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[StarryNights]

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u can tell when you like the guy/girl when you really hate the games

Lol, well this guy I only kind of like but I'm not into games at all. Some of my friends tell me to do things like let guys call you at least twice before calling him back and I think it's kind of mean. Or random stuff like if he invites you out after Wednesday always say no or else you look like you have nothing to do, haha. I have no clue where they get this stuff from.

 

[oaklandguy]

Yeah CA does have some really awesome girls. The social scene (at least in socal) is kinda crazy though. Everyone tries to act like they are baller with a bunch of cash. For example guys driving leased mercedes with sick rims to the club, but going home to a dump. A lot of girls out here are superficial and feed into this scene. Maybe that was the kind of stuff bigball was talking about earlier.

short story... a lot of beotches around here (but some awesome girls too, just not at the clubs/bars).

I'm not gonna lie, Michigan is the same way but probably with less money to floss out with.

I live in a really really rich suburb compared to the rest of MI. The average salary in the city I live in is $170k a year. And I'm not materialistic at all, I rock out in jeans or sweat pants and a t-shirt. The money these people waste on clothes and cars is ridiculous. Some of these kids have a never ending bank flow or something, it's unreal. But yeah, you have snobby girls and then some cool people too.

My thing is, I fall for snobby girls cause I like the whole exclusive thing since I'm exclusive. They end up being closet freaks though, at least for the most part.

 

[IndianVercetti]

Lol, well this guy I only kind of like but I'm not into games at all. Some of my friends tell me to do things like let guys call you at least twice before calling him back and I think it's kind of mean. Or random stuff like if he invites you out after Wednesday always say no or else you look like you have nothing to do, haha. I have no clue where they get this stuff from.

this is just strange advice, don't listen to them, starry

 

[FlowRate]

How is the AMCAS application coming along you guys??

I'm throwing a flag on this play. No talking about AMCAS tonight.

Haha, so you're friend is like the opposite of a man-*****.

Dude, I kind've feel you on the whole dating church girls. I'm like the rugged arabic guy, and none of the girls mom's like me initially and don't want me dating their daughters. Plus I felt super bad having had kissed a girl and then dating a girl that had never kissed a guy. I'm not breaking any of those girls in though is the thing.

However, I don't exactly come off as a virgin. So a lot of people don't believe me. It's kind've dumb that I actually save it, because initially no girls believe it.

Yeah man, what's great is that I can guarantee you that most of the kids at church have been foolin' around, too. It makes finding someone with genuine reciprocity of religious conviction super difficult. I do my best not to pretend. This convo has reignited my interest in dating this nursing major from church hahaha.

 

[IndianVercetti]

think we can hit 8000 posts tonight?

 

[bigballer27]

Lol, well this guy I only kind of like but I'm not into games at all. Some of my friends tell me to do things like let guys call you at least twice before calling him back and I think it's kind of mean. Or random stuff like if he invites you out after Wednesday always say no or else you look like you have nothing to do, haha. I have no clue where they get this stuff from.

that's the type of thing that messes up all relationships

that would be good and fun in 11th grade of highschool. but as an adult, you should be able to express your feelings and be honest.

i have NEVER seen anything good come from that, especially in adults. please someone prove me otherwise

 

[oaklandguy]

Yeah, I know all those guys could be full of crap and just using it for popularity.

I personally think Taylor Swift is fake and if she's not she won't last long. Every girl wants to bang her bf, he knows he can be getting some, why would he stay with her if she's not giving him any?

I'm naive, Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy's girlfriends are reallly attractive, so I don't know if they could control themselves or not. But it never hurts to be hopefuly, Tebow came out an said he was a virg, so I give him benefit of the doubt until proven guilty. But yeah, I'm ready for a let down as well, like it turns out Tebow is a crackhead or his girl had an abortion or something.

 

[rHinO1]

Only if she's into games. This guy I was messaging with suddenly decided to take 3 days to return my texts. So I let him wait a month before answering his email, then stopped taking his calls. Head games suck

I have never gone to this extreme, but that is a way to slow things down. I have gone on a first date and really liked the girl, but wanted to go slow (meaning not transition from dating to exclusive yet) so I would try to only respond to text messages, but not initiate any. Some girls text like 20 times a day right after a first date. That implies something beyond just dating. It isn't really a head game, it is just a way to keep the other person from thinking you are super into them yet.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

this is just strange advice, don't listen to them, starry

yeah, that is weird.

 

[bigballer27]

i dont remember from where this came from, but "never be a girls first, and never her last"

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

I have never gone to this extreme, but that is a way to slow things down. I have gone on a first date and really liked the girl, but wanted to go slow (meaning not transition from dating to exclusive yet) so I would try to only respond to text messages, but not initiate any. Some girls text like 20 times a day right after a first date. That implies something beyond just dating. It isn't really a head game, it is just a way to keep the other person from thinking you are super into them yet.

wow. this one girl... oh man. we went on a couple dates before it went down, but after that she was blowing me up all the time. texts, calls, facebook, i just stopped responding. it was ridiculous.

 

[IndianVercetti]

wow. this one girl... oh man. we went on a couple dates before it went down, but after that she was blowing me up all the time. texts, calls, facebook, i just stopped responding. it was ridiculous.

double meaning?

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

i dont remember from where this came from, but "never be a girls first, and never her last"

if you actually like the girl, relationship worthy, its fun to break her in because you get her to do whatever it is you like.

 

[oaklandguy]

I'm throwing a flag on this play. No talking about AMCAS tonight.

Yeah man, what's great is that I can guarantee you that most of the kids at church have been foolin' around, too. It makes finding someone with genuine reciprocity of religious conviction super difficult. I do my best not to pretend. This convo has reignited my interest in dating this nursing major from church hahaha.

The thing is, my church community is pretty tight knit, so I know who is doing what.

The thing about church girls though is that if one isn't on the same level as me, if she's dating me because I am religious, she will have the want to be on the same level as me and that is really important.

But I feel you, nowadays, a lot of people just don't have the desire for religious passion and just go to feel good about themselves or go because their parents make them. Not gonna lie, some Sunday mornings I am tired, and I only go because my parents force me to go, but Sunday mornings aren't the only day you will find me at a church lol.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

double meaning?

what?

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

oh no. like she was bugging the shi t out of me on every form of communication possible.

 

[rHinO1]

Lol, well this guy I only kind of like but I'm not into games at all. Some of my friends tell me to do things like let guys call you at least twice before calling him back and I think it's kind of mean. Or random stuff like if he invites you out after Wednesday always say no or else you look like you have nothing to do, haha. I have no clue where they get this stuff from.

the difference between this and what I commented on above is that the previous post had the goal of protecting the other persons feelings by letting them subtly know you aren't quite where they are at yet. However the whole 2 calls thing and after wednesday truly is just playing games b/c it serves no purpose but to make you seem... less desperate.... less interested than you are... just lies for no reason. It isn't genuine.

 

[StarryNights]

I have never gone to this extreme, but that is a way to slow things down. I have gone on a first date and really liked the girl, but wanted to go slow (meaning not transition from dating to exclusive yet) so I would try to only respond to text messages, but not initiate any. Some girls text like 20 times a day right after a first date. That implies something beyond just dating. It isn't really a head game, it is just a way to keep the other person from thinking you are super into them yet.

Yea, that's what I thought after the first couple of times he did it, but I only texted him to answer his questions and follow up on plans. Then after I didn't respond to his email after two weeks he called me over 5 times in 2 hours? That was beyond obvious and I really lost interest after that. I can totally understand when you're too busy with shadowing and working and catching up on sleep, but intentionally messing around with my head ticks me off.

 

[bigballer27]

if you actually like the girl, relationship worthy, its fun to break her in because you get her to do whatever it is you like.

double ended dagger with that one, some girls take that first one thing really far (threatening any other woman that talks to you, telling you she will do horrible things to herself if you dont respond, etc...not good stuff)

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

Yea, that's what I thought after the first couple of times he did it, but I only texted him to answer his questions and follow up on plans. Then after I didn't respond to his email after two weeks he called me over 5 times in 2 hours? That was beyond obvious and I really lost interest after that. I can totally understand when you're too busy with shadowing and working and catching up on sleep, but intentionally messing around with my head ticks me off.

sorry starry, at lest you didnt stand for it. good job.

 

[oaklandguy]

the difference between this and what I commented on above is that the previous post had the goal of protecting the other persons feelings by letting them subtly know you aren't quite where they are at yet. However the whole 2 calls thing and after wednesday truly is just playing games b/c it serves no purpose but to make you seem... less desperate.... less interested than you are... just lies for no reason. It isn't genuine.

Yeah, most girls just play games due to the whole desperation thing. Once they get to know the guy and there is a mutual realization that neither of you are desperate then after that there is no need for playing games.

No one plays games while you are dating. There becomes a certain time where it stops.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

double ended dagger with that one, some girls take that first one thing really far (threatening any other woman that talks to you, telling you she will do horrible things to herself if you dont respond, etc...not good stuff)

i have a lot of female friends, so if she cant handle that to begin with it's not going to work anyway.

 

[oaklandguy]

Yea, that's what I thought after the first couple of times he did it, but I only texted him to answer his questions and follow up on plans. Then after I didn't respond to his email after two weeks he called me over 5 times in 2 hours? That was beyond obvious and I really lost interest after that. I can totally understand when you're too busy with shadowing and working and catching up on sleep, but intentionally messing around with my head ticks me off.

If he called you 5 times in 2 hours he has no idea what he is doing or he put you on a pedastal and got way too excited and made a rookie mistake.

 

[IndianVercetti]

Yea, that's what I thought after the first couple of times he did it, but I only texted him to answer his questions and follow up on plans. Then after I didn't respond to his email after two weeks he called me over 5 times in 2 hours? That was beyond obvious and I really lost interest after that. I can totally understand when you're too busy with shadowing and working and catching up on sleep, but intentionally messing around with my head ticks me off.

i think it's too little to go off of. He might just be anxious

i wouldn't write someone off because of stuff like this, but i would definitely make a mental note of it, for sure,

but that's just me

 

[bigballer27]

i have a lot of female friends, so if she cant handle that to begin with it's not going to work anyway.

but you wouldnt know until after its too late lol

 

[StarryNights]

Yeah, most girls just play games due to the whole desperation thing. Once they get to know the guy and there is a mutual realization that neither of you are desperate then after that there is no need for playing games.

No one plays games while you are dating. There becomes a certain time where it stops.

Nope, some of my friends (and me during my girly phase) pick fights with their bfs for no reason when the relationship needed drama. I don't know why we do this.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

i think it's too little to go off of. He might just be anxious

i wouldn't write someone off because of stuff like this, but i would definitely make a mental note of it, for sure,

but that's just me

i kinda agree. but, we're guys. if someone calls me 5 times in 2 hours they need to take a chill pill.

but you wouldnt know until after its too late lol

there are signs, like if she is cool and friendly with the female friends, then its all good. if she is shy and comes off bitchy and threatened its a deal breaker.

 

[oaklandguy]

i think it's too little to go off of. He might just be anxious

i wouldn't write someone off because of stuff like this, but i would definitely make a mental note of it, for sure,

but that's just me

I don't think I would ever call a girl more than twice in a row. Not that it's part of the game or a rule or anything, but that is kind've creepy. Calling someone 5 times in a row. I was stood up once (yes I know, I barely believe it either) and I called twice and when she didn't respond I realized what was happening and went over to the bar and introduced myself to some lovely young ladies who ended up buying me drinks. Not to mention, I may or may not be, but probably am, under age.

I just think that guy was desperate and that is not what you want.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

Nope, some of my friends (and me during my girly phase) pick fights with their bfs for no reason when the relationship needed drama. I don't know why we do this.

now that shi t is annoying and its easily detectable if you're a relationship long enough.

 

[rHinO1]

wow. this one girl... oh man. we went on a couple dates before it went down, but after that she was blowing me up all the time. texts, calls, facebook, i just stopped responding. it was ridiculous.

sometimes when someone is that into you that quickly, and it is obvious they are way more into you than you are to them it is overwhelming. I used to either cut off contact or just go with it. I've gotten better at telling girls what I'm looking for (casual, just dating for now, or whatever). It is hard to tell a girl that but if you are genuine with what you are saying, in my experience the girls will respect the truth. But you also have to do it really early... like first date early.... before you even kiss so that she doesn't feel like you led her on.

short story: I like to make it clear that a first date is just a first date. First date does not mean exclusive relationship.

 

[bigballer27]

Nope, some of my friends (and me during my girly phase) pick fights with their bfs for no reason when the relationship needed drama. I don't know why we do this.

gd help those boys

 

[StarryNights]

I'll be desperate when I hit 33. I don't want to die as crazy old cat lady!

 

[oaklandguy]

Nope, some of my friends (and me during my girly phase) pick fights with their bfs for no reason when the relationship needed drama. I don't know why we do this.

I stated this earlier so sorry if I sound redundant to the guys, but I had a girl who was "turned on" by fighting, so she would try to pick fights just for the shear pleasure of being degraded by me and seeing me yell and throw things.

But I guess the type of girls that you are associating with either have a confidence issue or are immature at dating? I may be completely wrong, but I've dated several girls and have not encountered playing of any games (other than maybe me trying to get her to pay for something) during a relationship.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

sometimes when someone is that into you that quickly, and it is obvious they are way more into you than you are to them it is overwhelming. I used to either cut off contact or just go with it. I've gotten better at telling girls what I'm looking for (casual, just dating for now, or whatever). It is hard to tell a girl that but if you are genuine with what you are saying, in my experience the girls will respect the truth. But you also have to do it really early... like first date early.... before you even kiss so that she doesn't feel like you led her on.

short story: I like to make it clear that a first date is just a first date. First date does not mean exclusive relationship.

trust me, i was upfront saying i wasn't looking for anything serious, just someone fun to hang out with sometimes.

 

[FlowRate]

Bedtime, gotta be up at 5:30AM for my 7:30AM final. Would be content to get a B in this class if everything else turns out A- or better. Later all =)

 

[rHinO1]

Yea, that's what I thought after the first couple of times he did it, but I only texted him to answer his questions and follow up on plans. Then after I didn't respond to his email after two weeks he called me over 5 times in 2 hours? That was beyond obvious and I really lost interest after that. I can totally understand when you're too busy with shadowing and working and catching up on sleep, but intentionally messing around with my head ticks me off.

oh ic, then he just sounds like a douche 😛

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

gnight flow

 

[oaklandguy]

now that shi t is annoying and its easily detectable if you're a relationship long enough.

So that is a real occurrence? I think I just am blatant about when I end games and that I won't deal with games anymore that it doesn't get brought up during the relationship.

Like my long-term relationships started after I had known the girls and been friends with them for a long time so there really was no game play, it was more like, "Wow, you've liked me all this time? We should probably go out for sushi because you are attractive and have the same moral belief system as me and there is a possibility that our personalities could click, not to mention your dad has an audi and you drive a benzo".

Obviously not sounding that nerdy ^^^

 

[rHinO1]

trust me, i was upfront saying i wasn't looking for anything serious, just someone fun to hang out with sometimes.

yeah doesn't always work. Some girls nod their head like they hear what you are saying.... but they really aren't. I hate that.

 

[oaklandguy]

Bedtime, gotta be up at 5:30AM for my 7:30AM final. Would be content to get a B in this class if everything else turns out A- or better. Later all =)

G' nite!

 

[StarryNights]

Really though, the most unhealthy relationship I'm in right now is with a friend. She's a big flake and always canceling at the last minute (I'm ok with cancels, but don't do it an hour before). It was cute in high school and whatnot, but now it's really irritating. While I'm pretty straightforward with guys (this is our problem, this is the solution I expect, what do you want me to change), I'm really passive-aggressive with girl friends. I've never said anything to her about this but I feel like it's created a huge rift.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

So that is a real occurrence? I think I just am blatant about when I end games and that I won't deal with games anymore that it doesn't get brought up during the relationship.

Like my long-term relationships started after I had known the girls and been friends with them for a long time so there really was no game play, it was more like, "Wow, you've liked me all this time? We should probably go out for sushi because you are attractive and have the same moral belief system as me and there is a possibility that our personalities could click, not to mention your dad has an audi and you drive a benzo".

Obviously not sounding that nerdy ^^^

i feel like its only common in girls that are struggling with some insecurities in the relationship. like a mechanism to draw the full attention to her and the relationship by starting a fight.

 

[oaklandguy]

yeah doesn't always work. Some girls nod their head like they hear what you are saying.... but they really aren't. I hate that.

Girls in general speak a different language than men. One time, a girl had purchased baseball tickets, and I was like, "oh that's so sweet but I have a Physiology exam the next day and I really need to study because Physio is pretty hard."

She took it as, "I don't have anything to do, but I would rather chill on the couch with my dog than go to a baseball game with you".

They hear things that are never said, or they don't hear what is said. On a side note: Physio was really hard, I don't know how I 4.0ed that class.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

Really though, the most unhealthy relationship I'm in right now is with a friend. She's a big flake and always canceling at the last minute (I'm ok with cancels, but don't do it an hour before). It was cute in high school and whatnot, but now it's really irritating. While I'm pretty straightforward with guys (this is our problem, this is the solution I expect, what do you want me to change), I'm really passive-aggressive with girl friends. I've never said anything to her about this but I feel like it's created a huge rift.

i had a friend llike that last summer/fall where he would only hang if his girlfriend could come too, and she wasnt 21 yet so it really limited where we would go. playing racquetball was our "thing" but then he even made that suck by laughing during the game, sucking the competitive nature right out of it. needless to say, i broke up with him. hahaha

 

[IndianVercetti]

Really though, the most unhealthy relationship I'm in right now is with a friend. She's a big flake and always canceling at the last minute (I'm ok with cancels, but don't do it an hour before). It was cute in high school and whatnot, but now it's really irritating. While I'm pretty straightforward with guys (this is our problem, this is the solution I expect, what do you want me to change), I'm really passive-aggressive with girl friends. I've never said anything to her about this but I feel like it's created a huge rift.

just tell her then, i guess

from my female friends, i know the dynamics of interaction between girls are different though

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

Girls in general speak a different language than men. One time, a girl had purchased baseball tickets, and I was like, "oh that's so sweet but I have a Physiology exam the next day and I really need to study because Physio is pretty hard."

She took it as, "I don't have anything to do, but I would rather chill on the couch with my dog than go to a baseball game with you".

They hear things that are never said, or they don't hear what is said. On a side note: Physio was really hard, I don't know how I 4.0ed that class.

insecurities dawg.

 

[rHinO1]

Really though, the most unhealthy relationship I'm in right now is with a friend. She's a big flake and always canceling at the last minute (I'm ok with cancels, but don't do it an hour before). It was cute in high school and whatnot, but now it's really irritating. While I'm pretty straightforward with guys (this is our problem, this is the solution I expect, what do you want me to change), I'm really passive-aggressive with girl friends. I've never said anything to her about this but I feel like it's created a huge rift.

That would tick me off too. I'm lucky guys aren't like that haha.

We generally do what we say with the homies. 👍

 

[oaklandguy]

Really though, the most unhealthy relationship I'm in right now is with a friend. She's a big flake and always canceling at the last minute (I'm ok with cancels, but don't do it an hour before). It was cute in high school and whatnot, but now it's really irritating. While I'm pretty straightforward with guys (this is our problem, this is the solution I expect, what do you want me to change), I'm really passive-aggressive with girl friends. I've never said anything to her about this but I feel like it's created a huge rift.

I'm not Dr. Phil or anything, but from what I have experienced with relationships between girls is that if she's doing this she obviously doesn't care for the relationship nearly as much as you do. It is probably too late for you to be able to revive it.

 

[StarryNights]

i feel like its only common in girls that are struggling with some insecurities in the relationship. like a mechanism to draw the full attention to her and the relationship by starting a fight.

Ouch! Harsh, but true

 

[bigballer27]

all this relationship talk makes me want to get to the nearest club asap