Compare the Ortho programs in NYC area

[Bradsher1984]

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Whats anyone and everyone's opinion on the merits of the various ortho programs? Is it worth spending even more money for the certificate from NYU or would it be better to get a small stipend from Maimonides? My fiancee will most likely be working in NYC after the end of next year when she graduates from Law school, so this is my main target area. Do these programs prefer their own or those from the city?

Rank or comment on:
Columbia U
NYU
Maimonides - Brooklyn
Montefiore / Albert Einstein- Bronx
Stony Brook - L.I.
St Barnabas - Bronx
UMDNJ (its a commutable distance)

Thanks

 

[charlestweed]

Whats anyone and everyone's opinion on the merits of the various ortho programs? Is it worth spending even more money for the certificate from NYU or would it be better to get a small stipend from Maimonides? My fiancee will most likely be working in NYC after the end of next year when she graduates from Law school, so this is my main target area. Do these programs prefer their own or those from the city?

Rank or comment on:
Columbia U
NYU
Maimonides - Brooklyn
Montefiore / Albert Einstein- Bronx
Stony Brook - L.I.
St Barnabas - Bronx
UMDNJ (its a commutable distance)

Thanks

Just try to get in. Doesn't matter which program....they are all accreditted by ADA. Usually 2 year prog are harder to get in than 3 year prog b/c most people want to pay less tuition and to get out to earn money sooner. Of course, prog that offer stipend are much much harder to get in. Personally, I would pick the one that has 2 year training over the one that offers stipent but is a 3 year program. You'll pay it back in no time (don't be afraid to take out student loans)...an extra year early is important b/c this is how long it usually takes for your practice to start picking up if you plan to set it up from scratch.

This is what I know about NYU since my roommate got his ortho certif there (all 5 of my roommates specilized:1os, 2orth,2 endo). NYU accepts 22 residents each year; about half are foreign grads. It is a 22 month program; u start in Sept and finish in June 2 yrs later. Sweeeet Deal!!!!

Are Maimonides - Brooklyn and St Barnabas - Bronx programs ADA accreditted? I've never heard of them....maybe they are new or I just don't know... as you know, I've been out of school for a while.

 

[gryffindor]

All the programs are accredited. St. Barnabas and Maimonides won't look at your application unless you have already graduated dental school.

Edit: are you applying to ortho or just starting dental school?

 

[Bradsher1984]

gryffindor, good call ... actually I was using my little brother's account at the time b/c i was on his comp and it just automatically remembered his screename. Im a rising 3rd year, hell be a D1

 

[ItsGavinC]

The ortho residents here at Stony Brook seem to really like their program. It's a 3 year program though, if that's your cup of tea. But in reality, if you want to do ortho, the extra year probably doesn't matter much as long as you match.

I would apply to all of them, and then narrow the list down after you interview for match purposes.

 

[gryffindor]

Unless you have some solid connection to the NYC programs (your mom/dad/uncle/spouse is a graduate of one, teaches at one, or you are a student at the dental school), then I'd broaden your list of programs to include more outside of the NYC area. If you have stellar stats (high rank/high board) then you might just get your choice of interviews in the NYC area. If not, getting invited to interview can depend on how many of your classmates are applying to those programs and are your competition. Although I interviewed at all the programs on your list except NYU (couldn't even wiggle my toe let alone get my foot in the door there), it was never in the same years because it seemed like others from my class or school got called instead of me in various years. It was absolutely unpredictable why I got called one year and not the next and vice versa.

FWIW, I was a NY hs/college/state dental grad, NY resident for over a decade, did an NYC GPR, did private practice in NYC, bf and parents are still in NYC/NJ, and I intend to return to the area to practice. I tried for 3 years to get into any of those programs on your list and instead matched at a program with a 2 hour flying commute to LaGuardia 😱. In retrospect, I am probably better off at my current program for many reasons, but at the time I really wanted a NY/NJ program match. I guess my advice is sell your location story hard and hope they buy it, otherwise I'd be looking at applying to more schools than just the 7 in the NY area. Well really 5 programs since 2 won't likely look at your application as a senior in dental school.

To add to what charlestweed said, because of the nature of the match process, the #1 priority is to get in and the #2 priority is to get into your best choice program. PM me if you have questions.