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Aresnebula

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I figured I would make this thread in case anyone else is in the same boat. I am thinking of leaving my current job. However, I am trying to stay in the same state if possible (family reasons). How do I go about my search discreetly as I know podiatry is a small world? Also, I will likely have to put my current employment on my resume, do future employers call them? I don't want anyone tipping my current employer off as I cannot lose this income source until I secure something (funds are a little tight).

On the other hand, I have been contemplating opening up on my own by taking a business loan. Likely, I will start the process of opening up my own and look for jobs at the same time (whichever happens first). If I am in the middle of opening and get a good job offer, I will likely take the job offer and pause on my practice start. If I open, it will likely be in the same county as my current employer (20-30 mile radius). I don't have a noncompete.

TLDR: how can I be discreet whilst applying for jobs without worrying about anyone tipping current employer off? I have never changed jobs before so wondering how to go about it.
 
Aresnebula said:
I figured I would make this thread in case anyone else is in the same boat. I am thinking of leaving my current job. However, I am trying to stay in the same state if possible (family reasons). How do I go about my search discreetly as I know podiatry is a small world? Also, I will likely have to put my current employment on my resume, do future employers call them? I don't want anyone tipping my current employer off as I cannot lose this income source until I secure something (funds are a little tight).

On the other hand, I have been contemplating opening up on my own by taking a business loan. Likely, I will start the process of opening up my own and look for jobs at the same time (whichever happens first). If I am in the middle of opening and get a good job offer, I will likely take the job offer and pause on my practice start. If I open, it will likely be in the same county as my current employer (20-30 mile radius). I don't have a noncompete.

TLDR: how can I be discreet whilst applying for jobs without worrying about anyone tipping current employer off? I have never changed jobs before so wondering how to go about it.
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A bunch of people have open stuff up recently, there's been a treasure trove of resources on here. I assume most on here would say if you thought about it then just do it don't go halfway.
 
Aresnebula said:
TLDR: how can I be discreet whilst applying for jobs without worrying about anyone tipping current employer off? I have never changed jobs before so wondering how to go about it.
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According to instagram/tiktok, it's a standard practice to lie about sick days/doctor appts to do this sort of thing. "I went to my PCP" "They say I need an MRI" "They found something on my kidney, I need to be out for the day to do a biopsy." As long as it's not consecutive days in a row, they won't ask for doctor notes.

Of course, when members of my staff start doing this, I know to plan on a position opening up...
 
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Dang. Not to put all your business out there, but I know you're like me, and we just started these jobs. And we both don't like them whatsoever.

I also very much want to leave my current practice (and honestly just quit podiatry altogether because this whole field sucks), but anyways, I would probably not recommend leaving this soon after starting. It will be an absolute massive, massive red flag on your CV if you try to get another employed position.

but, if you truly hate it, then screw it. You only have one life to live.

Every single day I come to work, I imagine myself throwing a huge fit, cussing everyone out, and walking out. It would be glorious, and I want to do it basically every second I'm here. One of these days, they're gonna do or say something, and I'm going to lose it. I can feel it brewing lol.
 
It makes me sad how your arrangement is breaking you. I had literally 2 patients present with severe vascular disease needing urgent evaluation and I still thought it was a pretty great day. Good post-ops. Satisfied patients. New staff. I've even got stupid stuff going on with my roof and a f^&*(ing brand new ...to me.... used as hell... Midmark chair dying, but you take it all in stride.
 
footpainhealer said:
Every single day I come to work, I imagine myself throwing a huge fit, cussing everyone out, and walking out. It would be glorious, and I want to do it basically every second I'm here. One of these days, they're gonna do or say something, and I'm going to lose it. I can feel it brewing lol.
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100%, that is me everyday except I am quite hot headed sometimes lol
 
I see where OP is coming from. This is a good topic honestly. How the hell do you apply for a job when this profession is so small that everyone knows everyone through some sort of mutual friend.

All pods in every metro generally know each other. If someone leaves to go to another group the future employer probably knows ball already. Might be friends with your boss. It’s messy work.

You just have to hope they are being professional about it and adhering to good employment privacy expectations but given this is podiatry it’s a heavy doubt
 
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Adam Smasher said:
According to instagram/tiktok, it's a standard practice to lie about sick days/doctor appts to do this sort of thing. "I went to my PCP" "They say I need an MRI" "They found something on my kidney, I need to be out for the day to do a biopsy." As long as it's not consecutive days in a row, they won't ask for doctor notes.

Of course, when members of my staff start doing this, I know to plan on a position opening up...
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Facts. I’ve noticed this with MAs, and they never give two weeks notice.
 
footpainhealer said:
Dang. Not to put all your business out there, but I know you're like me, and we just started these jobs. And we both don't like them whatsoever.

I also very much want to leave my current practice (and honestly just quit podiatry altogether because this whole field sucks), but anyways, I would probably not recommend leaving this soon after starting. It will be an absolute massive, massive red flag on your CV if you try to get another employed position.

but, if you truly hate it, then screw it. You only have one life to live.

Every single day I come to work, I imagine myself throwing a huge fit, cussing everyone out, and walking out. It would be glorious, and I want to do it basically every second I'm here. One of these days, they're gonna do or say something, and I'm going to lose it. I can feel it brewing lol.
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Do I need to setup a suicide hotline for you guys or something?
 
footpainhealer said:
Every single day I come to work, I imagine myself throwing a huge fit, cussing everyone out, and walking out. It would be glorious, and I want to do it basically every second I'm here. One of these days, they're gonna do or say something, and I'm going to lose it. I can feel it brewing lol.
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time to quit if everyday is like this.
 
I live in a state of 15+ million. I moved jobs 1 hour apart. Employer didn’t find out until contract was signed. Be upfront with new employer. Don’t trash current job. Just make it seem like location is the only reason you are moving and you will be ok. You never know who is buddy buddy with who.
 
BeaverBlade said:
time to quit if everyday is like this.
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But realistically, it's not much better anywhere else in the area I am. Know several people in my state and in the adjacent states, and we're all basically doing the same crap. Clinic 8 to 5, finishing up notes after hours, rounding and doing cases till 6pm-11pm. 30+ pt/day. It's all the same.

I will say, I looked up a few classmates from out of state that I don't really talk to, and there are 2 or 3 that changed Their jobs after just the first year. I thought most contracts are like 2 to 3 years. So either they dissolve the contract earlier or have to pay a boatload of money to release it, but it seems like very few people I personally know in podiatry are genuinely happy with it.

Even the people that got hospital gigs. They absolutely hate it and are looking to leave as soon as possible because they don't like the area. Too rural for them (That's all they could find). And the funny thing is, they spent so much time emailing and calling dozens and hundreds of places to get these jobs, and now want to leave.
 
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You always have the right to leave. Could the contract have problematic terms, repayment of bonus, force you to pay tail, etc - yes. Could they try to sue you for leaving early - maybe, yes. But lawsuits are expensive, slow, and annoying to pursue. I invite you to consider the following. I had a contract that specifically said my shares were worth a certain amount of money from my partnership buy-in. When I left my partner refused to pay anything. We hired attorneys. Mine was like $400 something an hour. In the end - I settled for less and left rather than pursuing a multi-year lawsuit where the legal costs would have exceeded the value of what I lost. My wife just had a family event that required using a lawyer to clean up an issue. They charged $850 an hour. The work seemed extremely trivial, but the statements start arriving and suddenly you are at $10,000. My current experiences have totally changed my perception of the legal system and the way we talk about lawyers on this forum. You think - I have a contract, but the only way to enforce it is through the use of expensive mercenaries.
 
footpainhealer said:
Even the people that got hospital gigs. They absolutely hate it and are looking to leave as soon as possible because they don't like the area. Too rural for them (That's all they could find). And the funny thing is, they spent so much time emailing and calling dozens and hundreds of places to get these jobs, and now want to leave.
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I think the hospital job stans on here underplay how stressful having hospital admin up your ass can be. My residency director always seemed like he was about to blow an aneurysm. A corporate job is still a corporate job.
 
Boba Foot said:
I think the hospital job stans on here underplay how stressful having hospital admin up your ass can be.
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Maybe. I have none of that. I’ve never been told “no” by admin when asking for certain equipment, devices, clinic schedule, patient caps, etc. But I’m at a critical access facility where we get cost + reimbursement and there is no reason to limit anything I use since we aren’t getting bundled reimbursements.

Obviously the for-profit systems (lifepoint, HCA, etc.) are going to have more of that corporate pressure, shenanigans. Just may not have many of us here employed by those type of organizations.
 
dtrack22 said:
Maybe. I have none of that. I’ve never been told “no” by admin when asking for certain equipment, devices, clinic schedule, patient caps, etc. But I’m at a critical access facility where we get cost + reimbursement and there is no reason to limit anything I use since we aren’t getting bundled reimbursements.

Obviously the for-profit systems (lifepoint, HCA, etc.) are going to have more of that corporate pressure, shenanigans. Just may not have many of us here employed by those type of organizations.
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I get everything I ask for, just get bullied to give up my wound care patients by the contracted wound company in our hospital. They refer me toenails though. Thank god they have access to advanced woundcare with NPs after I flap, graft and surgically offload them lol. Pushing to hire a wound care pod and taking over wound center next few years though.

To be fair, I make more seeing these every 2-3 weeks so I have more space for surgical consults.
 
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