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AymAyzing said:
Well, the one thing I don't like is that sometimes the CC classes are TOO easy. I took general bio 1 Spring and I don't feel like I learned anything. He pretty much gave us the questions and answers to his test. Sets you up for failure.

But on the positive side, I did save money 🙂
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Woah 😱 That sounds a little too easy. I'm sure you'll adjust quickly if keep up with the work. Don't leave anything for tomorrow what you can do today 👍👍
 
tman5890 said:
Just the material. It's way more in depth :laugh: Gotta know the most minute details. My friends that took biochem last year told me about remember everything single detail for the processes in cellular respiration and all the molecules along with it. There's a lot more stuff, but I can't exactly remember....You'll probably touch some of it in orgo.
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well i better hit the books hard :laugh:
 
ozzi22 said:
do you have any books to recommend? i hear orgo as a second language does the trick?
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Ochem ASL is awesome. I only used the part 1 though. Its good for the fundamentals but after the first quarter it was easier for me to just follow the professor. Once you get the fundamentals then its all about just new applications of those same rules.

SU1989 said:
Have you ever used those plastic molecular sets? Forgot what they are called I think it had a name
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We had to bring this to our test and the test question would be: "Build Blah. Use a ruler to measure the distance between C-# and blank" Write distance here:_______" Needless to say I bombed this question because I rounded up.

ozzi22 said:
what makes the upper divs more harder if you don't mind me asking?😀 too many papers?
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I think for the most part Upper Divisions haven't really been anymore difficult. I am generally interested in the upper divisions I take and its just a more detailed approach of stuff you already knew most of the time. This does not include all my UD classes....namely Chemical Biology and Advanced Immunology. Oh Boy. Best classes ever but intense. In my chemical biology class 50% of our grade was based on an original research proposal that we developed throughout the quarter. Advanced Immuno was just paper galore. I actually learned how to read immunology papers though and learned a ton about research methods.
 
SU1989 said:
Uh oh I am taking biochem this semester :scared:
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It just happens to be one of the most difficult courses at my school...that and cell bio. The test averages for cell bio are in the 20-30s 😱
 
Tatertots said:
Ochem ASL is awesome. I only used the part 1 though. Its good for the fundamentals but after the first quarter it was easier for me to just follow the professor. Once you get the fundamentals then its all about just new applications of those same rules.

definitely going to get the book asap

We had to bring this to our test and the test question would be: "Build Blah. Use a ruler to measure the distance between C-# and blank" Write distance here:_______" Needless to say I bombed this question because I rounded up.



I think for the most part Upper Divisions haven't really been anymore difficult. I am generally interested in the upper divisions I take and its just a more detailed approach of stuff you already knew most of the time. This does not include all my UD classes....namely Chemical Biology and Advanced Immunology. Oh Boy. Best classes ever but intense. In my chemical biology class 50% of our grade was based on an original research proposal that we developed throughout the quarter. Advanced Immuno was just paper galore. I actually learned how to read immunology papers though and learned a ton about research methods.
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woah immunology sounds like some serious business 😱
 
tman5890 said:
Just the material. It's way more in depth :laugh: Gotta know the most minute details. My friends that took biochem last year told me about remember everything single detail for the processes in cellular respiration and all the molecules along with it. There's a lot more stuff, but I can't exactly remember....You'll probably touch some of it in orgo.
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Sooooo at my school the second 5 weeks of our Biochem class is all pathways. Just pathway after pathway after pathway. Contrary to all the advice I received I did not learn them as we went. I had to lock myself away for 2 days and memorize pathways....I drew on mirrors....everywhere. Pathways became my life. I survived but this was probably the only time I was scared I was going to fail. We have to take Ochem here concurrently with Biochem(biochem is a core bio class) and I think it would have helped to finish ochem first.
 
tman5890 said:
It just happens to be one of the most difficult courses at my school...that and cell bio. The test averages for cell bio are in the 20-30s 😱
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Woah. Really? 20s and 30s? 😱 I took cell bio last semester and I think the class average was something like a 65.
 
Tatertots said:
Ochem ASL is awesome. I only used the part 1 though. Its good for the fundamentals but after the first quarter it was easier for me to just follow the professor. Once you get the fundamentals then its all about just new applications of those same rules.



We had to bring this to our test and the test question would be: "Build Blah. Use a ruler to measure the distance between C-# and blank" Write distance here:_______" Needless to say I bombed this question because I rounded up. That is lame



I think for the most part Upper Divisions haven't really been anymore difficult. I am generally interested in the upper divisions I take and its just a more detailed approach of stuff you already knew most of the time. This does not include all my UD classes....namely Chemical Biology and Advanced Immunology. Oh Boy. Best classes ever but intense. In my chemical biology class 50% of our grade was based on an original research proposal that we developed throughout the quarter. Advanced Immuno was just paper galore. I actually learned how to read immunology papers though and learned a ton about research methods.
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Sounds really awesome. I like that upper divs are more interesting, too.
 
ozzi22 said:
woah immunology sounds like some serious business 😱
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Haha this was our second quarter of immunology. Our intro immunology is rough but no papers. Since I am an Immunology & Micro major I took "Advanced Topics in Immunology" There were 11 students and 3 professors. Everyday someone presented a paper and we discussed it. It was awesome...I learned so much..but it was intense. I got a 96% and got an A- -_-
 
Tatertots said:
Sooooo at my school the second 5 weeks of our Biochem class is all pathways. Just pathway after pathway after pathway. Contrary to all the advice I received I did not learn them as we went. I had to lock myself away for 2 days and memorize pathways....I drew on mirrors....everywhere. Pathways became my life. I survived but this was probably the only time I was scared I was going to fail. We have to take Ochem here concurrently with Biochem(biochem is a core bio class) and I think it would have helped to finish ochem first.
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Sounds very similar to how it is at my school. I'm holding off on biochem for senior year...it's gonna suck, but at least everything else will be easier. No wonder you're killing the practice FLs...
 
SU1989 said:
Woah. Really? 20s and 30s? 😱 I took cell bio last semester and I think the class average was something like a 65.
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Yeah, the professor is really old and he continues to make the hardest tests ever...:scared:
 
Tatertots said:
Haha this was our second quarter of immunology. Our intro immunology is rough but no papers. Since I am an Immunology & Micro major I took "Advanced Topics in Immunology" There were 11 students and 3 professors. Everyday someone presented a paper and we discussed it. It was awesome...I learned so much..but it was intense. I got a 96% and got an A- -_-
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They bumped up the cutoff???
 
Tatertots said:
Haha this was our second quarter of immunology. Our intro immunology is rough but no papers. Since I am an Immunology & Micro major I took "Advanced Topics in Immunology" There were 11 students and 3 professors. Everyday someone presented a paper and we discussed it. It was awesome...I learned so much..but it was intense. I got a 96% and got an A- -_-
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Wtf??? That's insane! I had intro classes like that, but it's crazy for upper div 😱
 
ozzi22 said:
i did the same thing :laugh::laugh: it was definitely brutal. not going to happen again :laugh:
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Yeah, never again...until med school 😛 No wonder people in med school do so horribly on tests sometimes...Reading about their horror stories makes sense after taking a semester that heavy in sciences
 
Tatertots said:
Haha this was our second quarter of immunology. Our intro immunology is rough but no papers. Since I am an Immunology & Micro major I took "Advanced Topics in Immunology" There were 11 students and 3 professors. Everyday someone presented a paper and we discussed it. It was awesome...I learned so much..but it was intense. I got a 96% and got an A- -_-
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dang, you picked two of the most intense majors together. I commend you for handling the intensity of those classes very well. The mcat is going to be a breeze for you 🙂
 
SU1989 said:
Sounds exactly like my physio professor this semester. I was lucky to get away with a B
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Actually...the mammalian physio prof at my school teaches one of the intro classes and he's known to produce some of the lowest grades ever...and he's a mean SOB to boot 🙁
 
Tatertots said:
Yea. Needless to say I thought it was straight scale and had >100% before I went into the final. I didn't study for the final because I was not worried and super busy. Figured I had room to do bad. I was wrong.
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That's scary...:scared:
 
Tatertots said:
Yea. Needless to say I thought it was straight scale and had >100% before I went into the final. I didn't study for the final because I was not worried and super busy. Figured I had room to do bad. I was wrong.
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That's seriously some bs right there. I thought I had it bad with my gen chem lab professor who raised the cutoff to a 94. Getting an A- with a 96 is simply unfair. Retrograde curving (is that even a term?) should be illegal 😀
 
ozzi22 said:
dang, you picked two of the most intense majors together. I commend you for handling the intensity of those classes very well. The mcat is going to be a breeze for you 🙂
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He's getting a 44T...it's gonna be legend...wait for it DAIRY! Legendary!
 
tman5890 said:
Yeah, never again...until med school 😛 No wonder people in med school do so horribly on tests sometimes...Reading about their horror stories makes sense after taking a semester that heavy in sciences
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It clearly was my fault when my advisor insisted that i would not take more than two science classes and i was all like "no worries, it's not like i have a job. i can handle this" then my grades were out, i kept avoiding my advisor :laugh:
 
SU1989 said:
That's seriously some bs right there. I thought I had it bad with my gen chem lab professor who raised the cutoff to a 94. Getting an A- with a 96 is simply unfair. Retrograde curving (is that even a term?) should be illegal 😀
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Some of my classes had 99 for A and 96 for A-...it was crazy 😡
 
SU1989 said:
That's seriously some bs right there. I thought I had it bad with my gen chem lab professor who raised the cutoff to a 94. Getting an A- with a 96 is simply unfair. Retrograde curving (is that even a term?) should be illegal 😀
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Haha. Its ok. I was happy. I learned a TON from that class and my other grades made up for my A-.

tman5890 said:
He's getting a 44T...it's gonna be legend...wait for it DAIRY! Legendary!
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You expect too much.
 
ozzi22 said:
It clearly was my fault when my advisor insisted that i would not take more than two science classes and i was all like "no worries, it's not like i have a job. i can handle this" then my grades were out, i kept avoiding my advisor :laugh:
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It's crazy how similar we are :laugh: The same thing happened to me. The advisor said to drop one of my classes for a humanities course or something, but I didn't listen. Gonna listen to her next time :laugh:
 
Tatertots said:
Haha. Its ok. I was happy. I learned a TON from that class and my other grades made up for my A-.



You expect too much.
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Lies! You must meet my expectations or surpass them! Thanks 😛
 
SU1989 said:
Huh, maybe all physio professors are like that. Because "mean SOB" defines my professor to a T.

Having said that, I think the guy liked me. He gave me a B even though my average was around a 60 😎
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I hate when I miss the cutoff grade for a class by like half a percent and the prof won't cut you some slack...Just happens that it happened in all my classes last semester and none of the profs helped me out 🙁
 
tman5890 said:
I hate when I miss the cutoff grade for a class by like half a percent and the prof won't cut you some slack...Just happens that it happened in all my classes last semester and none of the profs helped me out 🙁
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Me too! Had a 92 in physics I after the curve and the cutoff was 92.5. I had a good long debate with myself whether I should go and lobby for a grade. In the end I decided not to. Ended up with an A- 😳
 
tman5890 said:
I hate when I miss the cutoff grade for a class by like half a percent and the prof won't cut you some slack...Just happens that it happened in all my classes last semester and none of the profs helped me out 🙁
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That's just mean. maybe they know you are premed and they are just hating. As silly as it may sound, some professors at my school hate premeds and intentionally don't cut them slack on their grades that's why i don't announce myself as premed in my school.😱
 
SU1989 said:
Me too! Had a 92 in physics I after the curve and the cutoff was 92.5. I had a good long debate with myself whether I should go and lobby for a grade. In the end I decided not to. Ended up with an A- 😳
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man, i would have gone 😀
 
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