cleveland clinic general surgery

[fireflyrxn]

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hi guys

i've noticed that a lot of people have ranked the top ten surgical residencies at all the typical places (mgh, hopkins, duke, etc)

but i was wondering why the cleveland clinic, which is always ranked in the us news top hospitals, doesn't seem to be coming up as a good place to do a surgical residency?

cheers
fireflyrxn

 

[SoulRFlare]

I'm not by any means an expert on this--but one possible reason is the Clinic is not a level one trauma center, so you will not get the trauma experience you need unless you do "rotations" elswhere in the city.

 

[RedBlanket]

CC is brillilant in many of the surgical subs, but is driven by the subspecialties somewhat to the exclusion of g.surg. Not a brilliant program for g.surg but it might be solid, not too sure. I do know that I never ran into any g.surg advisers who would recommend it up with major academic centers. (Vs say Urology at CC which I've heard is #1)

 

[fireflyrxn]

but i mean...MGH isn't a level 1 trauma center either?

 

[halogen]

The Cleveland Clinic is the #1 hospital for heart/cardiac surgery, according to US News annual rankings

 

[sandg]

Pure speculation on my part, but maybe it has something to do with resident autonomy. Isn't the CCF a private enterprise? If so the majority of patients are probably heading to the Clinic to be treated by well-known attendings, thus limiting resident involvement.

 

[pdiddy]

cleveland clinic, much like the mayo clinic, is a attending/fellow directed environment, which can lead to overshadowing the general surgery residency education. you can still receive amazing training at either, but the cleveland clinic is not really a research based/teaching hospital, rather it is a clinical factory and thus an amazing environment for a fellow.