Choosing a specialized master's program

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Hey guys! I just need a little advice as I am receiving a lot of conflicting counsel at the moment.

I am a first gen student about to graduate with a BS in Biomedical Sciences, but my science GPA and DAT could use a little work. I plan to retake the DAT in late May/early June and attend a one year specialized master's program this coming year to help build up my application. I applied to 5 different masters programs, all with the intent to also apply to dental school this summer so that I could hopefully matriculate next fall. Each of the masters programs that I applied to have a dental school on the same campus/attached and almost all of them offer some form of preferred admittance/guaranteed interview. I am weighing the pros and cons of each school and I was hoping to get another outside opinion on the matter.

1. Colorado- I was awarded an alternate seat for their MHA program, but considering how few people that they admit, I don't expect this to go anywhere. This was the only program that offered a reserved seat in the dental school following completion of one year of their masters program and meeting their performance standards in said program. I wanted to mention it, but I am no putting much weight into this choice considering the circumstances.

2. Rutgers- I was accepted into their Biomedical Sciences Masters (Dental Scholars track). It's a 30 credit hours (1 year) program and they offer a guaranteed interview if you have above a 3.7 GPA in the first 20 hours of the program and a minimum 20 TS and AA on your DAT. Obviously, I think Rutgers is a great school, but I honestly don't know much beyond that. I am not familiar with their program or New Jersey in general, but I don't want that to dissuade me from what could be a really good opportunity. You get to take classes in the dental school alongside dental students and conduct research in the dental school. On the downside, I am out of state so tuition would roughly be ~$41,000 and I think the cost of living would be relatively high.

3. Tufts- MBS (dental track). I am waiting on a decision from Tufts, but I wanted to include it here regardless for review purposes. This program has pretty stellar reviews from past students and their matriculation rate into dental school is through the roof. You get a guaranteed interview with their dental school so long as you have above a 3.2 GPA in the fall semester of your masters. It is specialized to dentistry with classes offered pertaining to oral biology and other related concepts. Tufts is another school with a fantastic reputation, but not so great cost of attendance. Once again, I am not from New England so I am not super familiar with Boston, but I know cost of living is high and their tuition is ~$65,000 (Dental school tuition is really high as well).

4. Roseman- I was accepted into their Masters of Biomedical Sciences. I had a really great interview with them and I felt like they were personally invested in my success as a student. Their program curriculum is a little vague, so I can't speak on that necessarily. It isn't exactly specific to dental, but they seem to focus a lot on their predental students and offer priority consideration to their dental school with above a 3.0 in the last 30 hours of science courses and above a 17 in all of your DAT subsections. In addition, it is a three year program so I would be done in less time than the others. Tuition is around ~$32,000 and the cost of living is lower compared to most other locations I am considering. Their dental school is pretty expensive as well, I couldn't find an exact cost for their 3 year program but current students are estimating around $350,000 or so.

5. UAB- I got into their Masters of Biomedical and Health Sciences, which is a pretty intensive 11 month program for pre-health students. It is not specific to dental at all and encompasses students aiming to become a variety of professional occupations (PA, DPT, MD, etc.). This is my in-state school, meaning that it is the cheapest tuition of all of my options ($16,000), but pretty on par with Roseman for cost of living. My main problem with UAB is that during my interview they advised me to wait until after I finished their masters to apply to dental school instead of applying this cycle. It also starts in May, meaning that I would have to move to Birmingham and attempt to take the DAT in a tiny window between graduating from undergrad and starting the masters. Most dentists that I know graduated from this program and they are adamant that I should attend here based on reputation and cost, but I worry about having to possibly take another gap year which I would like to avoid if possible. My family is really pushing for me to attend here as well just based on proximity, but I am not the type to feel homesick and don't want to limit myself to this school based on that. Also, they don't have any kind of connection/guaranteed interview type deal with the dental school (But, they admit a large percentage of their in-state applicants each year, around 45% or so).

Does anyone have any feedback or advice? I am open to anything, just needed another opinion. I am mostly looking at Roseman and UAB at the moment, but I am willing to go anywhere to achieve my goals.

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Hey guys! I just need a little advice as I am receiving a lot of conflicting counsel at the moment.

I am a first gen student about to graduate with a BS in Biomedical Sciences, but my science GPA and DAT could use a little work. I plan to retake the DAT in late May/early June and attend a one year specialized master's program this coming year to help build up my application. I applied to 5 different masters programs, all with the intent to also apply to dental school this summer so that I could hopefully matriculate next fall. Each of the masters programs that I applied to have a dental school on the same campus/attached and almost all of them offer some form of preferred admittance/guaranteed interview. I am weighing the pros and cons of each school and I was hoping to get another outside opinion on the matter.

1. Colorado- I was awarded an alternate seat for their MHA program, but considering how few people that they admit, I don't expect this to go anywhere. This was the only program that offered a reserved seat in the dental school following completion of one year of their masters program and meeting their performance standards in said program. I wanted to mention it, but I am no putting much weight into this choice considering the circumstances.

2. Rutgers- I was accepted into their Biomedical Sciences Masters (Dental Scholars track). It's a 30 credit hours (1 year) program and they offer a guaranteed interview if you have above a 3.7 GPA in the first 20 hours of the program and a minimum 20 TS and AA on your DAT. Obviously, I think Rutgers is a great school, but I honestly don't know much beyond that. I am not familiar with their program or New Jersey in general, but I don't want that to dissuade me from what could be a really good opportunity. You get to take classes in the dental school alongside dental students and conduct research in the dental school. On the downside, I am out of state so tuition would roughly be ~$41,000 and I think the cost of living would be relatively high.

3. Tufts- MBS (dental track). I am waiting on a decision from Tufts, but I wanted to include it here regardless for review purposes. This program has pretty stellar reviews from past students and their matriculation rate into dental school is through the roof. You get a guaranteed interview with their dental school so long as you have above a 3.2 GPA in the fall semester of your masters. It is specialized to dentistry with classes offered pertaining to oral biology and other related concepts. Tufts is another school with a fantastic reputation, but not so great cost of attendance. Once again, I am not from New England so I am not super familiar with Boston, but I know cost of living is high and their tuition is ~$65,000 (Dental school tuition is really high as well).

4. Roseman- I was accepted into their Masters of Biomedical Sciences. I had a really great interview with them and I felt like they were personally invested in my success as a student. Their program curriculum is a little vague, so I can't speak on that necessarily. It isn't exactly specific to dental, but they seem to focus a lot on their predental students and offer priority consideration to their dental school with above a 3.0 in the last 30 hours of science courses and above a 17 in all of your DAT subsections. In addition, it is a three year program so I would be done in less time than the others. Tuition is around ~$32,000 and the cost of living is lower compared to most other locations I am considering. Their dental school is pretty expensive as well, I couldn't find an exact cost for their 3 year program but current students are estimating around $350,000 or so.

5. UAB- I got into their Masters of Biomedical and Health Sciences, which is a pretty intensive 11 month program for pre-health students. It is not specific to dental at all and encompasses students aiming to become a variety of professional occupations (PA, DPT, MD, etc.). This is my in-state school, meaning that it is the cheapest tuition of all of my options ($16,000), but pretty on par with Roseman for cost of living. My main problem with UAB is that during my interview they advised me to wait until after I finished their masters to apply to dental school instead of applying this cycle. It also starts in May, meaning that I would have to move to Birmingham and attempt to take the DAT in a tiny window between graduating from undergrad and starting the masters. Most dentists that I know graduated from this program and they are adamant that I should attend here based on reputation and cost, but I worry about having to possibly take another gap year which I would like to avoid if possible. My family is really pushing for me to attend here as well just based on proximity, but I am not the type to feel homesick and don't want to limit myself to this school based on that. Also, they don't have any kind of connection/guaranteed interview type deal with the dental school (But, they admit a large percentage of their in-state applicants each year, around 45% or so).

Does anyone have any feedback or advice? I am open to anything, just needed another opinion. I am mostly looking at Roseman and UAB at the moment, but I am willing to go anywhere to achieve my goals.
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My main problem with UAB is that during my interview they advised me to wait until after I finished their masters to apply to dental school instead of applying this cycle.
They’re probably right. The point is that this program makes up for deficits in your application profile. Unless you have a record of success in the program, how is it supposed to do that? If you submit your dental school application right as you start this program, are dental schools just supposed to take your word that you’re going to excel in your master’s program?

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They’re probably right. The point is that this program makes up for deficits in your application profile. Unless you have a record of success in the program, how is it supposed to do that? If you submit your dental school application right as you start this program, are dental schools just supposed to take your word that you’re going to excel in your master’s program?

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They’re probably right. The point is that this program makes up for deficits in your application profile. Unless you have a record of success in the program, how is it supposed to do that? If you submit your dental school application right as you start this program, are dental schools just supposed to take your word that you’re going to excel in your master’s program?

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Totally understand what you're saying! The reason I was slightly put off by this is that the other programs are designed to have students concurrently apply, review their in progress/completed course work from the fall + summer and undergraduate work, and then make a decision based on that. UAB is more traditional and wants to do as you suggested- review the whole masters completed. I just wanted to avoid taking a gap year after a masters if possible, that would stretch this out into a 6 year process between a masters, a gap, and dental school.
 
My stats aren't horrible, just weak enough to make me feel like I need a little boost to help make me competitive applicant. Haven't had a ton of help with this process, as I mentioned I'm first gen and I go to a huge university where advisors have a hard time giving personal advice, so I'm sort of figuring this out on my own.

At the crux of the issue I guess is it worth it to pay more and possibly finish school earlier, or save money and stretch the process out? I don't think I want to practice long term in Alabama but obviously I am still considering UAB for dental no matter where I go for a masters.
 
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Totally understand what you're saying! The reason I was slightly put off by this is that the other programs are designed to have students concurrently apply, review their in progress/completed course work from the fall + summer and undergraduate work, and then make a decision based on that. UAB is more traditional and wants to do as you suggested- review the whole masters completed. I just wanted to avoid taking a gap year after a masters if possible, that would stretch this out into a 6 year process between a masters, a gap, and dental school.
I don't see a WAMC profile for you. Exactly what are your AADSAS GPAs where you need "improvement"?

I don't advise anyone go for a SMP unless your sGPA is 3.2 or below. Dental schools do take applicants with sGPAs above 3.3 but usually I would want to see strong performance in advanced biomedical science courses.

IMO, it is a waste of money to apply while starting a SMP because -- as pointed out -- admissions committees won't take your promises for strong academic performance on face value, just as we don't take anticipated/in-progress courses as automatic A's towards your GPA. You should put your energy to making the conditions of the linkage admissions agreement rather than worry about a broad application. That would be the way to avoid a gap year. Conserve your money towards the tuition you will agree to pay to your future dental school.

If the point of this thread is to convince you to go to the UAB option, do it... but be focused on your endgame if it is to practice in Alabama.
 
My stats aren't horrible, just weak enough to make me feel like I need a little boost to help make me competitive applicant. Haven't had a ton of help with this process, as I mentioned I'm first gen and I go to a huge university where advisors have a hard time giving personal advice, so I'm sort of figuring this out on my own.

At the crux of the issue I guess is it worth it to pay more and possibly finish school earlier, or save money and stretch the process out? I don't think I want to practice long term in Alabama but obviously I am still considering UAB for dental no matter where I go for a masters.
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perhaps you are not as bad off as you think...
 
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