Clinical Experience Question

[ndt7485]

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Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding clinical experience I was hoping someone would be able to help answer. I've been working as a clinical support analyst in the IT department for a small hospital for the last couple of years. My day to day tasks include working with doctors to create their order sets and documentation templates, teaching them how to use the EMR and PACS systems, and occasionally be in the rooms with the patients to help them navigate the EMR (especially with new users). I also work closely with nursing staff on the same EMR in creating their flow charts and electronic forms for charting. Additionally, I help patients (in person and through phone) create and access their hospital patient portal accounts.
Do any if those tasks considered clinical?
Thank you

 

[Magus5454]

Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding clinical experience I was hoping someone would be able to help answer. I've been working as a clinical support analyst in the IT department for a small hospital for the last couple of years. My day to day tasks include working with doctors to create their order sets and documentation templates, teaching them how to use the EMR and PACS systems, and occasionally be in the rooms with the patients to help them navigate the EMR (especially with new users). I also work closely with nursing staff on the same EMR in creating their flow charts and electronic forms for charting. Additionally, I help patients (in person and through phone) create and access their hospital patient portal accounts.
Do any if those tasks considered clinical?
Thank you

My opinion is no. You are not directly involved in patient care

 

[Angus Avagadro]

No, not to me. Agree with Magus.

 

[baseballfan46]

Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding clinical experience I was hoping someone would be able to help answer. I've been working as a clinical support analyst in the IT department for a small hospital for the last couple of years. My day to day tasks include working with doctors to create their order sets and documentation templates, teaching them how to use the EMR and PACS systems, and occasionally be in the rooms with the patients to help them navigate the EMR (especially with new users). I also work closely with nursing staff on the same EMR in creating their flow charts and electronic forms for charting. Additionally, I help patients (in person and through phone) create and access their hospital patient portal accounts.
Do any if those tasks considered clinical?
Thank you

As Ive seen in these forums, "If you can smell the patient, then it should count as clinical experience."

 

[ndt7485]

As Ive seen in these forums, "If you can smell the patient, then it should count as clinical experience."

Thank you for everyone's responses. And in fact I do "smell the patients" haha. I spend about 2 hours a day on the floor with nurses and doctors and their patients.

Does my experience count as shadowing?

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[Chibucks15]

Thank you for everyone's responses. And in fact I do "smell the patients" haha. I spend about 2 hours a day on the floor with nurses and doctors and their patients.

Does my experience count as shadowing?

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I wouldn't think so because you aren't actually doing anything related to patient care. You were in IT. That's like a construction worker saying he has civil engineering experience because he spent time with the guy leading the project.

Sorry but if you put it as clinical experience or shadowing it will reflect poorly on you, at least from my point of view. You should go out and actually shadow and get real clinical experience and see how much different it is and it'll make more sense. Put it on there obviously and spin it like "I'm familiar with the clerical tasks required as a physician blah blah blah cuz I was in IT"

 

[baseballfan46]

Thank you for everyone's responses. And in fact I do "smell the patients" haha. I spend about 2 hours a day on the floor with nurses and doctors and their patients.

Does my experience count as shadowing?

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I would wait for an Adcom member to respond so they can give a definitive answer. @Goro

 

[de Ribas]

Additionally, I help patients (in person and through phone) create and access their hospital patient portal accounts.
Do any if those tasks considered clinical

No.

As Ive seen in these forums, "If you can smell the patient, then it should count as clinical experience."

Does it mean if I work at a local grocery store and interact with people, it is clinical experience since some of my customers can also be patient somewhere?

Clinical experience is when you are involved in patient care in some way.

A lot of departments in a hospital can smell patients, but it's not direct patient care involvement.

 

[baseballfan46]

No.


Does it mean if I work at a local grocery store and interact with people, it is clinical experience since some of my customers can also be patient somewhere?

Clinical experience is when you are involved in patient care in some way.

A lot of departments in a hospital can smell patients, but it's not direct patient care involvement.

The first statement is blown completely out of context, I completely understand what you are saying though. Clinical experience involves actual physical contact with the patient for example assessing vitals, breath sounds, etc.

 

[Goro]

Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding clinical experience I was hoping someone would be able to help answer. I've been working as a clinical support analyst in the IT department for a small hospital for the last couple of years. My day to day tasks include working with doctors to create their order sets and documentation templates, teaching them how to use the EMR and PACS systems, and occasionally be in the rooms with the patients to help them navigate the EMR (especially with new users). I also work closely with nursing staff on the same EMR in creating their flow charts and electronic forms for charting. Additionally, I help patients (in person and through phone) create and access their hospital patient portal accounts.
Do any if those tasks considered clinical?
Thank you

Nope. You need to be interacting with the patients.

 

[de Ribas]

The first statement is blown completely out of context, I completely understand what you are saying though. Clinical experience involves actual physical contact with the patient for example assessing vitals, breath sounds, etc.

Then how is it different if IT person, or front desk, or billing, or gift shop, or administration, or custodian smelling patients in the hospital or interacting with them in some way.

So, it is not simply smelling the patients but having direct patient care contact in provider-patient relationship.