Choosing between two programs for externship - Mercy Lorain OH and Jewish Cincinatti

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I am trying to decide which one of these two programs to extern at this coming year, and I was wondering if anybody here had the opportunity to extern at or actually attend either of these programs as well as their input on either one. Neither of these were reviewed in the thread in the student forum and while I've gotten some feedback from upperclassman, that feedback has been fairly varied. I'm just hoping to get more input on this before choosing one.

My understanding is that both are solid programs, but I would appreciate any feedback.

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Your best bet is to email the director of those programs and see if he'll put you into contact with the residents. Then you can ask your questions and see if it's a right fit. If the director doesn't email you back then I wouldn't even bother rotating at those places (generally a bad sign).

I have never heard of those programs btw, but last time I was looking at externships was 7 years ago.
 
Let me throw this out there too - the best residency is going to be the one that is able to get you a good job after residency. If they teach how to be a great surgeon that's an added benefit. I know a lot of people who went to high ranking programs that were still posting classified ads trying to get a job in June before graduation.
 
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Let me throw this out there too - the best residency is going to be the one that is able to get you a good job after residency. If they teach how to be a great surgeon that's an added benefit. I know a lot of people who went to high ranking programs that were still posting classified ads trying to get a job in June before graduation.

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If the truth came out about what types of jobs fellows were getting - ie the number of private practice jobs - you would see a massive downtrend in fellowship applications. Instead ACFAS just announced 12 new programs got approval.
 
Can you elaborate on the truth
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If the truth came out about what types of jobs fellows were getting - ie the number of private practice jobs - you would see a massive downtrend in fellowship applications. Instead ACFAS just announced 12 new programs got approval.
 
Can you elaborate on the truth

A majority of fellowships are now pointless in terms of leading to higher paying, more prestigious jobs. There are so many fellowships now that most fellowship graduates end up getting the same crappy podiatry practice jobs that everyone else gets.

A few fellowship programs have gotten real smart and are making them 24 months lol. Meaning they get to pay a fellow (that can function like an associate) half of what they would otherwise and they have even more continuity since the fellow is staying for two years instead of the usual 1 and done that a lot of these podiatry groups get when hiring new grads from residency as associates in the practice. It's awful and brilliant at the same time.
 
I can speak for Jewish, it's a very solid, respected, well rounded program with good surgical load. It was one of my favorite externships. They provided free housing right beside the hospital and it was great making friends with other students in the housing. We would have movie night and go to Kings Island. Also, the cafeteria food was free which is a huge plus in terms of cost and convenience. And it also had one of the highest resident salaries of all the places I applied to (Cinci also has a cheap cost of living).

My biggest piece of advice for residency is get in where you fit in. Reputation is well established at these places as well so do your research. It's amazing how some programs you will just fit right in and look at the attendings as mentors/friends, while other programs you will feel like an outsider who has no shot as they already have someone in mind.
 
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