Completing Prerequisites at Community Colleges

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This topic has come up a time or two in the last few weeks, I thought I would reintroduce this article back into the non-trad forums as I think it has a few important things to say about the topic. Here's just the key grafs (so I don't get too many tl;dr responses):
Non-traditional premedical students, many of whom are working full-time in other careers, often ask if the same advice that is given to traditional students about prerequisite courses and MCAT scores applies to them as well. Bera would consider the low tuition and convenient schedule and recommend the nontraditional student choose the community college if the added comfort level will contribute to stronger academic performance in prerequisite classes and on the MCAT. Colwell, whose admissions consulting practice is focused on advising non-traditional applicants, has counseled many students who are considering taking medical school prerequisite classes at community college. The process, Colwell says, is the same for all applicants to both allopathic and osteopathic schools, and she encourages non-traditional students to “jump through as many of the traditional premed hoops as possible.” She advises all premedical students, whether traditional or non-traditional, to take their prerequisites “at the most rigorous four-year institution that time and money will allow,” and to do well on the MCAT in order to have the best chance of admission.


It is clear that among the advising sources noted above there is no clear agreement on the assessment of community college science prerequisites in medical school admissions. Having preparation in the basic sciences that leads to an applicant’s best possible performance on the MCAT is essential to gaining admission to medical school. At this point premedical students have to analyze their own situations and make their own choices. Much as we might wish it otherwise, even the experts are divided in their advice.
There's a good discussion in the comments below the article. Now talk amongst yourselves, I have to take the MCAT in 4 hours and need to cram just a little bit more 🙂
 
I did all of my science pre-reqs at CC (9 years after finishing my B.S.) and got a 4.0 in them. I'm still convinced I should have taken them at a 4-year school. The bottom line is, if everything else is equal, an applicant that took them at a 4-year school is more competitive. Live and learn, right?

@ Pons: Hope your MCAT goes well !!! 🙂
 
@ Pons: Hope your MCAT goes well !!! 🙂

Thanks! Fingers are crossed. Happy with my trend...
8/14 AAMC #7 14 13 12
8/16 AAMC #10 11 13 13
8/18 AAMC #4 14 13 13
8/19 AAMC #6 13 13 13

But reading the 8/19 exam thread seems a lot of people were surprised by the content/difficulty. It's a crap shoot. We'll see soon. Now back to learning evolutionary genetics...🙂
 
I did all of my science pre-reqs at CC (9 years after finishing my B.S.) and got a 4.0 in them. I'm still convinced I should have taken them at a 4-year school. The bottom line is, if everything else is equal, an applicant that took them at a 4-year school is more competitive. Live and learn, right?

@ Pons: Hope your MCAT goes well !!! 🙂
That is true, but you could say that of all applicants. If you went to SUNY, a guy from Harvard will be more competitive. And so on. The truth is that you can't be the perfect candidate. Community college should be for those that truly can't afford the 4-year education (like me), and they could supplement it by taking an SMP at a competitive school.
 
That is true, but you could say that of all applicants. If you went to SUNY, a guy from Harvard will be more competitive. And so on. The truth is that you can't be the perfect candidate. Community college should be for those that truly can't afford the 4-year education (like me), and they could supplement it by taking an SMP at a competitive school.

We're on the same page, it's just that the way that this always comes up is someone saying "I graduated 5 years ago with a BA in art history, I want an MD and I need to complete all of my prereqs. Can I do them at a CC or do I have to do them at a 4-year." No, you absolutely don't have to do them at a 4-year institution. And if you can't afford to, well then you can't afford to and you have to do something else no question. But it's a trade off. It isn't a dichotomy that has to be resolved to one side or the other. Going CC may matter so some adcoms. To some it doesn't. But all else being equal, it does make you a stronger applicant. Just like if you could, you'd do your prereqs at UC Berkeley or the Harvard SMP instead of doing them at a CSU, like I am. It would make you a stronger applicant. It just needs to be a factor in the decision making process of planning on how you go from point A (a nontrad) to point B (accepted into a medical program you're happy with.) It doesn't have to be a new thread for every new SDN non-trad asking whether or not they can do their prereqs at a CC. That's my point, I guess.
 
I agree. It's all up to the adcoms, so I guess all we can do is be as competitive as reasonably possible and apply to as many schools as we can. 🙂
 
Going CC may matter so some adcoms.

Yes, it does.

From Case Western's web site:

"If these pre-requisites were not fulfilled at an accredited, four-year, degree-granting American or Canadian college or university, you should be prepared to take at least 1 year of challenging, upper level sciences at one of these institutions prior to application.
If all science pre-requisites were taken at a community college we strongly recommend that you take at least of year of upper-level sciences from an accredited four-year degree granting university within the United States or Canada. If a few science pre-requisite courses were taken at a community college we will evaluate them on a case-by-case basis."


From Wake Forest's web site:


"Prerequisite course work from community colleges is strongly discouraged because of the difficulty in adequately assessing the quality of that preparation. If a prerequisite course is completed at a community college, student must take subsequent courses in that discipline at a four-year college or university in the United States or Canada."


I took all my science pre reqs at a CC because I needed evening classes and didn't have much money. When I went to apply, I found info like this on med school web sites. Only a few schools directly put info on their web sites about this and I wonder how many others basically feel the same way about CC's but don't advertise it. If I could do it over again I would not go the CC route. I'd find a way to take the classes at a 4 year school. Where you take your pre req classes is one aspect of your application that you have control over.
 
Part of that is a reason why I'll do an SMP after my post-bacc work.
 
It seems like an utter waste of time and money to take classes at a CC, KNOWING that they will not be looked well upon, and then taking an SMP to make up for it... If you say right now you don't have time or money, how is an SMP going to save you any time or money? It's at least an additional year, and its a heck of a lot more coin... For the record, most of the schools I have looked at say they "strongly discourage" CC courses, and say that they won't adequately prepare you for the MCAT, but that if you can still pull off a decent MCAT score, they MAY look the other way...
 
There are also members who post here who did all of their pre-reqs at CC and were accepted into medical school, so it's not a complete waste of time, and for some, it may be the only option..
 
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