Columbia P&S Vs. Vanderbilt

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I've been accepted to Vanderbilt and am on Columbia's waitlist. I was unable to attend Vanderbilt's second visit weekend this weekend because of prior arrangements. Could anyone provide me with the pros and cons of these two schools besides the obvious (New York vs. Nashville, Ivy League vs. Non)? I am especially curious about the "social situations," that is, how happy the students are, do they get along, etc. I know that Vanderbilt has the highest rating for student satisfactions, does anyone know what factors are responsible for this. Thanks for any feedback!

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Okay--I've heard people talk about this "student satisfaction survey" before, but have never been able to find it. Do you know anything more about it, or is it an urban legend propagated by certain med schools?
 
I think <a href="http://www.amsa.org/resource/cardev/medresults.cfm" target="_blank">this site</a> is the one you are referring to. It does not have a lot of entries, but can provide one or two opinions of each school by the med students that go there. 🙂
 
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Thanks Doctora. I've seen that site, too, but how can one conclude from it that Vanderbilt is #1. If you look at the "overall satisfaction" rating, Vandy gets a 4.6 on a scale of 1 to 5, but Harvard gets a 5.0, and there are other schools in between. (and Hopkins gets a sorry 4.3) As you said, there are not enough responses to make it significant. It's more like the info that you might get if you visited a campus and took the time to talk to a few students. Maybe there's a different survey out there. However, this one is interesting if for no other reason than that students provide comments-- both pro and con-- and it gives data on # hours/week spent in lecture, preparation for USMLE, etc...
 
Vanderbilt is a great place, I just came back from their second visit weekend; the town-Nashville is very clean, very safe, and very affordable to live; Nashville is endowed with modern structures intermingled with classic buildings, nice malls, wide streets filled with nice cars (not filled with trucks like I thought) People there are not hill-bellies or "R-N" at all, but of course, if you like to hang out with them, you can surely find them near the outskirts of the city and in the countrysides. The city dwellers, especially near Vanderbilt, are exceedingly wealthy, and hence the neighborhood is very upper class, in comparison to Baltimore and Bronx. The city itself is very modern. And people there, at least at Vanderbilt, seemed to come from East and West coasts. The med school education is central to Vanderbilt's belief, and all the students I've talked to, were excited about the place and their future prospects. The match list is impressive. Rent is highly affordable and on-campus parking is $120 a year (not a month but a year). Their recreational center is very modern with olympic-sized pools (filled with breath-taking undergraduate girls-the best in the country, I have to admit), and the center equipped for most sports, some as esoteric as fencing. The only down-side about Vandy is their lack of scholarships to fund their med students, Hopkins does a better job since JHU has so much money to fund their med students. I love Vanderbilt! Although I will be heavily indebt, it is only a small portion of your future payback, consider it as a long-term investment.
 
Thanks doctora for the link and Retro for the info. Does anyone know what the grading system at Vanderbilt is? I have heard they have normal grades, A, B, etc. Is this correct? I have also read that it is very lecture-intense. Does anyone know if this is so? Thanks for the feedback.

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Vanderbilt uses letter grades, 10% of class gets A, and 85% gets B, and only a very small portion gets C or below. This is essentially the same system as "High Honors", "Honors", and "Pass". I was told that the students worked really really hard, but the staff is very supporting, and MSII always help MSI, and it is a tradition they seemed to value. I figure if your board score is high enough, it matters not if your grades are "Honors" (or B), their match list is impressive. Notes are well prepared by the staff, and attending lectures is probably not critical. Hopkins switched to "Honors"/"Pass" system recently, and the only advantage of that is it does not distinguish between B+, B, and B-, whereas letter grades at Vanderbilt probably do.
 
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