College Credit and skipping courses

[ccesssu]

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for those classes which you can get credit for (general chem / bio etc.) from APs and dual enrollment

would it be smart to take the normal schedule with everyone else, or skip up into the next course (assuming prob ochem)?
i mean, wouldn't you get your ass whooped it you studied in high school, especially if you took the course 2 or 3 years ago?

 

[deleted357625]

no take the general chem at the university then go to ochem. Also, some med schools don't accept AP courses taken in high school. Dual enrollment is a different thing, anything you dual enroll in is on your official college transcript.

 

[aSagacious]

I agree with Torshi. Despite the curriculum being the same, college coursework is a whole new ballgame, so it's best that you get used to it in a class that is mostly a review to make the transition smoother. Consider shooting for something like: (bio I/II, chem I/II, calc I/II, gen univ reqs) for your freshman year.

 

[tn4596]

I would ask the call some premed advisor and ask.
I think dual credit course credit is going to be assigned as transfer course on your transcripts, so you prolly can not retake the course.
About AP credit, I would ask your predmed advisor if the med school in your state accept AP credit.
I was in your shoe and have alot (30) credits from ap and dual. I assumed that med school would not accept AP science course so I retake one in community college. When i asked my advisor, she said that I don't need to take em since all med school in my state (texas) accept AP.
Honestly, I am rly glad taht i took all those credit because they enable me to finish my degree in 3 years.

 

[CurrySpice]

I skipped gen. bio and never looked back. Friend skipped gen. chem and took orgo 2x b/c she wasn't prepared. Make sure you know the material well if you plan to skip the college's intro classes.

 

[aSagacious]

When i asked my advisor, she said that I don't need to take em since all med school in my state (texas) accept AP.
Honestly, I am rly glad taht i took all those credit because they enable me to finish my degree in 3 years.

This is fine... if you're only applying to Texas schools (which would be silly). Why limit the number of schools that you can apply to?

 

[jeremmed77]

no take the general chem at the university then go to ochem. Also, some med schools don't accept AP courses taken in high school. Dual enrollment is a different thing, anything you dual enroll in is on your official college transcript.

I Agree With This!

 

[ccesssu]

no take the general chem at the university then go to ochem. Also, some med schools don't accept AP courses taken in high school. Dual enrollment is a different thing, anything you dual enroll in is on your official college transcript.

what do you mean med schools don't accept APs? would that matter to med schools if your college allows you to skip genchem (because you took ap chem in hs)?

 

[aSagacious]

what do you mean med schools don't accept APs? would that matter to med schools if your college allows you to skip genchem (because you took ap chem in hs)?

Most often med schools do not let you use AP courses for pre-reqs. Some will let you take upper-level science courses as a substitute (for example inorganic or physical chemistry instead of gen chem). This would be more problematic for those who would not otherwise take upper level science courses (like humanities or business majors).

Here is a fairly recent list of schools that belong in each category:
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nss/nav/pages/school/Med School Course Reqs/MedSchAP08.pdf

 

[410322]

what do you mean med schools don't accept APs? would that matter to med schools if your college allows you to skip genchem (because you took ap chem in hs)?

Med schools will say "Great, you got a 5 on the AP exam that you studied for in high school with no other cares. Now repeat that in college, because nobody cares about your HS performance." And see the above post for ways to get around it.

 

[ccesssu]

Med schools will say "Great, you got a 5 on the AP exam that you studied for in high school with no other cares. Now repeat that in college, because nobody cares about your HS performance." And see the above post for ways to get around it.

so...
what happens when your college lets you skip it (and go onto upper lvl course)
but med school doesn't accept it?
are you essentially dq'ed from applying to that med school?

 

[deleted357625]

so...
what happens when your college lets you skip it (and go onto upper lvl course)
but med school doesn't accept it?
are you essentially dq'ed from applying to that med school?

If your college lets you skip a science intro course that is needed for med school. You will still need to take it because it is a pre-requirement to medical school, doesn't matter if your UG lets you skip it, you need it period. It has to be on your transcript before you matriculate to med school.

If you skip it fine, that's good, but you have all the years during UG to complete it, when to do it, that's up to you.

 

[410322]

so...
what happens when your college lets you skip it (and go onto upper lvl course)
but med school doesn't accept it?
are you essentially dq'ed from applying to that med school?

No. The school is going to disqualify you if you DON'T do that. The school will have posted " does not accept Advanced Placement credit for this course. Please take an upper-division course as a substitute."

For example, the Johns Hopkins required courses file says:
Credit for advanced placement is not acceptable as a substitute. Individuals who have completed their studies in biology more than 4 years prior to their application are strongly advised to take a one semester advanced mammalian (molecular) biology course.

And from another school:
Requirements cannot be fulfilled by AP credits. If you received AP credit for courses such as general chemistry or biology, you’ll still need 1 semester of chemistry and biology with labs. This can be an advanced chemistry, organic chemistry, or any advanced biology course. Do not re-take coursework for which you already received AP credit.

So, not in your interest to skip anyway (harder classes, easier transition to college, sGPA grade inflation)