classes that count toward bcpm??

[AerobixChica]

hey guys! so i was thinking of taking some upper level bio classes during my application year, so that if I need to apply again my bcpm will be higher. I was wondering if all classes that start with "bio" are included...like bio ethics, human biology (those 2 are actually not upper level.. I believe they are 100 levels) I am definitely taking medical microbio and A&P (which are upper) but thought some others sounded interesting as well. Although, if they wont count towards increasing my sGPA, i dont want to throw away the money. Any input would be great!! Thanks

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[AdmiralChz]

Yeah if it starts with bio, then it will definitely count. I took human bio and it is included in my bcpm, good booster for it.

 

[WiseGuy1]

If you have any questions about a specific course counting or not, does anyone know if you can contact AMCAS to double check before enrolling in a class?

 

[chad5871]

bio ethics - not BCPM
human biology - BCPM
medical microbio - BCPM
A&P - BCPM

 

[Neuronix]

Depends on the department offering it. If it's crosslisted with Biology or offered by Biology, it counts. If it's wholly offered by another department that is not Biology (or chem or physics or math), it doesn't.

 

[lrkoehle]

Depends on the department offering it. If it's crosslisted with Biology or offered by Biology, it counts. If it's wholly offered by another department that is not Biology (or chem or physics or math), it doesn't.

I hope this is not true. I took Neuroanatomy last semester, and it is not crossed listed in the Bio department but it was definitely an anatomy class. It better count.

 

[Neuronix]

I dunno if it's changed since I applied. I had courses like that that were offered by the psychology department but were not crosslisted and thus did not count. Kind of a bummer eh? Don't take my word on this one though, it's kind of a gray area.

 

[chad5871]

Just list it as where you think it fits best on AMCAS. If they think that it needs to be changed, they'll change it. It's no big deal if they change a course classification.

 

[RySerr21]

Depends on the department offering it. If it's crosslisted with Biology or offered by Biology, it counts. If it's wholly offered by another department that is not Biology (or chem or physics or math), it doesn't.

I hope this is not true. I took Neuroanatomy last semester, and it is not crossed listed in the Bio department but it was definitely an anatomy class. It better count.

This is incorrect. My kinesiology courses were not crosslisted with Biology, nor were they offered by Biology. Courses like Human Anatomy (both semesters) and Human Physiology. They all counted towards my BCPM. Its the content, not the department. If my school didnt have a kines department then the bio department would offer them, its still the same class. Neuroanatomy will count towards your BCPM, just list at as "BIOL" when you enter in your courses and you'll be fine.

 

[Neuronix]

I'm glad they changed that When I applied it was the second year of electronic AMCAS Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

This is incorrect. My kinesiology courses were not crosslisted with Biology, nor were they offered by Biology. Courses like Human Anatomy (both semesters) and Human Physiology. They all counted towards my BCPM. Its the content, not the department. If my school didnt have a kines department then the bio department would offer them, its still the same class. Neuroanatomy will count towards your BCPM, just list at as "BIOL" when you enter in your courses and you'll be fine.

AMCAS says that Kinesiology classes are not BCPM. Wonder if you slipped under the radar on that one...

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[Neuronix]

What's it say for Neurobiology out of curiosity? I've seen the list and it has Neuroscience under Biology. The gray area was always when the course in question wasn't offered by the Biology department (BIOL). In my day if it didn't have a BIOL next to it, it wasn't BCPM. I'm curious if that really changed or not.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

What's it say for Neurobiology out of curiosity? I've seen the list and it has Neuroscience under Biology. The gray area was always when the course in question wasn't offered by the Biology department (BIOL). In my day if it didn't have a BIOL next to it, it wasn't BCPM. I'm curious if that really changed or not.

Here's the list.

Course Classification

Each course must be assigned a course classification based entirely on the primary content of the course. See the listing of course classification examples below for guidance in selecting Course Classifications. The Course Classifications below are bolded, and are titled as they appear in the Course Classification drop-down list. Click each Course Classification to open a list of example courses for that classification. The bulleted items beneath each bolded Course Classification are examples of courses for which you should select that bolded Course Classification. You are responsible for selecting the correct Course Classification. However, AMCAS reserves the right to change Course Classifications if the assigned Course Classification clearly does not apply. AMCAS is not responsible for any processing delays or incorrect GPA calculations resulting from incorrect Course Classifications. In addition, AMCAS will not make corrections to course classifications based on information that becomes available after you submit your application.

Course Classifications, in addition to describing the courses you enter, are used in the calculation of your AMCAS GPA. On the list of Course Classification examples below, Course Classifications that are followed by "BCPM" indicate that courses for which you choose this Course Classification will be calculated in your BCPM GPA. The BCPM GPA is comprised of courses, which are considered to be Biology, Chemistry, Physics, and Mathematics courses. Course Classifications that are not followed by "BCPM" indicate that courses for which you choose this Course Classification will be calculated in your AO (All Other) GPA.


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· Anthropology

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· Anatomy

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[chad5871]

What's it say for Neurobiology out of curiosity? I've seen the list and it has Neuroscience under Biology. The gray area was always when the course in question wasn't offered by the Biology department (BIOL). In my day if it didn't have a BIOL next to it, it wasn't BCPM. I'm curious if that really changed or not.

Yeah, they did. These are the courses I listed as BCPM that weren't under the "BIOL" course heading:

Listed under "Biology":
FRSC 101 - Forensic Science I
LFSC 101 - Introduction to Life Science
FRSC 350 - Survey of Forensic Science
FRSC 492 - Forensic Science Independent Study
FRSC 438 - Forensic Molecular Biology and Lab
FRSC 309 - Scientific Crime Scene Investigation and Lab
FRSC 365 - Forensic Microscopy and Lab
FRSC 385 - Forensic Serology and Lab

They didn't change any of my course classifications.

 

[redlight]

wow this question gets asked a lot (bcpm or not?). use the :search: function please!

but a general rule of thumb is if the class is 60% bcpm then it counts.

 

[AerobixChica]

thanks for all the info..i posted this not because i didnt know that bio classes count towards bcpm, but specific classes under the bio name. Bioethics is a bio class, but apparently does not count towards bcpm..good to know and glad i asked! thanks

 

[RySerr21]

AMCAS says that Kinesiology classes are not BCPM. Wonder if you slipped under the radar on that one...

kinesiology courses such as Exercise physiology, or biomechanics, or Nutrition, etc etc. do not count...you are correct. But the courses that are strictly human biology based such as anatomy and physiology courses, THOSE count. None of my other kinesiology courses counted though.

 

[chad5871]

thanks for all the info..i posted this not because i didnt know that bio classes count towards bcpm, but specific classes under the bio name. Bioethics is a bio class, but apparently does not count towards bcpm..good to know and glad i asked! thanks

Is it taught under the Biology department? My bioethics course was taught under the Philosophy department.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

Is it taught under the Biology department? My bioethics course was taught under the Philosophy department.

Exactly. Bioethics in the Bio dept. counts towards BCPM, I think.

 

[AerobixChica]

yep its under the bio dept...bio100 something..so if it starts with bio its bcpm, even if its not a science class, like ethics?

 

[redlight]

wow, no no no!

the name of the department does not matter. what matters is the course content. if it is 60% bio chem physics or math, then it usually is bcpm. bioethics is an ethics course, not bcpm

 

[redlight]

essentially the question is: "is 60% of the course material biological science?"

 

[redlight]

thanks for all the info..i posted this not because i didnt know that bio classes count towards bcpm, but specific classes under the bio name. Bioethics is a bio class, but apparently does not count towards bcpm..good to know and glad i asked! thanks

and i wasnt going to respond to this comment but i need to get my post count up..

i understood you correctly; i said you were asking "bcpm or not?" as in "will this class be counted as bcpm or not." i wasn't questioning whether or not if you knew bio was bcpm (every premed should know that, methinks).

 

[AerobixChica]

and i wasnt going to respond to this comment but i need to get my post count up..

i understood you correctly; i said you were asking "bcpm or not?" as in "will this class be counted as bcpm or not." i wasn't questioning whether or not if you knew bio was bcpm (every premed should know that, methinks).

your post count is pretty high already...ull be over that 1000 in no time!

thanks for clarifying the percentage. I was getting mixed info from different people. I had asked an advisor who wasnt even sure..i know...anyways

i did search and found lots of generic posts about it. I knew the others were bcpm, just wasnt sure about the bioethics or human bio (since its so close to intro bio)...so thats why i asked. Isnt that what these forums are for! sorry if it bothered u

 

[redlight]

nope, doesnt bother me at all. if it did i wouldnt have opened the thread

haha well i say use the search function because ive responded to threads like this in the past and i think my answers were pretty good lol

(853..)

 

[AerobixChica]

glad to hear it! and if you respond to this you'll be at 855!!!!!

 

[redlight]

lol i hope you're not mocking me.. (857)

 

[lrkoehle]

essentially the question is: "is 60% of the course material biological science?"

Does this mean that it is pretty much up to us how we want to classify a particular course? If I could argue a particular class was 60% of a given science then I can list it how I see fit? That seems nice. I guess I should look at my classes and see if there are any A's I could argue as being science classes

 

[eyang22286]

you want to look on AMCAS and check specifically on the list of classes they have that count towards your BCPM GPA. some of the biochemistry/biology classes offered at my undergrad (UCSD) did not count towards my BCPM, so you gotta check to make sure. it's sometimes a tricky system

 

[redlight]

you can TRY to list it as bcpm but amcas does check to make sure everything is listed correctly. id ask the premed advisers/previous applicants at your school to see if amcas has accepted w/e class in question as bcpm in the past. i think inconsistencies slow down the time it takes to verify and process your primary app noticably [speculation].

 

[Anotherface]

The thread title is misleading