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is it a myth? is there such a thing as a combined medicine/surgery residency?
 

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frescanese said:
is it a myth? is there such a thing as a combined medicine/surgery residency?
I have never heard of such a program, but your question was intriguing so I went to frieda and looked at all of the listed combined medicine specialties. I could not find a medicine/surgery specialty. So most likely a myth. I would be interested/surprised to know if anyone knows of a specific medicine/surgery program.
 

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frescanese said:
is it a myth? is there such a thing as a combined medicine/surgery residency?

It's a myth. Sometimes it's a lie. A few kids in my school went the whole way through third year telling their residents and attendings that they wanted to do med/surg, so as not to alienate either end of the spectrum. I asked one of them, later if he was still doing "med/surge". He just laughed and said it didn't exist. He figured if he lied and told them all that he was going into their specialty, it would eventually get around on the grapevine and hurt him.
 

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...of Med/Surg is hurting my head. I never want to write a 9 page H and P with a special focus on whether or not my patient is a "meat and potatoes" or a "ruffage with hints of non-red meat" kind of guy.
Here's to a Soc hx that is simply No EtoH, No Tob.

No slight to my medicine folk, god bless them and their intense love of minutia.

:D
 

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valedictorian said:
It's a myth. Sometimes it's a lie. A few kids in my school went the whole way through third year telling their residents and attendings that they wanted to do med/surg, so as not to alienate either end of the spectrum. I asked one of them, later if he was still doing "med/surge". He just laughed and said it didn't exist.

He figured if he lied and told them all that he was going into their specialty, it would eventually get around on the grapevine and hurt hin. People are very lazy. Few people, including myself, will actually go to the trouble of researching something like that. The whole thing is very slimey, I think. Oddly, enough, the kids that pulled this crap were gung ho evangelical christians.
What an idiot this guy was. Most of the attendings probably realized that "med/surg" doesn't exist (even before people came on here saying that it was a myth, it sounded ridiculous, right?) and just thought the guy was a schmuck. Telling the truth about what I wanted to go into never hurt me, and I told all of the surgery attendings during my surgery rotation that I wanted to be a neurologist! (They were, of course, happy to find out later that I was applying for general surgery residency :))
 

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Surgeons practice medicine commonly, but primarily in the critically ill.

A surgery residency coupled with SICU fellowship would be along the lines of what you're thinking, I believe.
 

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I firmly believe you learn at least 90% of what a medicine resident does in thier residency during the first 3 years of a surgery residency for the most part - we can diagnose all the same things, workup acute chest pain and GI bleeds and deal with respiratory issues, we do all the crical care stuff ourselves rather than consulting out to specialists, really everything they do except round all day long, write long H and Ps, and write a whole lotta discharge prescriptions like they have to do. Plus we get to do surgery.

Med/Surg is a nursing specialty - ask the nursing students what they plan to do...many in the hospital will say med/surg which does mean they will work with either medical or surgical patients in the inpatient hospital setting (vs. an outpatient clinic nurse, OR nurse, ER nurse, OB nurse, peds, etc.) There is no such MD residency specializing in "med/surg".