Charged with soliciting a prostitute, game over?

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Lizzy probably makes the best point in this whole discussion. A practicing physician or med student most likely would not be dismissed from the program if they were pinched for the same crime.

So, is it an obstacle that can not be overcome? Probably not. It seems that you're moving in the right direction, taking the blame, seeking help to correct underlying issues that led you down that path initially, etc.

If the rest of your app is stellar, and I mean stellar, you probably have a shot. If you have this, plus an average GPA, average MCAT, average, ECs, then you are most likely sunk. There has to be something that counter balances this.

As far as the nature of the crime...prostitution is definitely not a victimless crime (I am not saying the OP stated it was, but some here seem to have that attitude) but in the scheme of things, there are pre-meds who received DWIs and got into med school...and that IMHO is a much more serious lapse in judgement and demonstrates a pretty substantial character flaw.

Again, on any given day, you may get AdComms who are more forgiving or more condemning on this issue. Overcoming this will take a lot of work on the academic and non-cog side, and some serendipity on the AdComm side...
 
WTEngel said:
Lizzy probably makes the best point in this whole discussion. A practicing physician or med student most likely would not be dismissed from the program if they were pinched for the same crime.

So, is it an obstacle that can not be overcome? Probably not. It seems that you're moving in the right direction, taking the blame, seeking help to correct underlying issues that led you down that path initially, etc.

If the rest of your app is stellar, and I mean stellar, you probably have a shot. If you have this, plus an average GPA, average MCAT, average, ECs, then you are most likely sunk. There has to be something that counter balances this.

As far as the nature of the crime...prostitution is definitely not a victimless crime (I am not saying the OP stated it was, but some here seem to have that attitude) but in the scheme of things, there are pre-meds who received DWIs and got into med school...and that IMHO is a much more serious lapse in judgement and demonstrates a pretty substantial character flaw.

Again, on any given day, you may get AdComms who are more forgiving or more condemning on this issue. Overcoming this will take a lot of work on the academic and non-cog side, and some serendipity on the AdComm side...
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It's good that you didn't kill your prostitute like that one guy from Boston University.
 
This makes me rethink going to brothels so often. 🙁
 
ineed2stpsmurfn said:
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!:laugh::laugh::corny:🤣



That is all.




p.s. I can't believe people fed the troll who has all of his posts on this thread basically... come on people, how is this thread NOT a giant load of horse $h!..... and even if it WERE true somehow(though it's not).. in some incredibly hilarious way, he would have actually solicited a prostitute LOL.... he screwed up, he can fix it on his own(with a 3.8 gpa you should be smart enough to know how.. but then again I'd have thought you would be smart enough to not in the first place).
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lol a 3.8 gpa doesn't mean he can be smart enough to figure out a lot of stuff 😛:
 
flatearth22 said:
Men paying for sex is actually the norm (with very few exceptions). It's just that the payment is always indirect for it to be socially acceptable - in the form of meals, cover charges, drinks, gifts, etc. Not to mention in marriage where the woman basically uses the man's income to buy inane things in exchange for sex a few times a week...if he's lucky.
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Sounds like those girls know how to play guys 😛

It's not that rare to not have to indirectly pay for sex 🙂
 
Next time you are going to get a prostitute go to a place where it is legal... You may not have to go as far as you think 😉
 
Either write one hell of a paper, go to the Caribbean, or hope that you can get it expunged.
 
Unless your app is otherwise stellar, it's a dead end.

Minor drug offenses regularly tank medical careers, and getting busted for soliciting a prostitute in college will stand out even more than a more run of the mill marijuana bust.

Why would anyone pay for sex in college? Too many people are giving it away for free for that to make any sense.
 
WTEngel said:
Lizzy probably makes the best point in this whole discussion. A practicing physician or med student most likely would not be dismissed from the program if they were pinched for the same crime.
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Congrats! You're a man now!
 
Gixxer650Rider said:
Funny you bring that up. Don't some pro-prostitution women say that it's empowering?
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That's definitely the argument I would make. "Look I wasn't soliciting a prostitute, I was just trying to empower an at risk woman!!!! And give her money!"
 
Hey man, Joel Goodsen did it and he got into Princeton.

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OP, this whole situation sounds weird. I've never been a relationship before, but how would someone leaving you result in trying to hook up with a prostitute? Can someone fill me in on this?
 
KnuxNole said:
Sounds like those girls know how to play guys 😛

It's not that rare to not have to indirectly pay for sex 🙂
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Define "pay".... because listening to their crap can be pretty costing 😉
 
LizzyM said:
Here's how I see this and other issues that must be reported on the AMCAS: would a medical school dismiss or suspend a current medical student who was caught doing the same? would a licensing board pull or suspend the license of a physician who was caught doing the same?

If you think that someone would be kicked out of medical school or (temporarily or permanently) lose a medical license over this behavior, then it is likely to be "game over" for a medical school applicant. If you could see a school or licensing board giving a med student/physician a pass for said behavior, then you can hope that some medical schools will be similarly inclined in considering your application for admission.
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👍 I hope he will listen to you Lizzy. When I worked for a med school admissions office, this is exactly how they evaluated criminal background reports.

So glad we have you here to straighten out neurotic/paranoid premeds. 😀
 
tide11189 said:
Problem is the same for you as it is for people with academic misconduct. There are plenty of applicants that didn't solicit sex with a prostitute that they could easily pick over you. Why take you when there are most likely 3000 others that have a squeaky clean record.


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Honestly, there aren't that many applicants with a 3.8 from a top school. Most of my class at a mid tier MD school didn't have those stats, and when you start looking at some of the brand new DO school, I think he'd be several standard deviations above the average. Toss an above average MCAT on that and I don't think this is a career ender.
The Caribbean is a possibility. I'd rather not take that road, but if it's my
only shot, I might do it. Like they say, it's some peoples' last chance! I'll
see how quickly, if possible, I can get this expunged.
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Student loans can't be discharged and most Caribbean students don't become doctors. Find another career before you take this option.
 
Gixxer650Rider said:
Before you are quick to judge me, I would like to tell my story. I recently had a very nasty breakup, and went through pretty severe depression right after. At my lowest point, I felt so alone that I needed to be with someone. I looked at the classifieds, and found someone. I went to a nearby hotel, only to realize that I walked directly into a police sting operation. I have never done this before, and paid the ultimate price. 🙁

With video tape evidence, I stood no chance. I was found guilty of soliciting a prostitute, which is a misdemeanor crime. Do you think any ADCOM would be able to look past this? I know that a lot of people see this as a victimless crime. I can explain what happened to me during that time. I was wondering if there is still hope in gaining admission to medical school with this on my record. I will try to get it expunged, but I have no idea how long this will take to do. I heard it can take years.

Since then, I have seen a psychiatrist, and have been treated for depression. I have never been convicted of any other crimes. I currently have a high cGPA of around a 3.8 and sGPA of around a 3.6. I attend a top 50 university. I have been partaking in extraordinary ECs too. Do I stand a chance with this on my record, or should I wait it out until I can have it expunged? And please don't judge, most people have no idea how hard breakups and depression can get.
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That might be entrapment.
 
it aint nobody's business if you're paying for sex or not... the people convicting you most definitely do.... but we live in a pretty absurd world and there are plenty of applicants in the pool that don't pay for it, or at least that don't get caught doing it.
 
Gixxer650Rider said:
Before you are quick to judge me, I would like to tell my story. I recently had a very nasty breakup, and went through pretty severe depression right after. At my lowest point, I felt so alone that I needed to be with someone. I looked at the classifieds, and found someone. I went to a nearby hotel, only to realize that I walked directly into a police sting operation. I have never done this before, and paid the ultimate price. 🙁

With video tape evidence, I stood no chance. I was found guilty of soliciting a prostitute, which is a misdemeanor crime. Do you think any ADCOM would be able to look past this? I know that a lot of people see this as a victimless crime. I can explain what happened to me during that time. I was wondering if there is still hope in gaining admission to medical school with this on my record. I will try to get it expunged, but I have no idea how long this will take to do. I heard it can take years.

Since then, I have seen a psychiatrist, and have been treated for depression. I have never been convicted of any other crimes. I currently have a high cGPA of around a 3.8 and sGPA of around a 3.6. I attend a top 50 university. I have been partaking in extraordinary ECs too. Do I stand a chance with this on my record, or should I wait it out until I can have it expunged? And please don't judge, most people have no idea how hard breakups and depression can get.
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Getting charged with a misdemeanor is hardly "paying the ultimate price."
 
Ironmandoc said:
It is 100% NOT entrapment. You couldn't be more incorrect.
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I'd say more like 100000000000%

Entrapment is a cop randomly walking up to you on the street and asking if you wanna go back to their place, having sex with you and telling you that you owe her $100 bucks after you're done and threatening to call her pimp if you don't pay up and then arresting you when you hand over the cash so you don't get dumped in an alley. Posting a personals ad and waiting for idiots to reply to it is good police work.
 
Ironmandoc said:
It is 100% NOT entrapment. You couldn't be more incorrect.
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Do you honestly think you're the first to think this?
Edit: this was directed to the other guy.... my phone failed and apparently now I'm being sarcastic to ironmandoc 😕 sorry
 
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Well I figured out my game plan. It looks like I will put medical school on the back burner for now, and will try to get this expunged. I do not want to apply if there is a possibility that I can get this off my record. It's a detour, but I will get there. Even if I can't get it expunged, I will try to redeem myself as a non-trad. Thanks for the advice everyone! 🙂
 
NightGod said:
I'd say more like 100000000000%

Entrapment is a cop randomly walking up to you on the street and asking if you wanna go back to their place, having sex with you and telling you that you owe her $100 bucks after you're done and threatening to call her pimp if you don't pay up and then arresting you when you hand over the cash so you don't get dumped in an alley. Posting a personals ad and waiting for idiots to reply to it is good police work.
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Yes, let's supply the very crimes that we enforce and then call it police work.
 
chemsmith said:
Yes, let's supply the very crimes that we enforce and then call it police work.
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?

cops arent "supplying" any crimes. they just leave a piece of cheese on the mouse trap and let all the rats do the work themselves. its perfectly legit way of fighting crime. same strategy is used in bait cars; only car thieves get in and get caught, other law-biding citizens just chuckle at the apparent stupidity of the driver (key in ignition, door unlocked etc) and walk away
 
Gixxer650Rider said:
Well I figured out my game plan. It looks like I will put medical school on the back burner for now, and will try to get this expunged. I do not want to apply if there is a possibility that I can get this off my record. It's a detour, but I will get there. Even if I can't get it expunged, I will try to redeem myself as a non-trad. Thanks for the advice everyone! 🙂
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I'm pretty sure you will still have to disclose it to medical schools even if it is expunged. There's a question that asks "click yes if you've ever been convicted of a misdemenour or felony even if it's been expunged" or something like that.
 
chemsmith said:
Yes, let's supply the very crimes that we enforce and then call it police work.
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Supplying the crimes would be a dirty cop selling confiscated drugs for months and then deciding to bust a regular customer because they need to pad their stats. Sting operations are, as gatorade848 said, leaving cheese in a trap.
 
alerk323 said:
I'm pretty sure you will still have to disclose it to medical schools even if it is expunged. There's a question that asks "click yes if you've ever been convicted of a misdemenour or felony even if it's been expunged" or something like that.
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Depends on where you live, as well. There are some states that are specifically excluded from this requirement.
 
Never understand why prostitution is even a crime. Gold diggers are essentially prostitutes. Never see them getting arrested. I guess selling sex under the pretense of love makes it ok.
 
all you can do now is try to spin it and show it as part of your "unique personality." The best course of action would be to solicit your female interviewers
 
nysegop said:
Lol, just so everyone knows, "soliciting a prostitute" is the fancy legal term for "pimping". :laugh:
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btwn this and your earlier threads trying to rank schools on certain percentages, you have solidified that you are a complete *****.
 
Rumalum said:
all you can do now is try to spin it and show it as part of your "unique personality." The best course of action would be to solicit your female interviewers
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what about the male ones? don't be sexist
 
OP: you can either become a celibate priest for a few years to show that you have learned the errors of your ways and the consequences of *gasp* premarital relations OR

you can get it expunged and off your record if its your first offense. at least in my situation, i got my misdemeanor dismissed and expunged. didn't have to report it on amcas or in secondaries. didn't come up on the background check either. however, mine wasn't sexual in nature and im from TN so it might be a different ballgame for you depending on where you live. PM me if you want to discuss this further and solicit (sorry couldnt resist) advice from someone whos kinda gone through this before. best of luck to you
 
Neurosis said:
OP, this whole situation sounds weird. I've never been a relationship before, but how would someone leaving you result in trying to hook up with a prostitute? Can someone fill me in on this?
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are you serious?
 
FattySlug said:
Never understand why prostitution is even a crime. Gold diggers are essentially prostitutes. Never see them getting arrested. I guess selling sex under the pretense of love makes it ok.
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Same reason weed is illegal: 'cuz the gov can't tax dat sht, bro. so they jelly. n when dey jelly...somebody be goin to jail!

/thug conspirator hybrid
 
For those of you who don't know what the hell entrapment is, it is when law enforcement does something to get someone to commit a crime that they would not have otherwise committed had the police not "set it up". The OP would have solicited a prostitute whether or not the police did what they did. A typical "sting" is not entrapment because you are already choosing to engage in a crime and the cops just happen to be there. The same applies to DUI checks...they are not entrapment because you were already committing the crime.

Rule of thumb: don't hire prostitutes
 
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