Columbia vs CHOP

[bluesteel]

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Any thoughts I am stuck?

 

[Os4prez]

If its all equal.. then go with your gut feeling.

and if all else fails...

location / location / location as they say.

good luck.

im no expert im confused myself between the same 2 places!

 

[bluesteel]

any thoughts about living in philly?

 

[Mohel]

Go Chop

 

[bluesteel]

Go Chop

why?

 

[sscooterguy]

I was talking to my residents, and this question came up because I may be headed to the East Coast next year. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Columbia program has children's department, right? No free standing hospital?

Here are the thoughts from my residents reguarding this (if Columbia is indeed does not have free standing hospital): There are some issues you may have. First of all, the support staff/departments. The example my residents gave me is when you are on call, the people covering radiology may not be peds specialists. All support departments in fact will tend not to be heavily children's specialized...although there generally are at least a designated or fellowship trained person working during the day. Also, the volume of patients may also be smaller. However, I don't have any first hand experience with Columbia, so I don't know what the situation is exactly.

The issue with CHOP, again from what I've heard from my residents and some attendings, is that it is ranked so high because it is generally run by fellows, which can mean less teaching for residents. Of course this is all variable, but thats the consensus that I've gathered. However, I also hear that training is sufficient. More importantly though, because of the stellar reputation as well as connections of CHOP, I also hear that residents get their choice of fellowship. So it may be a trade off you are willing to take, especially if you plan on specializing.

sscooterguy

 

[bluesteel]

In regards to Columbia, we are talking about Columbia University. They have a really nice childrens' hospital, the morgan stanley children's hospital of New york, which is free standing but adjacent to the entire medical campus.

I share your concerns about fellows in general, however I depart from your concerns in regards to CHOP. It seems their system is set up such that only residents can input orders on his/her patients. Thus when decisons/plans are arranged only the resdient can input the orders, so residents are always within the loop of communication.

Any input from the above would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[jackjinju]

Hello,

I'm probably not the best person to comment, since I've only been to both places for fellowship interviews, but I think that you should rank one of these higher purely on your "feel/vibe" of the program and how it fits you, and where you'd like to live. I think as far as one's career is concerned, it's no biggie if you choose one over the other.

Andrew