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stevvo111

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Sup guys,

So I'm starting to ask profs and people to write letters of rec for me. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I have a ton of people I can ask who can speak about their various relationships with me and their unique understanding of me as a successful applicant. In an effort to have every voice heard, I am thinking about getting a couples co-written letters. One will be from a non-science prof who taught/mentored me in a small (2-4 person) course after doing research abroad. I was thinking about having the individual who mentored me abroad and helped me with all of my research while in the country to co-write this letter as well. Instead of having two letters of different perspectives (1 phd prof and the other a MA level person), I figured it would be cool to combine these into one awesome letter. They both said they would be happy to write a separate or combine one. I could just get one letter, but I'm worried things would be missed, and I don't want some part of me "missing" as an applicant.

the second letter is from my volunteering experience. I know two people who work at the national level, one who was my super when I was a sophomore (he was a senior), and the other was my director as a senior. The student who was a senior now works at the national level, but he also knows me at a much more personal level than the director when I was a senior (he saw my direct interaction with the group we helped). In an effort to combine both of their knowledges and attitudes (both my personal, direct experience and interaction with the people I worked with and the professional, leader, get's things done) of me, I was thinking they could co write one as well. They also are happy to write a single combined letter or a separate one. Again, I could ask just one, but I am worried things would get missed. Also, is it appropriate for the senior who is now working at the national level to write me a letter? He knew me at a personal level, but also professional. Interesting combo. But then again, I'd consider all of my writers (except the science profs) to know me at a personal level, but also professional.

In summary, I know 4 people really well and who know me really well who could write spectacular letters (I'm fairly confident, but you never know 100%). But I don't want separate letters from each of them because each pair was involved with the same activity, and just saw me through a different lens.

What do you guys think? Separate letters? or combined letters?

I currently have 2 science profs, 1 research mentor, 1 doctor/mentor/work supervisor, and 1 doctor who taught me a non science course. As you can see, I've got great support, but each person knows me in a different light and I want to capture all of these different lights.

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You should get separate letters. I think a combined letter would be annoying for the letter writers.
 
I have seen "combined letters" happen in cases where one of the letter writers was a grad student (one of my letters was like this - my grad student wrote it but had the professor of the course also contribute a little and co-sign it)

If the two letter writers directly know each other and were involved in the same project/activity, it might not be a waste to have them combined. I'd imagine having 2 of these types of letters being a little weird though. Sorry if I misread what you wrote 😛
 
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Thanks for the advice guys.

Yeah, the first project, they were both involved. One state side, other in the country I did research in. I think I am going to continue getting the rec letter from the both of them co-written.

the second one- I think I might just stick with getting it done by one.

Other advice? Is it uncommon and weird to have cowritten letters?
 
If written cohesively, I don't see it being that weird since you said they were working with you on the same project. This looks to me like a situation similar to when a grad student drafts the letter and the PI adds final touches and both sign off on it. You will have to designate only one as the letter writer in amcas though.

If you're not exceeding the 4-6 letter limit, you should separate them if possible though (e.g. related projects but they did not know each other or work together)
 
If you have not exceeded the limit, I would have the letters written separately. Especially if the two professors do not work together/know each other. If they work for the same organization and know each other (as in the second case), I think a joint letter would be fine. The only issue I see is something being omitted. The writers may have similar things to say about you, but they probably all have different things to say about you as well. Just be sure that they both discuss the qualities they see in you in the letter, instead of having one person write the letter and the other person just sign at the bottom. Good luck! Sounds like you have some strong letters coming your way.
 
Have you ever written a team paper? It's no fun.

My understanding is that, in the case of the grad student/PI letter, it comes more from the fact that 1) both parties know with applicant in the same context and 2) the grad student has likely spent more time with the student and the PI has more important things to do with their time and may not even know the student well enough to write the letter in any case. In this case, the grad student would be providing their recommendation and the PI would simply be signing off on the letter give it more validity.

In your case, you seem to have a great -- and distinct -- relationship with all four of your recommenders, so the combined letter seems less appropriate. Plus, I think your recommenders can each provide valuable perspectives that may be lost if you were to have them combine forces to present a "unified" perspective that may force them to focus more on common-ground positives, which is in fact your exact fear. If it helps at all, when I approached my letter writers, I provided, along with my CV and personal statement, a cover letter that outlined the context in which I knew them and what personal qualities I was most "proud of" and had thought I had exhibited well in our relaionship. This was my slightly more subtle way of taking the "Can I ask Professor A to speak specifically about X and Professor B to speak specifically about Y?" approach I've seen others take more directly. I don't know if my indirect approach worked in trying to highlight different aspects of my self, but that's something you'll have to leave to your letter writers and the strength/nature of your relationship with them.

Also, think about how this may seem to the receiving end of the request. I know I'd be a bit miffed if an applicant asked me for a letter and then essentially told me that they thought my insight alone was insufficient support for their letter. Obviously that's a more "characaturized" point of view, but it might be a flash of annoyance that can be avoided.

As others have already noted, if you aren't exceeding the maximum number of letters allowed, I'd go for separate letters.
 
Thanks for the advice guys!

This stinks cause I have so many letter writers, but so little understanding of what combination of them would produce the most significant impact on my application. (my gpa kinda sucks, mcat is great not excellent, ec's are excellent- so I'm banking on others talking about my intelligence to makeup for my stupid gpa).

I'm gonna talk to the two mentor/advisors and see what they think.
 
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