Clinical hours for APPI...

[RayneeDeigh]

I asked my DCT this question in our recent internship preparation meeting and she said she was stumped so I thought I'd get more opinions.

My dissertation research consists of a series of qualitative case studies that include assessment materials (i.e., a risk assessment, an assessment of empathy levels, etc.)

Do the hours I spend administering these measures count as assessment hours on the APPI since they are program sanctioned as part of my dissertation and are unpaid?

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[Therapist4Chnge]

I would think so. I had a similar situation where I was part of a research team that administered a number of measure, and I was able to include those hours towards my APPI.

 

[RayneeDeigh]

Excellent, thank you My DCT was leaning towards no, but she's also really conservative when it comes to counting our hours so I'll let her know that other programs might be doing it differently.

 

[yadashley]

Raynee,

I believe that it technically would not qualify for "clinical" hours, however, since there is no way for Appic to check on it, and it is experience doing the assessments, I would be inclined to add it in there.

 

[ForensicNeuro]

I don't think it counts either. The APPI hours were intended to come from practicum experiences, but you would not believe how students jack up those hours! I would say do whatever you need to do to get an APA internship. As long as your TD puts her final stamp on it, no one can check and it doesn't matter where they came from.

 

[PerhapsMaybeOk]

probably wont count. there is a spot for research hours. to count hours you have to be supervised and in a clinical context.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Raynee,

I believe that it technically would not qualify for "clinical" hours, however, since there is no way for Appic to check on it, and it is experience doing the assessments, I would be inclined to add it in there.

They have assessment only practica experiences, so I'm not sure how doing a battery of assessments in a research context would be any different. I think as long as the person administers the assessment, has clinical supervision, and ensures that the work is program sanctioned, that it would qualify.

 

[erg923]

I did about 50 research SCIDs in grad school and counted every one of them and every hour on my APPI last year. It was in my lab and a duty of my RAship in that lab.

I dont know, interviewing and diagnosing a psychotically depressed patient for 3 hours sure felt pretty "clinical" to me.
And I had weekly supervision, so what exactly is the problem?

 

[manko7]

I did about 50 research SCIDs in grad school and counted every one of them and every hour on my APPI last year. It was in my lab and duty of my RAship in that lab. I dont know, interviewing and diagnosing a psychotically depressed patient for 3 hours sure felt pretty "clinical" to me.
And I had weekly supervision, so what exactly is the problem?

There is no problem. Whether one is treating or researching a population should have no bearing on the skills of administering a measure. In fact, good clinical practice should aspire to the rigorous demands of a research protocol in so much as that is practical.

Unless one is researching a new way to administer a measure (using a test unconventionally) those hours should be counted.

 

[paramour]

We can count ours (even if it was for research) as long as we had pre-approved and signed supervision throughout the course of the assessments. Of course, our assessment hours were usually for someone else's research and not our own due to a graduate assistantship or extra hours worked on a contractual basis , so I'm not sure how or if they would consider our personal research applicable.