Clinical OMFS Programs

[alxspider]

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What are some good programs that focus more on doing than doing research, presenting at conferences,etc. ? Programs that will make good clinicians and not faculty members. I have no interest in teaching and want to work in private practice, but would like to be trained really well clinically.

 

[Contach]

What are some good programs that focus more on doing than doing research, presenting at conferences,etc. ? Programs that will make good clinicians and not faculty members. I have no interest in teaching and want to work in private practice, but would like to be trained really well clinically.

From what I saw, only few programs pushed students to do research/conferences. The only one I heard about was: UCSF.

As for what makes someone good in private practice - that is debated... Does a broad scope program help you in private practice? What if your private practice is in an affluent area and you can't offer simple cosmetic procedures? Can you be a great private practice OS if you've never done a neck dissection? Does that experience help at all? Is there such thing as doing too much teeth and titanium during residency? This is what applicants struggle with when it comes to ranking programs.

These were the programs that I felt were really busy:
- Washington Hospital Center
- Montefiore
- Boston University
- Cook County (lots of point and pulls though)

 

[CoachJawbone]

Montefiore Medical Center

 

[Localnative]

As a practicing OMS, the future of our profession is FULL SCOPE.

EVERYONE within dentistry is doing office based oral (not maxillofacial) surgery... Perio took over implants, GPs doing 3rd molar extractions, taking bone grafting courses and doing their own ridge augs, Prostho doing all of their own implants, bone grafting and soft tissue management (vestibuloplasties, etc)

Being well trained in orthognathics, TMJ diagnostics and surgery, and path will make you MORE MARKETABLE within both the medical and dental community. I cannot stress this enough being barely 3 years out of residency. The future and survival of our profession lies in our ability to offer a broad scope of oral and maxillofacial surgical procedures. Its does not lie in the saturated world of T and T practitioners.

I went to a heavy-on-academics residency program but it prepared me extremely well for the real world of private practice OMS (we did pediatric craniofacial, a ton of malignant path, trauma trauma trauma and sleep apnea). I can handle pretty much anything that comes into my office and have a large comfort zone within OMS. The only regret I have was not STRENGTHENING my expansive base of knowledge with additional fellowship training. Again, the future lies in offering a VERY broad scope to both referrals and your clientele both young and old.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

As a practicing OMS, the future of our profession is FULL SCOPE.

EVERYONE within dentistry is doing office based oral (not maxillofacial) surgery... Perio took over implants, GPs doing 3rd molar extractions, taking bone grafting courses and doing their own ridge augs, Prostho doing all of their own implants, bone grafting and soft tissue management (vestibuloplasties, etc)

Being well trained in orthognathics, TMJ diagnostics and surgery, and path will make you MORE MARKETABLE within both the medical and dental community. I cannot stress this enough being barely 3 years out of residency. The future and survival of our profession lies in our ability to offer a broad scope of oral and maxillofacial surgical procedures. Its does not lie in the saturated world of T and T practitioners.

I went to a heavy-on-academics residency program but it prepared me extremely well for the real world of private practice OMS (we did pediatric craniofacial, a ton of malignant path, trauma trauma trauma and sleep apnea). I can handle pretty much anything that comes into my office and have a large comfort zone within OMS. The only regret I have was not STRENGTHENING my expansive base of knowledge with additional fellowship training. Again, the future lies in offering a VERY broad scope to both referrals and your clientele both young and old.

very interesting perspective. curious where you trained and what city/part of the country you are in?

 

[joefosho315]

From what I saw, only few programs pushed students to do research/conferences. The only one I heard about was: UCSF.

As for what makes someone good in private practice - that is debated... Does a broad scope program help you in private practice? What if your private practice is in an affluent area and you can't offer simple cosmetic procedures? Can you be a great private practice OS if you've never done a neck dissection? Does that experience help at all? Is there such thing as doing too much teeth and titanium during residency? This is what applicants struggle with when it comes to ranking programs.

These were the programs that I felt were really busy:
- Washington Hospital Center
- Montefiore
- Boston University
- Cook County (lots of point and pulls though)

I'm a resident at UCSF and had to put the facts out there: There is absolutely no research requirement in our program. In fact, there are plenty of residents who aren't interested in pursuing research here, and that's just fine.

 

[joefosho315]

very interesting perspective. curious where you trained and what city/part of the country you are in?

Would like to hear about this as well. 👍

 

[WOAHHI]

I'm a resident at UCSF and had to put the facts out there: There is absolutely no research requirement in our program. In fact, there are plenty of residents who aren't interested in pursuing research here, and that's just fine.

Thanks for clarifying ! If you have time could you maybe tell us about your experiences so far at SF? Not sure what year you are but if you're fresh out maybe you can also provide any insight into other programs you checked out? I'm still trying to choose programs at this point and now that I'm out of the big names that I'm familiar with I've run out of any real method of comparing the other 50+ programs heh

 

[Babnik]

As a practicing OMS, the future of our profession is FULL SCOPE.

EVERYONE within dentistry is doing office based oral (not maxillofacial) surgery... Perio took over implants, GPs doing 3rd molar extractions, taking bone grafting courses and doing their own ridge augs, Prostho doing all of their own implants, bone grafting and soft tissue management (vestibuloplasties, etc)

Being well trained in orthognathics, TMJ diagnostics and surgery, and path will make you MORE MARKETABLE within both the medical and dental community. I cannot stress this enough being barely 3 years out of residency. The future and survival of our profession lies in our ability to offer a broad scope of oral and maxillofacial surgical procedures. Its does not lie in the saturated world of T and T practitioners.

I went to a heavy-on-academics residency program but it prepared me extremely well for the real world of private practice OMS (we did pediatric craniofacial, a ton of malignant path, trauma trauma trauma and sleep apnea). I can handle pretty much anything that comes into my office and have a large comfort zone within OMS. The only regret I have was not STRENGTHENING my expansive base of knowledge with additional fellowship training. Again, the future lies in offering a VERY broad scope to both referrals and your clientele both young and old.

Does that mean it would be more beneficial to do a 6 yr MD program rather than a 4 yr? 😕