to hide anything.

 

[darkelven29]

This is so easy to do it's embarrassing .

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I was able to get Match results from the past 5 years from my med school office. You should be able to get the same from SGU, if they are not all searchable online.

 

[swlabr1980]

it is very easy to see that on the sgu site...click over to the 2014 pgy 2 listings and you see the advanced spots and the prelim spots...no one is trying to hide anything.

Well, good on them for being less obfuscating than other Caribbean schools.

 

[Chris3000]

I am an SGU MS2 medical student. Out of curiosity I was just wondering how much being an SGU graduate would hinder getting a good residency. What is my best case scenario? If i get a 250+ on the steps and I am published at the end of 4 years would I have any shot at top residency programs in IM ,such as NY presbyterian or a competitive specialty such as Ortho, or will they automatically throw out my application becuase I'm an IMG.

Unless you have absolutely stellar scores, PLUS likely multiple publications in really prestigious journals, the chances are slim to none.

Until interview season comes, you don't realize the stigma that comes with being from SGU. I don't think most of my friends even gotten an interview from those institutions.

Not to say you shouldn't try though! Aim for the stars! Do well on your boards, ace your clinicals. Just understand the reality, and don't be too disappointed if you don't get it.

 

[SGU1212]

Until interview season comes, you don't realize the stigma that comes with being from SGU.

I'll echo that part. I had better board scores than tons of people I knew from US schools and they got much better interviews. I still got some decent interviews at university programs but overall you're definitely on a much lower level.

 

[surge55]

I'll echo that part. I had better board scores than tons of people I knew from US schools and they got much better interviews. I still got some decent interviews at university programs but overall you're definitely on a much lower level.

^ yup. same here. i got a few university spots but pretty much all good to great community spots. the only good university spot I got was at a place I used to work, but even then they admitted they wouldnt rank me high enough. that said I'm happy where I ended up.

 

[Trifling Jester]

I am an SGU MS2 medical student. Out of curiosity I was just wondering how much being an SGU graduate would hinder getting a good residency. What is my best case scenario? If i get a 250+ on the steps and I am published at the end of 4 years would I have any shot at top residency programs in IM ,such as NY presbyterian or a competitive specialty such as Ortho, or will they automatically throw out my application becuase I'm an IMG.

The important thing is not what school you're from. The important thing is whether or not you post on SDN. Everyone who posts on SDN has 99's on the steps and interviews at Duke and Mass Gen. Everyone I've met in real life has 80's and interviews at state U. The moral of the story is to keep posting!!!


The Trifling Jester

 

[DrSnips]

The important thing is not what school you're from. The important thing is whether or not you post on SDN. Everyone who posts on SDN has 99's on the steps and interviews at Duke and Mass Gen. Everyone I've met in real life has 80's and interviews at state U. The moral of the story is to keep posting!!!


The Trifling Jester

A 99 two-digit score is around 60th percentile or better. I assume it meant more back in the day.