Colin Powell's endorsement

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He gave his reasoning for supporting Obama, and he seemed genuine.....If an important figure of military strength and a Republican can endorse Obama's beliefs and with such great understanding of the issues, it makes you think...If you havent listened to his interview on Meet the Press.... you need to go find it because it is many peoples beliefs as well... Republican or not......
 
Ha Ha Ha!! If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it walks and quacks like a black man endorsing another black man. Powell has a big ax to grind with the bush administration because he feels like he was embarrassed by the WMD thing. Fact is, CP has made so many errors of judgment (like not letting the troops finish the job in GUlf War I) that his opinion is really irrelevant anymore. Please don't tell me it's not a race thing.
 
umm, yea. and everyone who supports mccain supports him cause he's white. yea, you're right. it's just a race thing. nothing else. whatever helps you curl up in your clan hood and dream of nascar.


Ha Ha Ha!! If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it walks and quacks like a black man endorsing another black man. Powell has a big ax to grind with the bush administration because he feels like he was embarrassed by the WMD thing. Fact is, CP has made so many errors of judgment (like not letting the troops finish the job in GUlf War I) that his opinion is really irrelevant anymore. Please don't tell me it's not a race thing.
 
whatever helps you curl up in your clan hood and dream of nascar.
Ahhh tolerance... i love how liberals are the very best at using prejudice and discrimination. Clan hoods and nascar--that's just genius!
 
umm, yea. and everyone who supports mccain supports him cause he's white. yea, you're right. it's just a race thing. nothing else. whatever helps you curl up in your clan hood and dream of nascar.

I don't agree with you.

I'm a CRAKKA.

I don't support McCain because of his color.

I don't oppose Obama because of his color.

Nascar doesnt interest me.

Unless you're speaking of Will Farell's NASCAR movie, which is the only movie on the planet that I've watched four times.
 
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Ha Ha Ha!! If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it walks and quacks like a black man endorsing another black man.

When the story broke, I thought there'd be some ignorant-a ss people coming to that conclusion. It still surprises me when I hear it from doctors, though. I keep expecting so much more.
 
When the story broke, I thought there'd be some ignorant-a ss people coming to that conclusion. It still surprises me when I hear it from doctors, though. I keep expecting so much more.
Answer honestly please: have you actually read obama's health plan proposal? i have as well as mccain's. i'd expect more from a med student. wait, no, no i wouldn't. med students today just don't get it.
 
Ha Ha Ha!! If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In this case, it walks and quacks like a black man endorsing another black man. Powell has a big ax to grind with the bush administration because he feels like he was embarrassed by the WMD thing. Fact is, CP has made so many errors of judgment (like not letting the troops finish the job in GUlf War I) that his opinion is really irrelevant anymore. Please don't tell me it's not a race thing.
What ever floats your boat and gets you through your day!! Your statement is sure sign of your narrow mindedness.....I am not looking at this in a black and white way, that is soo pase......As far as him having an ax against bush.....Well last time I checked, McCain said that he is NOT bush....I believe that Powell is smarter than that and knows that McCain isn't Bush and therefore, would have endorsed what he already believed about McCain.....As far as Powells opinion being irrelevant, maybe to you, but if you look at the important states that have huge military families (NC,OH, FL) they are saying differently......
 
What ever floats your boat and gets you through your day!! Your statement is sure sign of your narrow mindedness.....I am not looking at this in a black and white way, that is soo pase......As far as him having an ax against bush.....Well last time I checked, McCain said that he is NOT bush....I believe that Powell is smarter than that and knows that McCain isn't Bush and therefore, would have endorsed what he already believed about McCain.....As far as Powells opinion being irrelevant, maybe to you, but if you look at the important states that have huge military families (NC,OH, FL) they are saying differently......
From a washington insider as quoted by Politico: "Powell cares a lot about his reputation with Washington elites, and he thinks he was badly damaged by his relationship with the Bush administration," said this Republican. "So this is a way to make up for what he regarded as not being treated well by the Bush administration, not being given the due deference he thinks he deserves."

And that Powell would make his decision known in the closing weeks of the election, as it becomes increasingly clear that Obama is the favorite, reflects a calculated political move, says this source. "Let's be honest — do we think Powell would be doing this if Obama had been trailing 6 or 7 points in the polls?" the source asked, deeming Powell's endorsement "a profile in conventional wisdom."
 
From a washington insider as quoted by Politico: "Powell cares a lot about his reputation with Washington elites, and he thinks he was badly damaged by his relationship with the Bush administration," said this Republican. "So this is a way to make up for what he regarded as not being treated well by the Bush administration, not being given the due deference he thinks he deserves."

And that Powell would make his decision known in the closing weeks of the election, as it becomes increasingly clear that Obama is the favorite, reflects a calculated political move, says this source. "Let's be honest — do we think Powell would be doing this if Obama had been trailing 6 or 7 points in the polls?" the source asked, deeming Powell's endorsement "a profile in conventional wisdom."
I was thinking the exact same thing until I realized that he probably waited to see how the canidates reacted to the financial crisis before he made a definitive choice...You have to remember that he gave 2300 dollars to the McCain campaign early on, so to me, this is more about McCains running mate than anything......Plus, they are both military men......Bush has nothing to do with McCain, and McCain is more of a conservative Democrat than a Republican, so that certain Republicans statement is null and void....When you weigh both sides of the equasion, powell seemed to use logical deduction than just vote for the black man......
 
i am the furthest thing from a liberal. and my comments were obviously sarcastic.

about people supporting mccain cause he's white. also sarcastic.

but, your comment of the reason that P is for O cause he's black is frustrating.
and i guess, could come from someone who wears a white hood...

Ahhh tolerance... i love how liberals are the very best at using prejudice and discrimination. Clan hoods and nascar--that's just genius!
 
Answer honestly please: have you actually read obama's health plan proposal? i have as well as mccain's. i'd expect more from a med student. wait, no, no i wouldn't. med students today just don't get it.

Are you seriously putting your prejudiced statement on equal level with a health care plan assessment? BTW, I'm not really interested in either candidate, I'm interested in people not shooting their *****ic mouths off and passing it on as wisdom.
 
Are you seriously putting your prejudiced statement on equal level with a health care plan assessment? BTW, I'm not really interested in either candidate, I'm interested in people not shooting their *****ic mouths off and passing it on as wisdom.
So I'll take that as a "no, i haven't read his healthcare proposal." Which makes it interesting that you'd come to a health care forum and discuss why Obama is so awesome. Go read it, then come back and tell me what you think about it.
 
Colin Powell endorsing Barack Obama is just ONE more vote. What makes Obama unique is that he has consistently crossed religious, political, and racial lines amongst his supporters! This is so much larger than race, Surfer.
Life is about more than medicine, Surfer. After 4 years of med school and multiple years of residency, young physicians are trapped in a microcosm, which leads them to not see that there is more to the world than what leaks into our hospitals.
Healthcare is important but don't forget about education, the economy, the environment, etc.!
You can't tell me that you would have voted for McCain over DubYah eight years ago! Because the country didn't choose McCain then... they chose W not once, but twice. We voted for him despite his many mistakes, his on-the-job training, his ignorance, his bullheadedness...
The only reason why you're voting for McCain now is 1) he's the only candidate you'd heard of on the Republican side!, 2) he's Republican and mommy/daddy really did a job on you as a child, 3) you are misguided enough to believe that the tax breaks that are promised by McCain will effect a physician's salary (by the way, if a CEO had a salary as low as a physician's, they'd freakin' quit!), 4) he's not a Democrat!
Be careful about turning this election into a black vs. white ordeal. We shouldn't practice the politics or anger that our parents have to work out within themselves.😡
We have to be better. You never experienced desegregation; from either side. Don't pretend that you have some weird axe to grind when you have no clue what our parents had to deal with. However, that day is over. If you want our world to be better, start with yourself.
I am far from a politician, but from issue to issue, Barack Obama is a superior candidate. If we were going to war, I'd want McCain by my side as an advisor; but he is not fit to be our country's president.
The mistake we made with President Bush is that we wanted to feel a sense of familiarity with the president. We wanted a president that we could drink a beer with, a good ol' boy that we could call by a nickname "W"! Look where that got us, Surfer!
As a physician, we are all knowledgable and driven to be the BEST! Why expect less from your president. In medicine, I want to BEST doctor to lead my team. Not just the one that just shows up to work and sleeps/awakens the patients; but really an ANESTHESIOLOGIST that leads the team! We want someone that's brighter, tougher, and more innovative to lead the team, right! Why accept less when choosing your president?
"W" is the equivalent of the guy that made "C's" throughout med school, failed Step 1 at least once, matched into and performed average in his residency, and is considered average by his colleagues in his medical practice. McCain would be a bit better, because he actually aced his Surgery (war) clerkship, a real gunner, but made B's and C's in all of this other electives. McCain believes that since he's soooo great with Surgery (war), this should outway his other deficiencies. Wrong!
What makes Obama best is that although he might not ace every issue, he recognizes that seeking help from others is very important. I know that W would never accept help, and McCain is too stubborn to ever ask for it. It's completely understandable why America, including Colin Powell, would vote for Obama, regardless of party, race, or religion.
I hope you'll take this criticism of your views constructively, and use it to become a more sensible voter.
 
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I love quotes by "a Washington insider", which is in the similar vein as "some people are saying" or "some officials inside are saying this"...all of which mean jack.


Plus the comments Powell said about Palin are spot-on, but hey, instead of responding to those we can just point out that a Washington insider thinks Powell is endorsing HUSSEIN OBAMA just because he wants to get invited to the Christmas parties of teh uber Washington elite.
 
I don't agree with you.

I'm a CRAKKA.

I don't support McCain because of his color.

I don't oppose Obama because of his color.

Nascar doesnt interest me.

Unless you're speaking of Will Farell's NASCAR movie, which is the only movie on the planet that I've watched four times.

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Hahahah. Just had to to do it LOL
 
if powell endorsed obama mainly bec. he's black, then he would've also endorsed other balck candidates in tight races, such as congressman Ford who was in a dead heat in tennessee and woudl've been the first black senator from the south since reconstruction i think. he also would've supported carol mausley brown, a black female running for president in '04 demoncratic primary. Time and again, colin powell has sided with party over race. Where he does support a different philosophy than his party line would indicate (ie his support for affirmative action), he himself has always made it clear, "we are a big enough party to disagree on issues while still beleiving in the over all issue of restoring the american dream" (RNC convention speech 1996)

In short, powell is an elder statesman who is not afraid to cross party lines when he feels the need to do so. If his motivation was supporting a black candidate in a historic race, he would've done a lot of endorsements in the past.

Read your history.
 
It's completely understandable why America, including Colin Powell, would vote for Obama, regardless of party, race, or religion.
It's easy for you to ignore race in the election but not reasonable. The race-based support for Obama was the only reason he won in the primaries, his 'lead' is smaller than the black voting block in his favor/ McCain is winning if the black vote is ignored, and if Obama wins it will only be because he gets 99% of the black vote. Too bad half of black voters won't vote against Obama's white half, that'd be some race-based voting I could support. JK :laugh:

The reason I prefer McCain is that he is basically a republican and a realist. In other words he realizes that it's more important for people to have jobs than handouts. Jobs are good period. Handouts sound nice and caring but just lead to more handouts tomorrow and so on through generations.
The reason I can't support Obama is that he is basically a socialist and a misguided idealist. He thinks you can help people by taking from their neighbors to give stuff to them when in reality, that just discourages work. His ideas wouldn't be so terrible if they worked in the real world, but they don't. Also, he is comfortable with racist hatred in his church. White hoods have nothing on "Rev" Wright. His campaign is nice and calculated, but his heart is much worse than his so-called plans.
 
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Colin Powell is what colin Powell has always been a "great american". Just like the rest of the politicians who continue to vote for their own pay raises.

I don't have an ax to grind against powell. I respect him. I just respectfully disagree with his endorsement. Thats all.

Still, I wished he was running against obamamania.
 
if powell endorsed obama mainly bec. he's black, then he would've also endorsed other balck candidates in tight races, such as congressman Ford who was in a dead heat in tennessee and woudl've been the first black senator from the south since reconstruction i think. he also would've supported carol mausley brown, a black female running for president in '04 demoncratic primary. Time and again, colin powell has sided with party over race. Where he does support a different philosophy than his party line would indicate (ie his support for affirmative action), he himself has always made it clear, "we are a big enough party to disagree on issues while still beleiving in the over all issue of restoring the american dream" (RNC convention speech 1996)

In short, powell is an elder statesman who is not afraid to cross party lines when he feels the need to do so. If his motivation was supporting a black candidate in a historic race, he would've done a lot of endorsements in the past.

Read your history.
He didn't vote for them because they weren't his future superiors. Congressmen don't matter to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He waited this long to finally endorse Obama because he wasn't going to do it if there was a chance obama would lose. Now he couches it in some lame Palin BS. Despicable.

I've read a lot of history, and history has a way of repeating itself. Obama is a socialist. He is promising things that aren't his to promise. And people are voting for him hoping to receive something that they never earned.
 
I love quotes by "a Washington insider", which is in the similar vein as "some people are saying" or "some officials inside are saying this"...all of which mean jack.


Plus the comments Powell said about Palin are spot-on, but hey, instead of responding to those we can just point out that a Washington insider thinks Powell is endorsing HUSSEIN OBAMA just because he wants to get invited to the Christmas parties of teh uber Washington elite.



I think that he likes Obama and wants a spot in the cabinet
 
I love quotes by "a Washington insider", which is in the similar vein as "some people are saying" or "some officials inside are saying this"...all of which mean jack.


Plus the comments Powell said about Palin are spot-on, but hey, instead of responding to those we can just point out that a Washington insider thinks Powell is endorsing HUSSEIN OBAMA just because he wants to get invited to the Christmas parties of teh uber Washington elite.

Hussein Obama is Barak's grandfather, I didn't think he was running for president!
Aren't you supposed to be alive to be a presidential candidate?
 
So Colin Powell like every other politician is slowly jumping on to the Obama bandwagon for their own reasons whether genuine or not. Who cares? More importantly, what will Obama do once he is elected? He will have a Democratic Congress which will mean possibly good things or more likely just more bad things. He can't fix what it is going on now. Bush didn't jack the economy. ALL of the haters who tried to cash in did who now have decided that since he is dumb, he should be a scapegoat.

For all of you Obama lovers, let's see how accountable you are as supporters once he is elected. If he starts F'ing up like Bush but in different ways, I don't want to hear 8 years from now people distancing themselves because they don't want to admit to their bad choice.

And anyone who argues that there is more to this country than our own interest, you are right except you are willing to let other people's interests overrule your own. Welcome to today's problem for doctors. Remember, the common FAILURE American who rode the bad credit spending fiasco for the last 10-15 years that I even as an 18 year old thought was ridiculous are now JUSTLY suffering. Do I care if they shoot themselves in the head for making very lousy choices? NOPE. More related to healthcare, why should my salary suffer because people think they can make lousy choices for 20-30 years and then demand care? People who can't help themselves is just an excuse that we allow, and it actually hurts people who want to try because they have to share the assistance with other failures.

Why is everybody entitled to a TV, couch, spacious living quarters, and on and on? I didn't grow up with "everything" and I didn't look to Bill Gates as somebody who should fork over his stuff for me. His success is his and not mine to take unless I earn it. That's the biggest problem with Dems, which has made me move away from them politically towards individuals like Ron Paul. I can't stand the handout mentality anymore.
 

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