Colorado $82,000 for out of state...please help

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Ok...so Colorado's out of state tuition is 82,000 a year. Holy ****. But on here people seem to say that you can easily switch to instate once you go there so you pay 80k for one yr then 20k for each of the next three. Not too bad right?

BUT then today a kid here who got into CU said they changed it and said that you would no longer be able to get on instate tuition after the first year..so he would have to pay 80,000 for FOUR years..


What's the real deal on this? If I got in there would be there any way to become instate and not pay 80,000? Seems INSANE
 
Alaska21 said:
Ok...so Colorado's out of state tuition is 82,000 a year. Holy ****. But on here people seem to say that you can easily switch to instate once you go there so you pay 80k for one yr then 20k for each of the next three. Not too bad right?

BUT then today a kid here who got into CU said they changed it and said that you would no longer be able to get on instate tuition after the first year..so he would have to pay 80,000 for FOUR years..


What's the real deal on this? If I got in there would be there any way to become instate and not pay 80,000? Seems INSANE
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The real deal: Don't apply to Colorado. $80,000 is silly and it's also in Colorado.
 
Alaska21 said:
Ok...so Colorado's out of state tuition is 82,000 a year. Holy ****. But on here people seem to say that you can easily switch to instate once you go there so you pay 80k for one yr then 20k for each of the next three. Not too bad right?

BUT then today a kid here who got into CU said they changed it and said that you would no longer be able to get on instate tuition after the first year..so he would have to pay 80,000 for FOUR years..


What's the real deal on this? If I got in there would be there any way to become instate and not pay 80,000? Seems INSANE
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You can become in-state, but you are charged a penalty for initially being OOS, and still have to pay like $70k (not 82k, but still) I think that is COA, not tuition.
 
I just looked at their website the other day. I thought it said something like 52k per year. I think you may be including living expenses, but 30k is a lot for living expenses. Anyway, if they want to charge me 80k per yr, then there's no chance in hell that I'm going to apply there.
 
Here's an idea: call up the school and talk to someone in financial aid. They may not be as witty as SDNers, but by God they will tell you what it will cost you to go to school there.

$82,000 just for tuition is just, just...ouch, really, wow. They're really milking that desperate OOS rich kid thing.
 
Yeah she explained this at the interview but my mind is a blank right now... something like tuition for 2008-2009 is 82k, and then you could switch to in-state. But for the next years it will be a little lower, but no more switching out. And I have no idea what a little lower means but I thought total cost of attendance would be around 85k now.

I just looked and cannot find my financial aid info anywhere though - most likely I burned it!! So don't consider any of this accurate. Colorado is by far one of the worst schools in terms of state funding, and she quoted one of the old grumpy legislatures saying "I'm not giving any more money to your rich doctors." Ignorant. So tuition will probably just keep going right back up, but at least they're trying!
 
mtnman12 said:
and she quoted one of the old grumpy legislatures saying "I'm not giving any more money to your rich doctors." Ignorant. So tuition will probably just keep going right back up, but at least they're trying!
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:laugh: ....seems like they really know how to sell their school well 🙄
 
If it was the only school that accepted me, I would go. I'll just pay it all off later when I'm a doctor, however long it might take.
Yeah, I'm that desperate.🙄
 
I'm from Colorado. CU SOM has one of the worst endowments of any allopathic medical school. My understanding is that they really don't try to promote their school at all. The school doesn't provide tours at all (but does host two premed days in Spring and Fall for people to visit, but I go to college out of state so I've never been able to go).

Their website is confusing and admissions process confusing. It took me a while to find my way through their website to the admissions requirements. No one who I should talk to to ask about tours, so I got transferred ~4-5 times when I called, only to find out that they don't even have any.

I'm definitely going to apply, since I'm in-state.. I'll see how things go when I visit there (assuming I get an interview). Hopefully they treat potential students differently!
 
So there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. 1st - CU does not allow you to switch your residency once you have applied to the program; 2nd they don't call it non-resident it is called "accountable". So the resident rate is 25k for just tuition and the accountable rate (i.e. OOS) is $50k. I'm not sure what that non-resident rate is, I would posit that it is a foreign national rate.
 
Historically, CU used to charge OOS students $~80k for the first year and then allowed them to be residents so that they would pay $~26k for the last three years.

A few years ago, they switched it so that OOS students would have to pay ~45k per year for all four years. Because, after a year the student is technically a 'resident,' they changed the terminology to 'accountable student' for people who start OOS. For IS students, they changed the terminology to 'sponsored,' meaning that the state pays for some portion of the tuition.
 
themule said:
So there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. 1st - CU does not allow you to switch your residency once you have applied to the program; 2nd they don't call it non-resident it is called "accountable". So the resident rate is 25k for just tuition and the accountable rate (i.e. OOS) is $50k. I'm not sure what that non-resident rate is, I would posit that it is a foreign national rate.
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Yep, that's what I was thinking. But COA is around 80k.
 
Alaska21 said:
Ok...so Colorado's out of state tuition is 82,000 a year. Holy ****. But on here people seem to say that you can easily switch to instate once you go there so you pay 80k for one yr then 20k for each of the next three. Not too bad right?

BUT then today a kid here who got into CU said they changed it and said that you would no longer be able to get on instate tuition after the first year..so he would have to pay 80,000 for FOUR years..


What's the real deal on this? If I got in there would be there any way to become instate and not pay 80,000? Seems INSANE
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A small number of Montana and Wyoming residents receive IS tuition. They mentioned that during a presentation I went to last year and I think it says that in the MSAR also.
 
Ann Chovie said:
A small number of Montana and Wyoming residents receive IS tuition. They mentioned that during a presentation I went to last year and I think it says that in the MSAR also.
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That's true according to CU's website.
 
zenlike said:
Historically, CU used to charge OOS students $~80k for the first year and then allowed them to be residents so that they would pay $~26k for the last three years.

A few years ago, they switched it so that OOS students would have to pay ~45k per year for all four years. Because, after a year the student is technically a 'resident,' they changed the terminology to 'accountable student' for people who start OOS. For IS students, they changed the terminology to 'sponsored,' meaning that the state pays for some portion of the tuition.
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Yes, I'm accepted & starting @ CO in a few months, this is my understanding as well. The 2009-2010 MSAR states OOS tuition is 48,030. Not sure on COA, the school allowed around 1,700 per month living expenses + healthcare & school fees.

In my opinion, the web site leaves quite a bit to be desired; I am seeing 82K there as well when I click the link but believe that this site has not been updated/corrected with the change in policy.

What I found last year, unless your state is a WICHE participant -- there is a way higher chance of being accepted in either your own state's public med school, or OOS private schools. Colorado has something like 70% instate and is pretty highly ranked among primary care schools; if you're looking at the highest chance of acceptance, I'd suggest looking at private schools first. I moved here because I like this state years ago, but it's probably not a good match for lots of people, depending on what you enjoy.
 
Why are you even contemplating this?

UW is sooo much better than colorado anyways.
 
I grew up in Colorado and LOVE it there, plus it's really a good school.

But I wouldn't pay $80k a year to go there. That's ridiculous.
 
Brock Samson said:
Also, the maximum scholarship/grant money you are egligible to receive as an OOS applicant is $5k/year and very few of those $5k scholarships are handed out.
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I think I will not be applying based on this info, and the website's info ($52,460 per yr + ~7% each year). I think Colorado would be an awesome state to live in, but I can find much cheaper OOS schools that are either private or take OOS applicants. The tuition is just ludacris.

Source: http://www.uchsc.edu/som/admissions/faq.htm
 
If this was your only acceptance - I would go, but I would absolutely let the military pay for it. I think this would be a case where no amount of whining from the people who hate their HPSP decision would overrule the value in having no debt if your alternative is 80K in tuition a year.
 
The insane part is that people will pay it, just to be in Colorado. I was an in-state wait list just praying that the OOS acceptance students would decline so that I could get a spot. Not enough did. 🙁 The school is nice, and I would have loved to go there for the convenience of not having to move, but it is not nice enough to warrant that kind of OOS tuition.
 
parafilm said:
I grew up in Colorado and LOVE it there, plus it's really a good school.

But I wouldn't pay $80k a year to go there. That's ridiculous.
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Ditto. I've been a CO resident my whole life except for the last 2 years and absolutely love it there. I've hiked the Colorado trail and explored pretty much every place in the state. My great-grandparents were early settlers and my family has been there ever since. I attended school from elementary through college there. Frankly, it is my home and I'll most likely wind up returning eventually (if anything so I can watch all my favorite sports teams).

I have an acceptance in hand and it would be my top choice except for the matter of tuition. The registrar will not classify me as in-state because I've been gone for almost 2 years. I moved for relationship and employment reasons fully intending to return when feasible. There simply aren't many tech jobs in the state when compared with Silicon Valley. The total COA for OOS, if tuition does not increase, is $299,148. This is enough to make me gag. There is no way in hell I can even consider going back at that price. If I, with all my love for Colorado, am not willing to pay that price, then who is?
 
ChubbyChaser said:
I bet I could find more ppl to back up my claim then yours.
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This some sort of pissing contest? You come into this thread and give nothing but a "UW is better than CO". Awesome now GTFO.
 
ChubbyChaser said:
I bet I could find more ppl to back up my claim then yours.
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I'm not really going to dispute the quality of education at CU vs. UW.

But, I think I could find more people who think that Bud Light is the superior beer when compared Fat Tire than vice-versa. Which, I hope we all know, is absolute fallacy.
 
Denver >= Seattle.

Colorado weather and natural beauty >>>>> most other places in the world.
 
themule said:
This some sort of pissing contest? You come into this thread and give nothing but a "UW is better than CO". Awesome now GTFO.
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Im not entitled to my own opinion? You were the one starting the "pissing contest." If you or anyone else thinks Colorado is worth almost 200K more over 4 years then UW, then god help them.
 
ChubbyChaser said:
Here, let me remind you🙄

I dont speak Instant message either, what is GTFO?
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I don't speak it either, but based on the context I'm pretty sure it means "Get the F*&$ Out". Doesn't seem that hard to figure out--of course I could be wrong it what it means. 🙂

Oh, and I do agree that the OOS tuition is just crazy for CO. It's a great school, but that's just crazy tuition.
 
Barts said:
I don't speak it either, but based on the context I'm pretty sure it means "Get the F*&$ Out". Doesn't seem that hard to figure out--of course I could be wrong it what it means. 🙂
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You are correct. 🙄
 
Bryson17 said:
I think I will not be applying based on this info, and the website's info ($52,460 per yr + ~7% each year). I think Colorado would be an awesome state to live in, but I can find much cheaper OOS schools that are either private or take OOS applicants. The tuition is just ludacris.

Source: http://www.uchsc.edu/som/admissions/faq.htm
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I'd heard the same "tuition rates can be expected to increase 7% per year" also.

But this is quantitatively impossible over even a handful of years; if inflation's around 3% and tuition goes up 7% per year, in 15 years the cost of one year's tuition would go up from 88% of the average household's yearl income (55K now) to 155% of average income. Go out another couple of decades and it would be literally impossible for a physician to pay back their student loans over their working career.

So I guess this is just the school psychologically preparing students for massive, short term higher costs of tuition?
 
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