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[darius99]

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so we can discuss preferences on loupes to use in our practice but not on whitening brands?

 

[totalballistic]

yeah i don't get it either! care to explain moderators out there.

 

[aphistis]

Discussing which loupes are better than others is a professional conversation that leads to improved patient care and clinical performance. That's exactly the kind of stuff SDN is for.

Asking what kind of whitening you should get, on the other hand, is soliciting advice as a patient, and as a matter of policy SDN prohibits requests for treatment advice. I hope this helps a little.

 

[ncalcate]

Basically, if specific treatment plans and/or dental advice are dispensed on this board, SDN can potentially be held liable in a malpractice suit if a patient actually followed the advice and suffered an adverse medical outcome. It is hard to believe and very sad, but in this day and age, personal injury lawyers will attempt to sue anyone/anything to make money, including a bunch of dental students posting on an internet message board. Too bad meaningful tort reform never passed when the Republicans controlled Congress.

 

[toofache32]

Example of unacceptable:

I have this red itchy rash "down there" that seems to be spreading. What kind of ointment should I put on it?

 

[I'mFillingFine]

Example of acceptable:

Hey, I heard that dentists have the highest rate of suicide. Why is that??? omg are they like super depressed omg!!11!11!

 

[ItsGavinC]

Example of acceptable:

Hey, I heard that dentists have the highest rate of suicide. Why is that??? omg are they like super depressed omg!!11!11!

That doesn't violate the forum TOS, regardless of whether or not you prefer it as a topic.

 

[I'mFillingFine]

That doesn't violate the forum TOS, regardless of whether or not you prefer it as a topic.

Exactly my point...the TOS are luckily quite broad and general, allowing any discussions that do not include medical advice. (Definitely a good idea! Didn't yet another person win a suit somewhere that her coffee was too hot? 🙄 )

That was a pro-TOS comment, anti-me-posting-on-threads-I'm-tired-of. 😳

 

[capisce?]

Discussing which loupes are better than others is a professional conversation that leads to improved patient care and clinical performance. That's exactly the kind of stuff SDN is for.

Asking what kind of whitening you should get, on the other hand, is soliciting advice as a patient, and as a matter of policy SDN prohibits requests for treatment advice. I hope this helps a little.

I didn't know that discussion of crest whitestrips that can be bought OVER THE COUNTER was professional advice. The people who were discussing it in that thread were doing so as CONSUMERS, not in relation to their use and results in their patients.

Apparently, if I go to walmart and ask the 16 year-old pimple faced worker where the white strips are, he's all of a sudden dispensing professional advice when he tells me aisle 10 next to the tampax. 👍

This place is hilarious sometimes.

Discussing the best brands of loupes enhances patient care? LMAO!!! One would think that with any pair of loupes you would have improvement of care, so discussion of one particular brand versus the next does nothing but lead to advertising for outside companies.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[aphistis]

I didn't know that discussion of crest whitestrips that can be bought OVER THE COUNTER was professional advice. The people who were discussing it in that thread were doing so as CONSUMERS, not in relation to their use and results in their patients.

Apparently, if I go to walmart and ask the 16 year-old pimple faced worker where the white strips are, he's all of a sudden dispensing professional advice when he tells me aisle 10 next to the tampax. 👍

This place is hilarious sometimes.

Discussing the best brands of loupes enhances patient care? LMAO!!! One would think that with any pair of loupes you would have improvement of care, so discussion of one particular brand versus the next does nothing but lead to advertising for outside companies.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Thanks for sharing. 🙂

 

[Lidopaine82]

Thanks for sharing. 🙂

he does have a point

 

[rambo2006]

I'm a D1 student and I dont claim in anyway to know where the fine legal borders exist when it comes to what we can say or not. There may be some legal clause that SDN contributers may become a potentional victom to depending on whether they use words like "I recommend" or "I advise." But seriously, can you (moderators) find us a solution in that we can at least discuss other opinions on products. Please clarify where this "grey area" is.


thanx

 

[darius99]

couldn't sdn be set up so that you have to sign up for an account to view posts, and part of the agreement when you sign up includes wording that says nothing posted here is meant to be used as medical advice, and that sdn assumes no liability for what is posted here?

 

[aphistis]

I'm a D1 student and I dont claim in anyway to know where the fine legal borders exist when it comes to what we can say or not. There may be some legal clause that SDN contributers may become a potentional victom to depending on whether they use words like "I recommend" or "I advise." But seriously, can you (moderators) find us a solution in that we can at least discuss other opinions on products. Please clarify where this "grey area" is.


thanx

The issue is relatively simple. In both the first and also a later post made within the thread in question, the OP asked about in-office procedures as well as over-the-counter products. Discussing the merits of OTC products is no big deal; run a search and you'll find threads about flosses, Listerine, Crest Pro Health, Whitestrips, and plenty more. Requests for advice about in-office treatments, however, have never been allowed, and that's why the thread was closed.

 

[Lesley]

Discussing which loupes are better than others is a professional conversation that leads to improved patient care and clinical performance. That's exactly the kind of stuff SDN is for.

Asking what kind of whitening you should get, on the other hand, is soliciting advice as a patient, and as a matter of policy SDN prohibits requests for treatment advice. I hope this helps a little.

Thanks for the above explanation. I now understand SDN's position regarding noting specific products; however, I am a little confused about how a discussion of "antibiotics" on the SDN's dental residency site at the same time as the whitening issue was not also "treatment advice." Both the whitening products at issue and the antibiotics can only be prescribed by licensed dentists/doctors. One was a discussion of patient sensisitivity, at the time the thead was closed, the other patient safety. Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[aphistis]

Thanks for the above explanation. I now understand SDN's position regarding noting specific products; however, I am a little confused about how a discussion of "antibiotics" on the SDN's dental residency site at the same time as the whitening issue was not also "treatment advice." Both the whitening products at issue and the antibiotics can only be prescribed by licensed dentists/doctors. One was a discussion of patient sensisitivity, at the time the thead was closed, the other patient safety. Thanks in advance for your input.

I should have clarified. Consider the difference between discussing different anesthesia techniques with another dentist at a professional convention, and being hit up for free advice by a stranger at a party. The former is beneficial to you both as professionals; the latter does you no good, and in a worst-case scenario has the potential to cause you a lot of headache. This is the cyber-equivalent.

The forums are intended for intra-professional conversations and not consumer advice. Discussions between students, residents, and practicing dentists are welcome and encouraged, but for the same reasons that you wouldn't give free professional advice to a partygoer with a toothache, requests for treatment advice from prospective patients aren't permitted here. In the recently-closed whitening thread, from context it was apparent the OP was asking as a patient, not as a dental employee, and for that reason it fell under the no-treatment-advice policy.

 

[Lesley]

I should have clarified. Consider the difference between discussing different anesthesia techniques with another dentist at a professional convention, and being hit up for free advice by a stranger at a party. The former is beneficial to you both as professionals; the latter does you no good, and in a worst-case scenario has the potential to cause you a lot of headache. This is the cyber-equivalent.

The forums are intended for intra-professional conversations and not consumer advice. Discussions between students, residents, and practicing dentists are welcome and encouraged, but for the same reasons that you wouldn't give free professional advice to a partygoer with a toothache, requests for treatment advice from prospective patients aren't permitted here. In the recently-closed whitening thread, from context it was apparent the OP was asking as a patient, not as a dental employee, and for that reason it fell under the no-treatment-advice policy.

Thanks for the info.

 

[DrJeff]

I should have clarified. Consider the difference between discussing different anesthesia techniques with another dentist at a professional convention, and being hit up for free advice by a stranger at a party. The former is beneficial to you both as professionals; the latter does you no good, and in a worst-case scenario has the potential to cause you a lot of headache. This is the cyber-equivalent.

The forums are intended for intra-professional conversations and not consumer advice. Discussions between students, residents, and practicing dentists are welcome and encouraged, but for the same reasons that you wouldn't give free professional advice to a partygoer with a toothache, requests for treatment advice from prospective patients aren't permitted here. In the recently-closed whitening thread, from context it was apparent the OP was asking as a patient, not as a dental employee, and for that reason it fell under the no-treatment-advice policy.

Bill, the way you posted your reply with handling this question makes it crystal clear to me that your ready to graduate this spring and handle the enjoyment of "office management" that goes along with this profession!😀 🙄