Chances with limited research experience

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

Remuneration

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2008
Messages
129
Reaction score
0
Points
0
  1. Pre-Health (Field Undecided)
After spending my first year and a half experimenting with other majors (also changing schools), I focused on Biology, but didn't start strongly considering research until my Junior year. With only 6 months (albeit mostly full-time summer work) of research experience, am I at all competitive for MD/PhD programs (especially submitting my application this late)?

My GPA at my current university is ~3.85 (~4 at my prior schools).
MCAT: 40N (12PS 13VR 15BS)
 
Well, you do have a bit of experience, your GPA is excellent, and your MCAT is OMGWTFBBQ, so I'd say you definitely have a shot, if it weren't October 8th. Given the late date, I'd wait for someone with more experience to comment, but I don't think you're out of the running if you can get everything sent in NOW.
 
You should really get on it! Deadlines are fast approaching! I hope that you've already got your AAMC verified at least.

You look like an amazing candidate. If you get a really strong letter of recommendation out of the summer research you just did, you should be fine. It's not like you've never done anything at all.
 
With only 6 months (albeit mostly full-time summer work) of research experience, am I at all competitive for MD/PhD programs (especially submitting my application this late)?

Honestly, 6 months of research is on the low side. What I would really want to know is exactly what you were involved with during these 6 months - were you a lab tech helping out with other people's projects, or were you in a position to take on responsibility for your own project? If you were involved with designing, carrying out, and presenting data for your own project, that is going to look much better than being the "cryostat dude" or "in situ girl" who never really got much exposure to the actual process of research.

Aside from that, the rest of your application seems solid, but if your research wasn't very involved, you may be better off continuing in research for a year and applying next cycle (sometime before October).
 
Unfortunately the project I was going to be designed was delayed, but I think my work did expose me to most of the key steps of the process. I was involved in some of the background research troubleshooting or expanding two projects. I was tasked with experiments starting with animals and working through all the steps to data collection (injections, collecting survival/disease state data, dissections, tissue processing, sectioning, staining/IHC/IF, informal data presentation). I also worked on a mini-project comparing the utility of various antibodies in marking cell types of interest.

More experience in early-planning stages, formal presentation, etc. would obviously be nice, but my experience was fairly well-balanced.
 
If you are serious about MD-PhD programs, I think you should consider spending an extra year doing research before applying. With your strong GPA and phenomenal MCAT, you have that much more to gain. Research experience is by far the most important criterion by which MD-PhD adcoms evaluate applicants. So, even with your scores, I think you will have difficulty applying with just 6+ months of research, especially if you don't have much experience designing experiments and writing-up/presenting results. MD-PhD programs put huge investments into each of their students; they want students who have shown a long-term commitment and enthusiasm toward research that will likely translate into a successful career in academic medicine.

In just one extra year of research, you can really distinguish yourself by taking ownership of a research project (or part of one) and trying to take it from beginning to end. MD-PhD adcoms love it when you design and perform your own experiments, create or modify experimental techniques, collaborate within and outside of your lab, learn from some failures, present posters at national conferences, write-up your findings formally and, if you are lucky, get published. These are the things that will make your application really stand out and allow you to shine in interviews.

Alternatively, if you want to apply this cycle, you might have much more success applying to MD-only programs (assuming you have good letters and some clinical experience). In fact, with your scores and your research, you might even be able to get into a top-tier school (but you better hurry, as the deadlines are FAST approaching). You can always do research as a MD, and some schools have in-house applications for MD-PhD if you want to apply later. Now, don't let me dissuade you from applying MD-PhD this cycle if you really want to (it's possible I'm grossly underestimating you from your brief above descriptions), but I do think your chances can improve dramatically if you deepen your research experience.
 
Top Bottom