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Hi everyone,

Apologies in advance for these questions, I just wanted to gain a better understanding of the choose your medical school tool. I know that starting May 1 schools that you are accepted or WL at can see a “detailed” report. From what I understand, schools you are waitlisted or accepted to can see specific information about each of their applicants (whereas before May 1 they could only see aggregate totals).

My question is say I PTE at School A on April 30 and I’m on WL at schools B, C, D and E.

1) I know schools B, C, D and E all can see that I’ve PTE to some school (not knowing which one it is), but can they see how many WL I’m on as well?

2) If schools B, C, D and E can see how many WL I’m on, could they see which schools specifically I’ve been WL at?

3) If the answer to either questions 1 or 2 is yes, wouldn’t it be in my benefit to release some of my WL spots so that School B for example wouldn’t think it’s competing with so many other schools for a specific applicant? Just thinking about this from their perspective and increasing their yield.
 

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They can't see what schools you are WL'd at. Schools B, C, D, and E can see you have PTE'd or CTE'd. None of them can see you are WL'd anywhere.
 
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Hi everyone,

Apologies in advance for these questions, I just wanted to gain a better understanding of the choose your medical school tool. I know that starting May 1 schools that you are accepted or WL at can see a “detailed” report. From what I understand, schools you are waitlisted or accepted to can see specific information about each of their applicants (whereas before May 1 they could only see aggregate totals).

My question is say I PTE at School A on April 30 and I’m on WL at schools B, C, D and E.

1) I know schools B, C, D and E all can see that I’ve PTE to some school (not knowing which one it is), but can they see how many WL I’m on as well?

2) If schools B, C, D and E can see how many WL I’m on, could they see which schools specifically I’ve been WL at?

3) If the answer to either questions 1 or 2 is yes, wouldn’t it be in my benefit to release some of my WL spots so that School B for example wouldn’t think it’s competing with so many other schools for a specific applicant? Just thinking about this from their perspective and increasing their yield.
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They can't see what schools you are WL'd at. Schools B, C, D, and E can see you have PTE'd or CTE'd. None of them can see you are WL'd anywhere.
1. No.
2. N/A
3. N/A

thank you for the response! My last question is that I’m getting different feedback from schools on today’s deadline. i know you have to narrow your selection to one school today (keeping as many WL as you’d like), but do you have to specifically PTE to that school?

My thinking here is that not selecting PTE increases your odds for a WL school but not sure. Any advice would be appreciated!
 

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thank you for the response! My last question is that I’m getting different feedback from schools on today’s deadline. i know you have to narrow your selection to one school today (keeping as many WL as you’d like), but do you have to specifically PTE to that school?

My thinking here is that not selecting PTE increases your odds for a WL school but not sure. Any advice would be appreciated!
It is advisable to PTE to one school today. It should have little effect on WL chances.
 
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thank you for the response! My last question is that I’m getting different feedback from schools on today’s deadline. i know you have to narrow your selection to one school today (keeping as many WL as you’d like), but do you have to specifically PTE to that school?

My thinking here is that not selecting PTE increases your odds for a WL school but not sure. Any advice would be appreciated!
Honestly don't try to game the system to get off the WL somewhere else like this. Sending letters and showing interest is good, but don't risk losing your only acceptance
 
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Honestly don't try to game the system to get off the WL somewhere else like this. Sending letters and showing interest is good, but don't risk losing your only acceptance
Yeah the unfortunately reality is that there is no waitlist game. You have probably already been scored/ranked ant then are just going down in order. If its a no - ranking school you have already been fully evaluated by the committee. The reality is your name is either gonna get called or it isnt. Your chances to influence were back when you submitted primary, secondary, and interviewed.
 
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Does everybody understand that these reports are done for purposes of schools planning enrollment and just how deep they may have to go into a waitlist? Acceptance reports in the past were rarely consulted for purposes of somehow evaluating an alternates likelihood of accepting. You know how they check the likelihood of that? they call the alternate and ask. This is why often before you get a formal acceptance you will get an informal call.

This is a late stage symptom of

PREMED : Psychotic Reactionary Event Manifestation Exclusionary Disorder

A disorder that is a psychotic reaction to the events around applying to medical schools that manifests itself in the exclusion of rational thought. Seemingly highly intelligent, high achieving students are most susceptible to this disorder. Loss of major rational thought and reactions to unsubstantiated beliefs, rumors, innuendos, and other irrational and illogical cognitive processes. A form of collective behavior.

This is the Alternate Hope Off List Event (AHOLE). Affecting a small subset of PREMED suffers, these late stage symptoms are remarkably similar to unrequited affection, including sending letters of intent, obsessively looking for email, phone calls or other communications in reply, constant and repetitious statement of how much they want the new school over the school they already have an acceptance to. Forunately, these AHOLE's only suffer for a few months at best as by summer, it will disappear, either through notice by new school or moving on to existing school
 
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Does everybody understand that these reports are done for purposes of schools planning enrollment and just how deep they may have to go into a waitlist? Acceptance reports in the past were rarely consulted for purposes of somehow evaluating an alternates likelihood of accepting. You know how they check the likelihood of that? they call the alternate and ask. This is why often before you get a formal acceptance you will get an informal call.

This is a late stage symptom of

PREMED : Psychotic Reactionary Event Manifestation Exclusionary Disorder

A disorder that is a psychotic reaction to the events around applying to medical schools that manifests itself in the exclusion of rational thought. Seemingly highly intelligent, high achieving students are most susceptible to this disorder. Loss of major rational thought and reactions to unsubstantiated beliefs, rumors, innuendos, and other irrational and illogical cognitive processes. A form of collective behavior.

This is the Alternate Hope Off List Event (AHOLE). Affecting a small subset of PREMED suffers, these late stage symptoms are remarkably similar to unrequited affection, including sending letters of intent, obsessively looking for email, phone calls or other communications in reply, constant and repetitious statement of how much they want the new school over the school they already have an acceptance to. Forunately, these AHOLE's only suffer for a few months at best as by summer, it will disappear, either through notice by new school or moving on to existing school
Gonnif- you give very helpful information to posters on this site, so I am confused why so many of your posts routinely mock or deride students seeking help. It's not hard to punch down at anxious, uninformed pre-meds; and it probably turns many away from these forums while contributing to its negative reputation.

Inconsequential in the grand scheme, but perplexing how you simultaneously offer help while seeming to ridicule those who receive it from you.
 
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Gonnif- you give very helpful information to posters on this site, so I am confused why so many of your posts routinely mock or deride students seeking help. It's not hard to punch down at anxious, uninformed pre-meds; and it probably turns many away from these forums while contributing to its negative reputation.

Inconsequential in the grand scheme, but perplexing how you simultaneously offer help while seeming to ridicule those who receive it from you.

Sometimes being shown the satire of your ways can get you out of the mindset. From the moment that any student thinks about becoming a doctor, they succumbing to OCD, neurotic world of being a premed, becoming its own syndrome if you will. I am always amazed how the supposed best and the brightest, the premeds, overthink everything to the point of paranoia thru this whole process, even to the very end. Here we have students who have an acceptance but still obsessively think and rethink how what they can do with the PTE can somehow improve their chances at a WL, all the while the majority of applicants didnt get ANY seat. Perhaps if they just put their supposed better intellect to work, follow the simple PTE guidelines, not go down this OCD path of "what if's", and not forget that in a few months it all wont matter because you are going to be a doctor someplace, and relax. Perhaps if they used their rational and logical minds to keep a ranked list of schools all thru the cycle, they wouldnt be in the quandary that so many have right before PTE day.

Despite the people think, the world of decision making is indeed black and white, no shades of gray here. No matter how many details, facts, observations, about different schools you may consider, it comes down to a yes or no. Thats it. Most acceptees, indeed most applicants, have no idea how to rate, interpret, value, weigh, most of these factors. And neither do adcoms when it gets down to which school to choose, which is better, how will 150 different programs use the acceptance reports, etc. Why do people drive themselves crazy.

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