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AI Bot ChatGPT Passes US Medical Licensing Exams
When queried, ChatGPT says it's no substitute for "the rigorous training and education required to become a licensed physician."
Thoughts?
Yes but say in the future that AI increases productivity such that 1 radiologist can do the job of 5, I’m guessing it would lead to massive pay cuts. In my opinion, all med students, residents, physicians should be investing in AI companies related to health care as a back up plan. This would not be restricted to medicine however and would likely lead to massive deflation due to declining wages across the boardI mean, I could certainly pass the boards with Google and the processing speed of a computer.
Passing a board exam and being and working as a physician are two different things.
The main thing is I wouldn't sleep on how valuable a tool AI may be for many physicians in the future, like the internet/EMR/etc it's going to be something that people will be "left behind" if they dont keep up. Would bet my next loan disbursement CME on AI integration in your practice will be available in the next 3 years if it isn't already.
In the future we'll probably need 5x as many radiologists anyways. Also, I imagine in this scenario the AI company would have to take the brunt of any legal actions so they are certainly going to want a human being check each scan.Yes but say in the future that AI increases productivity such that 1 radiologist can do the job of 5, I’m guessing it would lead to massive pay cuts. In my opinion, all med students, residents, physicians should be investing in AI companies related to health care as a back up plan
That's the thing, AI can certainly help reduce a lot of the administrative scut. The folks who should be worried are scribes and the like.This will drastically speed up note writing. Won't even need to think about doing MDM
There is at least one scribe ai tool on the market.That's the thing, AI can certainly help reduce a lot of the administrative scut. The folks who should be worried are scribes and the like.
It's honestly things like that that has me back to being interested in specialties I was iffy on because "oof the admin work" or "oof the note writing" but have liked the actual medicine ofThere is at least one scribe ai tool on the market.
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AI Bot ChatGPT Passes US Medical Licensing Exams
When queried, ChatGPT says it's no substitute for "the rigorous training and education required to become a licensed physician."www.medscape.com
Thoughts?
How are you using it in your practice now? Like giving it key points and it writes a history for you or something like that?I’m a big ChatGPT fan and actually use it quite a bit now in my practice. It’s not yet at the point where it can do notes for me but will surely get there.
I think this highlights the fundamental issue of what practicing medicine actually is. It isn’t passing a board exam - that’s basically a knowledge test and assessing minimum competency. But having knowledge is not really what medicine is all about.
For me, what I do that nobody and no bot can yet do is build a rapport with a patient, elicit a story, integrate that with exam and other data and synthesize that into a diagnosis or differential, and then engage the patient to aid them in making the right informed decisions for the next step in their care.
I’m sure a bot can read a note and make a good differential. It will probably be able to mimic much of the history as well. But it’s that interaction with another human combined with high level synthesis that AI will struggle with for some time. Making a diagnosis is ridiculously easy 99% of the time; convincing a patient to trust you to perform a surgery on them or their loved one is much harder. And thats where the rubber hits road - it’s the management after diagnosis has been made that really counts.
I’m fond of saying that AI will replace doctors right AFTER it replaces patients.
For now, ChatGPT is saving me a ton of time and energy and I look forward to when it helps make tedious documentation a thing of the past. Where it listens to my encounter and then documents the whole thing and all I have to do is tweak the A&P/MDM. The first company that develops that along with maximizing coding for each visit will corner the market.
Patient education materials have been especially good. Revising and refining post op instructions and info as well.How are you using it in your practice now? Like giving it key points and it writes a history for you or something like that?
Are there any potential HIPAA issues with that?I’ve even had it read some of the longer patient messages and summarize it for me. I just copy/ paste and ask for a summary.
Potentially if there’s any PHI, but so far hasn’t been. Most of them are first person narrative format so they don’t usually retype their name or other identifying info.Are there any potential HIPAA issues with that?
Thats the thing with this software; technically, selling ChatGPT as a licensed software for healthcare companies to make it HIPAA compliant is going to be quite hard since the AI uses the entire internet's data, a recipe for lawsuits from the original data owners.Are there any potential HIPAA issues with that?
Yeah I’ve run into this when playing with it. It’s odd how sometimes it picks really good references and other times hallucinates nonexistent ones. I’ve noticed better refs when having it write humanities papers; the medical refs were completely fabricated.You have to be really careful with ChatGPT. As @futureapppsy2 informed me. It completely makes up believable sounding references, It’s language based AI, not so much a knowledge center.
ChatGPT produces made-up nonexistent references | Hacker News
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