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ksmi117 said:
SDN is for grown-up doctors too!!!
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:laugh: Sorry, I meant explicitly for practicing physicians. They discuss actual cases and get the opinions of other specialties, something that is forbidden on SDN I believe.
 
bobsmith said:
did you get a picture of your brain?
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I will by the end of this week. They promised anatomical and superimposed 😀 lets hope they are not big fat liars

although on a slightly different note...researchers should be required to do some social activities...I felt like I must be the only human being they have had to interact in quite some time lol
ksmi117 said:
My iron level is too low to give blood today. 🙁 So now my finger hurts for naught.
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I am donating blood on Wed. I'd normally be worried about my iron level...but i just started taking my iron supplements again a few weeks ago...I think I will be set 🙂.


oh and i forgot most importanly....YAY DW! Congrats! Knock em dead.
part about your fam fam being weird...i think you are in the majority there 🙂
 
Four years from now, I expect to see all you 2014 crew over on Sermo. We gonna bomb that party up, it will be badass.😎
 
2014, Fair or Foul?

My two roommates lived in my apt in Baton Rouge the entire 5 week winter break (1 week on vacation). I did not. We get the energy bill for that month and I tell my roommate I don't think I should pay the entire amount since I didn't live there. He comes up with some story that doesn't even relate to why I should pay. Total comes to $72, 50 energy and 22 water. I think I will just give him a check for 50. I am still paying full water and cable even though I wasn't there, I just refuse to pay full energy. Hell, I think I'm being nice by paying any energy.

And that's not even counting my roommate who told me he'd go to the LSU game and made me buy a non-refundable $80 ticket that I couldn't sell after he backed out.

So, Fair or Foul?
 
metallica81788 said:
2014, Fair or Foul?

My two roommates lived in my apt in Baton Rouge the entire 5 week winter break (1 week on vacation). I did not. We get the energy bill for that month and I tell my roommate I don't think I should pay the entire amount since I didn't live there. He comes up with some story that doesn't even relate to why I should pay. Total comes to $72, 50 energy and 22 water. I think I will just give him a check for 50. I am still paying full water and cable even though I wasn't there, I just refuse to pay full energy. Hell, I think I'm being nice by paying any energy.

And that's not even counting my roommate who told me he'd go to the LSU game and made me buy a non-refundable $80 ticket that I couldn't sell after he backed out.

So, Fair or Foul?
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I wouldn't pay anything at all, and tell him he still owes you $80 for the ticket. So yes, what you've proposed is fair.
 
ksmi117 said:
I wouldn't pay anything at all, and tell him he still owes you $80 for the ticket. So yes, what you've proposed is fair.
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Thank you. 😀

By the way, how's Biochem going? I just found out today that I didn't have to necessarily "memorize" the amino acids, just know them very well.
 
what was the original terms of the agreement? if you guys decided to split it monthly evenly, then i guess you have to banana split it. why is your bill so high
 
brooklynblunder said:
what was the original terms of the agreement? if you guys decided to split it monthly evenly, then i guess you have to banana split it. why is your bill so high
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Hell if I know why the bill is so high, our place is bigger than a normal apt, it's a townhome. We all split and one guy pays the bill.

With my old roommates, 2 of us moved out over winter and 2 stayed - they didn't make us pay energy for when we were gone.
 
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFAy84Pesb0[/YOUTUBE]

This is the most engaging half-minute I saw tonight of the Bill O'Reilly show. Is that Glenn Beck?
 
metallica81788 said:
Thank you. 😀

By the way, how's Biochem going? I just found out today that I didn't have to necessarily "memorize" the amino acids, just know them very well.
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They're not that hard to straight memorize if you just draw them out repeatedly. You can do names, abbreviations, structures and properties in less than an hour per day each day for a week or so. The key is daily repetition, and physically writing them out, not just staring at them. There's many patterns and commonalities to be found.

I group them like this, with an acronym to remind me which are in each group:
Nonpolar: GAPVLIM
Aromatic (also nonpolar): PTT
Polar: STCAG
Negative: AG
Positive: LAH

Edit: forgot the mnemonics. STCAG is pronounced "Saint Cag." AG is negative because cornfields are boring. 😛 LAH is positive, as in lah, lah, lah, I'm skipping around and this is fun. GAPVLIM and PTT are just memorized I guess.

The AG in Polar and Negative go together, just minor differences in structure. Other obvious patterns help, like phenylalanine is just alanine with a phenyl group attached, etc. Good luck! :luck:
 
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SteinUmStein said:
They're not that hard to straight memorize if you just draw them out repeatedly. You can do names, abbreviations, structures and properties in less than an hour per day each day for a week or so. The key is daily repetition, and physically writing them out, not just staring at them. There's many patterns and commonalities to be found.

I group them like this, with an acronym to remind me which are in each group:
Nonpolar: GAPVLIM
Aromatic (also nonpolar): PTT
Polar: STCAG
Negative: AG
Positive: LAH

Edit: forgot the mnemonics. STCAG is pronounced "Saint Cag." AG is negative because cornfields are boring. 😛 LAH is positive, as in lah, lah, lah, I'm skipping around and this is fun. GAPVLIM and PTT are just memorized I guess.

The AG in Polar and Negative go together, just minor differences in structure. Other obvious patterns help, like phenylalanine is just alanine with a phenyl group attached, etc. Good luck! :luck:
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Nice. I haven't even started reviewing them yet and this is helpful.

Thanks.
 
metallica81788 said:
Thank you. 😀

By the way, how's Biochem going? I just found out today that I didn't have to necessarily "memorize" the amino acids, just know them very well.
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I have all the structures memorized, and most of the properties. It's the hydrophobic ones that get me, but soon enough I'll know them all. 🙂
 
ksmi117 said:
I have all the structures memorized, and most of the properties. It's the hydrophobic ones that get me, but soon enough I'll know them all. 🙂
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It took me awhile to sort out tryptophan and histidine... they are a pain, but drawing them out helped me.

Random question: What does everyone think of neurology? Is it really just diagnostic, with very few treatment options, or has that changed? It really interests me, but the internist I shadowed said there's very little you can actually DO for patients. I dunno why, but with the lull in applications I've been pondering specialties... 🙄
 
SteinUmStein said:
It took me awhile to sort out tryptophan and histidine... they are a pain, but drawing them out helped me.

Random question: What does everyone think of neurology? Is it really just diagnostic, with very few treatment options, or has that changed? It really interests me, but the internist I shadowed said there's very little you can actually DO for patients. I dunno why, but with the lull in applications I've been pondering specialties... 🙄
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What turns me off about neurology is that at least 75% of it deals with chronic pain patients that you can't ever completely help.
 
Tryptophan is the only AA with two rings, making it Wide.
 
i like to focus on the functionality of the peptides and the uses that i have in the lab w/ them. it becomes part of the lingo after un momento
 
SteinUmStein said:
Random question: What does everyone think of neurology? Is it really just diagnostic, with very few treatment options, or has that changed? It really interests me, but the internist I shadowed said there's very little you can actually DO for patients. I dunno why, but with the lull in applications I've been pondering specialties... 🙄
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I think there's more treatment options than there used to be, but it's still very much a improve quality of life speciality more than a straight up cure the disease speciality.

There's been a increase in procudural stuff in it (stroke and neuro-critical care sub-specialization) which is a break from their only diagnosis steriotype.

Like Met said they do get alot of chronic pain patients, which I hear are a pretty high maintanance group to deal with.

I think it's a pretty nifty field, it's on my short list of things I'm interested in.
 
metallica81788 said:
2014, Fair or Foul?

My two roommates lived in my apt in Baton Rouge the entire 5 week winter break (1 week on vacation). I did not. We get the energy bill for that month and I tell my roommate I don't think I should pay the entire amount since I didn't live there. He comes up with some story that doesn't even relate to why I should pay. Total comes to $72, 50 energy and 22 water. I think I will just give him a check for 50. I am still paying full water and cable even though I wasn't there, I just refuse to pay full energy. Hell, I think I'm being nice by paying any energy.

And that's not even counting my roommate who told me he'd go to the LSU game and made me buy a non-refundable $80 ticket that I couldn't sell after he backed out.

So, Fair or Foul?
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I don't understand your arrangement. You each pay around $72 a month? That's really high, if that's the case (I don't even pay that much total each month), but that's what I'm getting from what you said. If so, sounds fair to me, unless your energy company charges a flat rate just for having energy activated (mine does). In other words, even if I don't use it at all, it still costs ~10 bucks to keep it on. Unless you would have called the energy company to cancel your service while you were gone, I'd pay that part of it (if it applies).

metallica81788 said:
By the way, how's Biochem going? I just found out today that I didn't have to necessarily "memorize" the amino acids, just know them very well.
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Yeah, I didn't memorize them at all. I knew their names and "category" but didn't even bother with structures or anything.
 
brooklynblunder said:
but lysine is abbreviated with a K, arginine is with a R and tryptophan is with a W 🙁
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Yeah, I learned the structures and groups before we were told to memorize the single-letter abbreviations. 😳 It still helps me to quickly sort out which AA's are in which group, and memorizing the few that are weird isn't tough at all, as suggest by tWyptophan and aRginine, as well as Special K Lysine, which is just... special. 😎

Argh, I wish neuro was just another internal medicine fellowship so I could delay my decision another couple of years... :laugh: According to these books:

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... neurology has many new treatment options. "In the 1950s, physicians often jokingly defined a neurologist as "a specialist in the differential diagnosis of incurable disease." ... Contrary to this misinformed belief, neurologists can do much to treat their patients' wide variety of disorders. Over the past several years, the wealth of therapeutic options has risen dramatically.

So says the Lange book, anyway. We'll see in third year, I guess?
 
JJMrK said:
I don't understand your arrangement. You each pay around $72 a month? That's really high, if that's the case (I don't even pay that much total each month), but that's what I'm getting from what you said. If so, sounds fair to me, unless your energy company charges a flat rate just for having energy activated (mine does). In other words, even if I don't use it at all, it still costs ~10 bucks to keep it on. Unless you would have called the energy company to cancel your service while you were gone, I'd pay that part of it (if it applies).
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The energy bill was $50 each and the water was $22 each. I'm pretty sure they would charge us even if nobody was there, but it would be miniscule. If I do what I'm planning, I will pay $28 for energy - which would more than cover the flat rate, especially since I wasn't there using anything.
 
i dont get what the point of memorizing all the structures are

but i would do it by groups (ie non poplar) and and then look at the pH of each hydrogen and you can work out the logic of the structures rather than strictly try to grind it out (i dont have the attention span for that)
 
I've done a very good job avoiding typical "premed" classes for the last 3 semesters, but now I'm in 3 classes with them. 😱

It's odd not being able to check SDN in the majority of my classes anymore.
 
brooklynblunder said:
i dont get what the point of memorizing all the structures are

but i would do it by groups (ie non poplar) and and then look at the pH of each hydrogen and you can work out the logic of the structures rather than strictly try to grind it out (i dont have the attention span for that)
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Honestly, that's all that's important for med school. However, if your undergrad biochem class is like mine, you might need to know specific enzyme chain reactions... in which case, where all the stupid protons go in the reactions and all of the specific polar/nonpolar bonds that stabilize the active site are important, hence the functional groups are important.
 
brooklynblunder said:
i dont get what the point of memorizing all the structures are

but i would do it by groups (ie non poplar) and and then look at the pH of each hydrogen and you can work out the logic of the structures rather than strictly try to grind it out (i dont have the attention span for that)
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I find it satisfying in a masochistic way to sit and write and rewrite amino acids for half an hour straight. No, I'm not being sarcastic. Yes, I'm weird. 😀

And no, it's not that useful to know their structure. I just had to know it for a biochem test. I don't think I'll ever forget them for the most part, though.
 
yea neuro seems to be something i'm not interested in currently

i kinda like the surgical fields though + the highly surgical/procedural specialties like optho (which is pretty much become very procedural), derm, and cardio

but those are a conflict with the md phd degree (which im still debating hard)
 
you ever go in for like contact lens fitting or something and they have the poster of all the things wrong with the eye and theres all these gross pictures
 
I was tested straight-up: draw proline, what is glutamine's one letter abbreviation, etc. for every single test. You had to know your shiz. Also, it was really easy points. KA-CHOW!
 
brooklynblunder said:
yea neuro seems to be something i'm not interested in currently

i kinda like the surgical fields though + the highly surgical/procedural specialties like optho (which is pretty much become very procedural), derm, and cardio

but those are a conflict with the md phd degree (which im still debating hard)
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I considered the mud/phud option, but had several PhD candidates in multiple labs telling me to stay as far away from a PhD track as possible. One of the grad students I was close with pretty much made me promise I'd go get a straight MD and never look back. :laugh:
 
Also enzyme mechanisms. My prof loved curved arrows stuff.
 
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