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I'm going to be a bad boy and offend some people here, but I need to rant:
clinical research is not the same intellectual rigor that basic science is. Yes, its important; yes its necessary.
But the bottom line is that hte vast majority of clinical researhc is cookie cutter mold methods and analysis that a mediocre undergrad student could do, or even an advanced high school student.
The LOGISTICS of running clinical research is challenging (i.e. gathering all the medical records of kids < 5 admitted for meningitis at a hospital over hte past year), but he actual science and intellectual capacity needed to write a clinical research paper is vastly inferior to a basic science paper.
The reason I bring this up is because I think when you cite someone's publication record you have to keep in mind what kind of researcher they are.
Clinical research MDs can easily put out 7 first author papers per year (I'm not talking peripheral PI involvement either, I'm talking first author papers)
Basic science researchers would never have that kind of output unless they are listed as PI and not the first author (which doesnt count IMHO because PIs generally have very peripheral involvement)
IMHO, 1 basic science paper is worth at least 4 clinical research papers. You can easily run 10 different clinical investigations at the same time and hire some undergrad or RN to do the dirty logistical work for stuff like retrospective case controls.
To publish a basic science paper requires major intellectual reasoning that takes much longer than clinical research. You are basically starting from scratch.
On the other hand, clinical research is based on the cookie cutter molds of cohort, case control, or RCT. There's very little actual thinking involved. Even the results/analysis section on clinical papers does not require nearly the same fortitude to interpret as a basic science paper.
Again, I'm not saying that basic science is superior to clinical research. We obviously need both. But what I am saying is that publishign a basic science paper is much more difficult (from a science perspective, of course clinical research often has lots of logistical hurdles) and much more intellectually challenging than publishing a clinical paper.
End rant.
Flame away
clinical research is not the same intellectual rigor that basic science is. Yes, its important; yes its necessary.
But the bottom line is that hte vast majority of clinical researhc is cookie cutter mold methods and analysis that a mediocre undergrad student could do, or even an advanced high school student.
The LOGISTICS of running clinical research is challenging (i.e. gathering all the medical records of kids < 5 admitted for meningitis at a hospital over hte past year), but he actual science and intellectual capacity needed to write a clinical research paper is vastly inferior to a basic science paper.
The reason I bring this up is because I think when you cite someone's publication record you have to keep in mind what kind of researcher they are.
Clinical research MDs can easily put out 7 first author papers per year (I'm not talking peripheral PI involvement either, I'm talking first author papers)
Basic science researchers would never have that kind of output unless they are listed as PI and not the first author (which doesnt count IMHO because PIs generally have very peripheral involvement)
IMHO, 1 basic science paper is worth at least 4 clinical research papers. You can easily run 10 different clinical investigations at the same time and hire some undergrad or RN to do the dirty logistical work for stuff like retrospective case controls.
To publish a basic science paper requires major intellectual reasoning that takes much longer than clinical research. You are basically starting from scratch.
On the other hand, clinical research is based on the cookie cutter molds of cohort, case control, or RCT. There's very little actual thinking involved. Even the results/analysis section on clinical papers does not require nearly the same fortitude to interpret as a basic science paper.
Again, I'm not saying that basic science is superior to clinical research. We obviously need both. But what I am saying is that publishign a basic science paper is much more difficult (from a science perspective, of course clinical research often has lots of logistical hurdles) and much more intellectually challenging than publishing a clinical paper.
End rant.
Flame away