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Sunflower,

Even if you don't like them, you have to admit the hot girls are attention grabbing!

Are you finishing up pre-reqs this semester? I'm curious how you are so calm about your GPA for the next few semesters! 😱 It would depend on how much time the scribing requires and how much time you think you could devote to it...it sounds pretty cool.

I'm doing biochem research on fungal enzymes...My mentor is most of the brainpower behind it, but I still find it really enjoyable. Have you started any research?
 
Venom5 said:
eh this semester will suck... whats ur major?
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I'm a Biology and Pre-Health major...technically a double major, but most courses overlap. My big classes this semester are Orgo II and Physics II. Along with Plant Form and Function.

PS-I gave the thread 5 stars, so keep those pictures coming. :naughty:
Besides, it makes us look cooler.
 
KnightofBaldMt said:
Sunflower,

Even if you don't like them, you have to admit the hot girls are attention grabbing!

Are you finishing up pre-reqs this semester? I'm curious how you are so calm about your GPA for the next few semesters! 😱 It would depend on how much time the scribing requires and how much time you think you could devote to it...it sounds pretty cool.

I'm doing biochem research on fungal enzymes...My mentor is most of the brainpower behind it, but I still find it really enjoyable. Have you started any research?
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Hahaha, I suppose!

No, not quite. After this year, I will still have Physics 2, Bio 2, and Biochem left to complete, although I am taking the MCAT this summer. Hopefully I can sufficiently self study all of those things.

As for the calmness, haha, maybe I shouldn't be. But I currently have a 3.98 cGPA and 4.0 sGPA, so even if I see a slight decrease over the next few semesters, I should still be able to have ~3.9 by the time I apply (hopefully higher but you never know). Of course, I could be totally wrong and just get a slew of Bs and Cs in the next three semesters, in which case I'll feel pretty embarrassed for being calm, but my hope is that my performance thus far will at least be somewhat indicative of my future performance. Besides, I've planned it so that my junior year is lightish, because that's when I was planning on starting scribing. So we'll see! Hopefully I don't end up eating my words. I'm definitely not trying to be cocky about it or anything, just trying to keep my cool and not be neurotic 🙂 👍

Scribing is 2-3 8 hour shifts a week. I definitely want to do it at some point, but I was hoping to start at the end of this summer. We'll see, though -- it might be best to not have to worry about training while I study for the MCAT.

That's awesome that you like your research!! Very cool. I haven't taken biochem yet, but I'm really excited for it. I have done (and am doing) some research, yeah. Last summer, after freshman year, I worked fulltime doing neuro-oncology research, which was really cool as my two main interests are neuroscience and oncology. I had a lot of autonomy, so that was awesome and surprising since I had zero experience going in. I'm involved with cognitive neuroscience research at school, and I'm hoping to start my own project this semester if I don't scribe or next year if I start scribing this year. On that same trend, if I don't end up scribing this semester and summer, I will do clinical neuroscience research this upcoming summer while studying for the MCAT.
 
sunflower18 said:
No, not quite. After this year, I will still have Physics 2, Bio 2, and Biochem left to complete, although I am taking the MCAT this summer. Hopefully I can sufficiently self study all of those things.

As for the calmness, haha, maybe I shouldn't be. But I currently have a 3.98 cGPA and 4.0 sGPA, so even if I see a slight decrease over the next few semesters, I should still be able to have ~3.9 by the time I apply (hopefully higher but you never know). Of course, I could be totally wrong and just get a slew of Bs and Cs in the next three semesters, in which case I'll feel pretty embarrassed for being calm, but my hope is that my performance thus far will at least be somewhat indicative of my future performance. Besides, I've planned it so that my junior year is lightish, because that's when I was planning on starting scribing. So we'll see! Hopefully I don't end up eating my words. I'm definitely not trying to be cocky about it or anything, just trying to keep my cool and not be neurotic 🙂 👍

Scribing is 2-3 8 hour shifts a week. I definitely want to do it at some point, but I was hoping to start at the end of this summer. We'll see, though -- it might be best to not have to worry about training while I study for the MCAT.

That's awesome that you like your research!! Very cool. I haven't taken biochem yet, but I'm really excited for it. I have done (and am doing) some research, yeah. Last summer, after freshman year, I worked fulltime doing neuro-oncology research, which was really cool as my two main interests are neuroscience and oncology. I had a lot of autonomy, so that was awesome and surprising since I had zero experience going in. I'm involved with cognitive neuroscience research at school, and I'm hoping to start my own project this semester if I don't scribe or next year if I start scribing this year. On that same trend, if I don't end up scribing this semester and summer, I will do clinical neuroscience research this upcoming summer while studying for the MCAT.
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Yeah, Biochem is on my list for next year too. Probably A&P too. Are you (or anyone else) thinking of taking A&P before you take the MCAT? I've heard its helpful. I can't imagine taking the MCAT before those classes! I hope you study hard.

Haha your stats are better than mine! 😳 I have a cGPA of 3.7 and a sGPA of 3.8. I'm still doing that upward trend thing... I had originally planned to be in for six semesters, but I went ahead and decided to do eight.

The scribing job sounds like a good experience, one that you shouldn't pass up....Go for it!

My school is pretty small, but I love my professor for research. I haven't taken Biochem and she is just teaching me it bits and pieces in the lab! I'm so lucky. How do you plan on doing your summer research?
 
If I get a research internship for the summer, I probably won't be studying/taking the MCAT over the summer as planned. Maybe that's better? I've also heard biochem and other supplemental courses may help out a decent amount.
 
KnightofBaldMt said:
Yeah, Biochem is on my list for next year too. Probably A&P too. Are you (or anyone else) thinking of taking A&P before you take the MCAT? I've heard its helpful. I can't imagine taking the MCAT before those classes! I hope you study hard.

Haha your stats are better than mine! 😳 I have a cGPA of 3.7 and a sGPA of 3.8. I'm still doing that upward trend thing... I had originally planned to be in for six semesters, but I went ahead and decided to do eight.

The scribing job sounds like a good experience, one that you shouldn't pass up....Go for it!

My school is pretty small, but I love my professor for research. I haven't taken Biochem and she is just teaching me it bits and pieces in the lab! I'm so lucky. How do you plan on doing your summer research?
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At my school, Anatomy and Physiology are separate classes and both have two labs a week. They are required for a really popular major, so they always fill. I probably won't end up being able to take them until I'm a senior. However, I took A&P in high school, and I plan on using a course from The Great Courses DVD series to study them again. I have another set for Physics 2 material. I'm planning on studying for three months, 40-50 hours a week. Hope that's enough!!

Your stats are still really good!! No worries at all at all.

As for scribing, I will definitely do it -- I'm just not sure if I'll do it in a month or hope that they contact me again in like 9 months, haha.

That's great! What an awesome mentor. I am doing my summer research through my state medical school, which is not affiliated with my undergrad. I love it! I sometimes wonder if it'd have been better if I was applying to SURFs and SURPs and all that jazz, but if I can get positions that are local and allow me to live at home, I think I'd prefer that. I'm really close with my family and want to spend summers at home with them until I move off to medical school 😳

Stumpyman said:
If I get a research internship for the summer, I probably won't be studying/taking the MCAT over the summer as planned. Maybe that's better? I've also heard biochem and other supplemental courses may help out a decent amount.
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That makes sense. Having a fulltime job while studying for the MCAT would be stressful. I plan to work 20 hours a week maximum while studying this summer.

The debate over whether having more time or having taken more classes while studying was The Great Dilemma Of Winter Break 2012 for me. My parents/boyfriend were so tired of hearing me just babble about pros and cons and making eighty different schedules. I finally decided that I would personally rather have more time to study, and these were my reasons (maybe they'll help you in your decision):

- I feel somewhat confident in my ability to self teach material. Like I mentioned earlier, I haven't finished my pre-reqs, so that's kind of risky. But for me, it came down to what I think I could do better -- self teach, or be disciplined enough to study for the MCAT while in school. I'd prefer self teaching material to double studying, but that's just me. This was indeed tricky, though, as the thought of waiting a year and having two more bio courses, physics 2, and biochem under my belt before testing is tempting.

- I want to scribe, but I refuse to scribe+study for MCAT+be in school fulltime+be involved with research and other ECs. Too much. I knew that if I pushed my MCAT to junior year second semester, I wouldn't be able to scribe until senior year based on this self imposed rule. Since I really want to start before I apply, that was not going to work for me.

- If I take it this summer, I have time to retake, and I can retake having those additional science classes done. Obviously I'd prefer to only take the test once, but you never know what could happen. The thought of taking the MCAT in April or May, getting an awful score, and then having my application either be late or my cycle delayed a whole year was terrifying, especially since the cycle after ours has to deal with both MCATs being in play. No thanks!!

But, at the end of the day, you have to make the decision that you feel would help you get the best possible score. If you don't think studying while doing research fulltime and living in a different city (if a faraway REU or SURF or something) and trying to make friends is a good idea, you're probably right. You want to maximize how well you think you can do. I had to try to find a balance between "enough time to study" and "enough classes taken", and I couldn't really find one so I went with the lesser of two evils. Sounds like your "enough time to study" and "enough classes taken" might be one and the same, in which case you should study junior year.

Sorry for the long post! I just recently went through this and agonized over it, so hopefully my ramblings were somewhat helpful.
 
sunflower18 said:
At my school, Anatomy and Physiology are separate classes and both have two labs a week. They are required for a really popular major, so they always fill. I probably won't end up being able to take them until I'm a senior. However, I took A&P in high school, and I plan on using a course from The Great Courses DVD series to study them again. I have another set for Physics 2 material. I'm planning on studying for three months, 40-50 hours a week. Hope that's enough!!

Your stats are still really good!! No worries at all at all.

As for scribing, I will definitely do it -- I'm just not sure if I'll do it in a month or hope that they contact me again in like 9 months, haha.

That's great! What an awesome mentor. I am doing my summer research through my state medical school, which is not affiliated with my undergrad. I love it! I sometimes wonder if it'd have been better if I was applying to SURFs and SURPs and all that jazz, but if I can get positions that are local and allow me to live at home, I think I'd prefer that. I'm really close with my family and want to spend summers at home with them until I move off to medical school 😳



That makes sense. Having a fulltime job while studying for the MCAT would be stressful. I plan to work 20 hours a week maximum while studying this summer.

The debate over whether having more time or having taken more classes while studying was The Great Dilemma Of Winter Break 2012 for me. My parents/boyfriend were so tired of hearing me just babble about pros and cons and making eighty different schedules. I finally decided that I would personally rather have more time to study, and these were my reasons (maybe they'll help you in your decision):

- I feel somewhat confident in my ability to self teach material. Like I mentioned earlier, I haven't finished my pre-reqs, so that's kind of risky. But for me, it came down to what I think I could do better -- self teach, or be disciplined enough to study for the MCAT while in school. I'd prefer self teaching material to double studying, but that's just me. This was indeed tricky, though, as the thought of waiting a year and having two more bio courses, physics 2, and biochem under my belt before testing is tempting.

- I want to scribe, but I refuse to scribe+study for MCAT+be in school fulltime+be involved with research and other ECs. Too much. I knew that if I pushed my MCAT to junior year second semester, I wouldn't be able to scribe until senior year based on this self imposed rule. Since I really want to start before I apply, that was not going to work for me.

- If I take it this summer, I have time to retake, and I can retake having those additional science classes done. Obviously I'd prefer to only take the test once, but you never know what could happen. The thought of taking the MCAT in April or May, getting an awful score, and then having my application either be late or my cycle delayed a whole year was terrifying, especially since the cycle after ours has to deal with both MCATs being in play. No thanks!!

But, at the end of the day, you have to make the decision that you feel would help you get the best possible score. If you don't think studying while doing research fulltime and living in a different city (if a faraway REU or SURF or something) and trying to make friends is a good idea, you're probably right. You want to maximize how well you think you can do. I had to try to find a balance between "enough time to study" and "enough classes taken", and I couldn't really find one so I went with the lesser of two evils. Sounds like your "enough time to study" and "enough classes taken" might be one and the same, in which case you should study junior year.

Sorry for the long post! I just recently went through this and agonized over it, so hopefully my ramblings were somewhat helpful.
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That's actually a really good insight! Thanks; I definitely went through a similar thought process for when to take the MCAT. Truth be told, I'd love to dedicate a summer to it, but I really need/want research experience (although, if some kind of miracle strikes and I get a part-time research gig at my college for the summer, that'd allow me to do still take the MCAT in the summer-- although the internship still has its many appeals).

I decided to try and make a fairly "easy" schedule for next Spring (Jan-March/April), which includes a very light course load (12ish not so terrible credits, along with 8-15 hours/wk of work somewhere-- hopefully research). Not ideal, but I think I could make it work. 🙂
 
Stumpyman said:
That's actually a really good insight! Thanks; I definitely went through a similar thought process for when to take the MCAT. Truth be told, I'd love to dedicate a summer to it, but I really need/want research experience (although, if some kind of miracle strikes and I get a part-time research gig at my college for the summer, that'd allow me to do still take the MCAT in the summer-- although the internship still has its many appeals).

I decided to try and make a fairly "easy" schedule for next Spring (Jan-March/April), which includes a very light course load (12ish not so terrible credits, along with 8-15 hours/wk of work somewhere-- hopefully research). Not ideal, but I think I could make it work. 🙂
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I definitely see where you are coming from, and I think I would do exactly what you are doing if I had the same situation. What kind of research are you hoping to get involved with?
 
silverturtle said:
why thank you! Debating whether it's worth it to read this entire thread...thoughts on this?
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No lol, a lot of this is post pad anyway. I wonder if the 2019 thread will be more active from now on because we progressing through college. I hope so!
 
Josh7 said:
It is most definitely not worth the time to read this entire thread :laugh:
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I didn't read the whole thread either....just looked back to see how far venom's picture posts were :laugh:

Yeah, I'm definitely ready for this semester, but it does cut out time for other things.
 
And if we're gonna post pics of people, might as well put some good ones...

Such as this

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:naughty:
 
Hello to all of you considering going to medical school. I just want to throw a little bit of information out there for those of you considering letting the military pay for school in exchange for a specified term of service. The reason I am taking time out of my day to post this information is that it is being kept secret / not advertized, and every single person contemplating the military should know about it.

Big Items:
1) The Army is forcing Attending Physicians in subspecialty fields (rheumatology, dermatology, radiology, cardiology, and others) to fill primary care positions and be out of their primary field for 2-3 years in order to fill a shortage. For those of you not in medicine, it is like someone forcing you to take a 2-3 year break from your pre-medical studies to do something unrelated. You will forget a lot of what you trained hard to know how to do. A cardiologst not doing cardiology for 3 years? Nuts, and wrong.

2) The leadership of the military medical corps are increasingly nurses or non practicing physicians. All the practicing physicians get out, so they are all that is left. I'll let you decide what that means. (Hint: Its like having a golfer coach a football team).

3) All services are forcing persons into primary care without residency training for 2-3 years if they do not match. This is around 25% of persons. That means effectively you will be 4 years out of medical school before doing a residency and being a real doctor. If you don't understand this, effectively you lose hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result--enough to pay for medical school.

4) Increasingly the bad doctors stay and good doctors leave, as the services do not seem to care about treating them correctly, and with respect.

I am currently writing a book that explains everything about military medicine, some good things, and some bad things, and some day soon will publish it. Until then, I hope you both understand what I have said and let your friends know.

For the recruiters on the forum, you could explain to the leadership that these moves, especially #1, are short-sighted, and should discourage persons from joining or staying.
 
USAFDoc1 said:
Hello to all of you considering going to medical school. I just want to throw a little bit of information out there for those of you considering letting the military pay for school in exchange for a specified term of service. The reason I am taking time out of my day to post this information is that it is being kept secret / not advertized, and every single person contemplating the military should know about it.

Big Items:
1) The Army is forcing Attending Physicians in subspecialty fields (rheumatology, dermatology, radiology, cardiology, and others) to fill primary care positions and be out of their primary field for 2-3 years in order to fill a shortage. For those of you not in medicine, it is like someone forcing you to take a 2-3 year break from your pre-medical studies to do something unrelated. You will forget a lot of what you trained hard to know how to do. A cardiologst not doing cardiology for 3 years? Nuts, and wrong.

2) The leadership of the military medical corps are increasingly nurses or non practicing physicians. All the practicing physicians get out, so they are all that is left. I'll let you decide what that means. (Hint: Its like having a golfer coach a football team).

3) All services are forcing persons into primary care without residency training for 2-3 years if they do not match. This is around 25% of persons. That means effectively you will be 4 years out of medical school before doing a residency and being a real doctor. If you don't understand this, effectively you lose hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result--enough to pay for medical school.

4) Increasingly the bad doctors stay and good doctors leave, as the services do not seem to care about treating them correctly, and with respect.

I am currently writing a book that explains everything about military medicine, some good things, and some bad things, and some day soon will publish it. Until then, I hope you both understand what I have said and let your friends know.

For the recruiters on the forum, you could explain to the leadership that these moves, especially #1, are short-sighted, and should discourage persons from joining or staying.
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on a serious note thanks for posting this.. how do we know this is reliable?
 
USAFDoc1 said:
Hello to all of you considering going to medical school. I just want to throw a little bit of information out there for those of you considering letting the military pay for school in exchange for a specified term of service. The reason I am taking time out of my day to post this information is that it is being kept secret / not advertized, and every single person contemplating the military should know about it.

Big Items:
1) The Army is forcing Attending Physicians in subspecialty fields (rheumatology, dermatology, radiology, cardiology, and others) to fill primary care positions and be out of their primary field for 2-3 years in order to fill a shortage. For those of you not in medicine, it is like someone forcing you to take a 2-3 year break from your pre-medical studies to do something unrelated. You will forget a lot of what you trained hard to know how to do. A cardiologst not doing cardiology for 3 years? Nuts, and wrong.

2) The leadership of the military medical corps are increasingly nurses or non practicing physicians. All the practicing physicians get out, so they are all that is left. I'll let you decide what that means. (Hint: Its like having a golfer coach a football team).

3) All services are forcing persons into primary care without residency training for 2-3 years if they do not match. This is around 25% of persons. That means effectively you will be 4 years out of medical school before doing a residency and being a real doctor. If you don't understand this, effectively you lose hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result--enough to pay for medical school.

4) Increasingly the bad doctors stay and good doctors leave, as the services do not seem to care about treating them correctly, and with respect.

I am currently writing a book that explains everything about military medicine, some good things, and some bad things, and some day soon will publish it. Until then, I hope you both understand what I have said and let your friends know.

For the recruiters on the forum, you could explain to the leadership that these moves, especially #1, are short-sighted, and should discourage persons from joining or staying.
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Interesting. These are definitively some legitiment concerns but why did you decide to post in in the Class of 2019 thread, lol
 
USAFDoc1 said:
Hello to all of you considering going to medical school. I just want to throw a little bit of information out there for those of you considering letting the military pay for school in exchange for a specified term of service. The reason I am taking time out of my day to post this information is that it is being kept secret / not advertized, and every single person contemplating the military should know about it.

Big Items:
1) The Army is forcing Attending Physicians in subspecialty fields (rheumatology, dermatology, radiology, cardiology, and others) to fill primary care positions and be out of their primary field for 2-3 years in order to fill a shortage. For those of you not in medicine, it is like someone forcing you to take a 2-3 year break from your pre-medical studies to do something unrelated. You will forget a lot of what you trained hard to know how to do. A cardiologst not doing cardiology for 3 years? Nuts, and wrong.

2) The leadership of the military medical corps are increasingly nurses or non practicing physicians. All the practicing physicians get out, so they are all that is left. I'll let you decide what that means. (Hint: Its like having a golfer coach a football team).

3) All services are forcing persons into primary care without residency training for 2-3 years if they do not match. This is around 25% of persons. That means effectively you will be 4 years out of medical school before doing a residency and being a real doctor. If you don't understand this, effectively you lose hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result--enough to pay for medical school.

4) Increasingly the bad doctors stay and good doctors leave, as the services do not seem to care about treating them correctly, and with respect.

I am currently writing a book that explains everything about military medicine, some good things, and some bad things, and some day soon will publish it. Until then, I hope you both understand what I have said and let your friends know.

For the recruiters on the forum, you could explain to the leadership that these moves, especially #1, are short-sighted, and should discourage persons from joining or staying.
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Thanks for letting us know! I personally do not plan on joining the military, but I will direct anyone I know who is considering it to this post 👍
 
I keep having dreams it's like April and getting all excited cause the semester is almost over, and then waking up to have the whole darn thing left 🙁
 
Have a meeting to talk to someone about getting a meeting with a research adviser, who will hopefully get me a meeting with a PI to start some research soon.
 
Stumpyman said:
Have a meeting to talk to someone about getting a meeting with a research adviser, who will hopefully get me a meeting with a PI to start some research soon.
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Wow that sounds like quite the process!!
 
Stumpyman said:
Have a meeting to talk to someone about getting a meeting with a research adviser, who will hopefully get me a meeting with a PI to start some research soon.
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Well good luck!!!

I thought the military thing was interesting...I have considered it before, but I'd have to drop a few pounds before medical school... :laugh: But really, I would like to know if that tangent was reliable or not...I would like to know a lot more about what the Air Force offers to its physicians, rather than what Army doesn't.
 
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