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Hey guys-

Can someone PLEASE push me in the right direction here. I am getting ready to buy a computer for d-school but I do not know a thing 😳 . I am not some high-tech girl so a computer that works for all my school needs is fine. Of course I want it to have a CD burner and built in wireless, but other than that I am lost. For starters....

1. As a student does it matter if I get a celeron vs centinium. All I know is that celeron is cheaper.

2. How much hard drive memory do we need: 40GB, 60GB or 80GB??

3. Does the processer speed matter an is this much of a difference b/t 1.3GHz and 2.0GHz

4. I like compaq, dells and sony's.... does anyone have any computers that they would recomend

Thanks and sorry for the long post!!
 
Buy as much computer as you can afford. The general rule of thumb is that computers become obsolete after about 3 years, although that number has been increasing lately as processor speeds and advances have slowed their rate of increase. Minimum stats on any PC computer bought for school should be as follows:

(assuming you're looking at a laptop)

512MB RAM
Pentium M 1.8
Built in Wireless card
32MB Video RAM

The key here is to maximize the processor speed, video RAM, and other stuff that's built in. Those are things that are likely built in to the main board itself and can't be changed. I'd take a serious look at the IBM Thinkpad laptops. While they tend to be a little more expensive than other manufacturers, they are built like tanks and have some pretty neat proprietary features. Whatever you buy, make sure that you don't go on the cheap and have something that's obsolete after a year or two in school.
 
Thanks packbacker!! 😀

I guess I should stop looking at the laptops under $1,000 then. Thanks for your help. Time to start searching...
 
frogger33 said:
Thanks packbacker!! 😀

I guess I should stop looking at the laptops under $1,000 then. Thanks for your help. Time to start searching...
If you really want a good laptop with ultra portibility (i'm talkin 2 pounds)...
and a really cool white color😉 go for a sony vaio tr5.
Since they have replaced the tr5 with the new t series (which doesn't look half as cool and has the same specs) you should be able to find one online or at a store for a decent price...somehwere in the range of 2000 bucks probably if that's whithin budget for u...go for it , u'll love it.
 
Laptop snobs may not like Dell since their stuff is so inexpensive, but they are very well made, easy to get parts for, and I have seen the same exact computer for 1/2 the price as a sony (same specs, etc.)

If you really want the best deal for a laptop go here . . .

www.dell.com/save750

. . . and wait until they do this promotion again (usually the end of quarter, which is july 11th, I think, so they will have some great deals around that date)

They periodically have deals where their computers are $750 off the list price. They seem to have them about once every week or two and are available for a few hours until they run out.

Even if you miss this promotion you can usually get a similar one that gets you a very good dell computer for about 1000 dollars after you get the upgrades.
 
Here are some suggestions:

Size: You will see 12" screens up to 17" screens. Try to get a widescreen, they are nicer usually. If you are planning on carrying a laptop around to school everyday, look at the smaller sizes. You will regret having a 17" 8 pound computer after a couple weeks. the 12" ones are usually around 3-4 pounds and are much more portable.

Processor: this affects speed of your computer. I suggest avoiding Celerons and getting pentiums (Pentium M, Pentium 4, and Intel Centrino are all pretty much synonymous). 1.6 Ghz is a very affordable speed as is 1.8 Ghz. avoid the 2.0+ Ghz unless you have lots of money to spend (you are spending about $200 more to have a computer that only runs 10% faster = not worth it IMO)

RAM: This is the computer's temporary memory. If you have less than 512 Mb, your computer will run pretty slow especially when you have lots of applications open. I suggest 1 Gb (1000 Mb) of RAM, and you will see much faster performance. Note that most places overcharge for RAM. If you want to save some money, buy a computer with less RAM and buy the RAM seperately from another source. (PM me for details) This is especially true if you want lots of RAM, like 2Gb+

Hard Drive: You only really need the 40 Gb drives, but usually it is only like $70 to $100 to bump that up to 80 Gb, so go for that. Again, dont get the 100 Gb unless you have lots of money (costs $100 more than the 80 Gb).

Video: In larger laptops you will see separate video cards, in smaller laptops you will see "integrated" video cards. Seperate ones are better, but unless you are planning on playing video games I would not worry about upgrading anything here. IMO, for school a smaller laptop is better anyway.

Also: Make sure you get the Integrated Mobile (Intel Centrino = integrated mobile, otherwise get it as an option). Extended Warranties are usually unnecessary; 0-2 years is plenty, especially when they charge $200+ for them. SOmetimes you are given a choice of battery. Get the cheaper one (4-cell) and you can save some money here too. the more expensive ones last longer, but you can't recharge them as many times and plus they are twice as heavy . . . so it is not as worth it as they make it sound.

CD-ROM: Dont get teh DVD burner unless you do a lot of video editing or you back up your system often. From your post I assume that you really dont get into that stuff. Usually they add about $50 to $100 to the price of your computer, you probably wont use it that much, but if you have th extra $$ it isnt bad to have on the other hand.

In summary, don't just go out and spend all the money you have on a laptop. I disagree with the previous post that says you should buy the best you can afford. The reason why is that there are some things that you need and some that you do not. And most of the time you are paying way more for a feature that you will not use, or does not overall improve your system that much. Saving money on your computer will not make it go obsolete that much faster. If you follow the above guidelines you should be able to get a good laptop for $1,000 to $1,600 and will be able to do anything that anybody else's computer will be able to do.
 
You would need a highly portable laptop as you'll be carrying it around you school. Look into 700m or 600m models by dell. Both of them have great battery life. Also make sure you have a wireless network card built-in. Just to make it easy for you, simply go with the following specs and you'll be all set for the next 4 years:

-Processor: 1.5 GHz and above, preferably Centrino M
-Memory: 256 at least
-Hard Drive (where you store programs): 40 Gig is fine
-DVD Burner is a must or at least a CD burner with DVD playback capability
-Network card with wireless access
-Don't bother with video card, as all laptops have video cards 🙂. Unless you are into heaving gaming stuff... 😉
-Get one with operating system

Now, to get a very good deal on those dell models, start looking into www.fatwallet.com more often... that's where you find coupons and stuff.
 
As I stated earlier, Dell makes a good machine. One pet peeve of mine will keep me from buying one, though. The 'mouse buttons' on the touchpad take a lot of effort to push. My impression is that a cheaper touchpad button is used than in other laptops. Maybe I've been spoiled on Thinkpads, but I'd personally rather spend a little extra for a machine that I can count on for 4+ years.
On another note, Pentium M and Pentium 4 are NOT the same. Pentium M processors are optimized for mobile computing. Generally, computers with P4s will be (for lack of a good term) "faster". On the flip side, laptops with Pentium M's will conserve battery power a LOT more. In terms of hours, a typical P4 will go for about 3 hours while a P-M can go up to 6.

Definitely think of your needs before jumping into a laptop. As the above posters mentioned, a DVD burner on a laptop is generally not a necessity, although DVD playing and CD-burning ARE. You'd be suprised how easy and inexpensive it is to swap files and backup your data with a CD-burner.

Again, good luck!
PB
 
IBM ThinkPad
 
try these guys, i got a custom computer from them that was better than anything else i would have gotten:

www.ahcrllc.com

the guy's number is 816-645-3665

really good at computers. they are all custom, so tell him what you want the computer to be able to do, how long you expect to keep it, that sort of thing.

another nice thing about them, they tell you exactly how things work and what you want to know. ask them anything, seems like they know it all...

good luck
 
frogger33 said:
Hey guys-

Can someone PLEASE push me in the right direction here. I am getting ready to buy a computer for d-school but I do not know a thing 😳 . I am not some high-tech girl so a computer that works for all my school needs is fine. Of course I want it to have a CD burner and built in wireless, but other than that I am lost. For starters....

1. As a student does it matter if I get a celeron vs centinium. All I know is that celeron is cheaper.

2. How much hard drive memory do we need: 40GB, 60GB or 80GB??

3. Does the processer speed matter an is this much of a difference b/t 1.3GHz and 2.0GHz

4. I like compaq, dells and sony's.... does anyone have any computers that they would recomend

Thanks and sorry for the long post!!


wow im surprised at some of the responses. try these out:

1) does what matter? are you planning on modeling in 3d various scientific studies? maybe play intense games with high graphics draw? if you are only doing internet surfing and typical papers/power point, then cpu does not matter. further, unless you are planning on compressing divx movies, i would suggest not getting any intel stuff because that is the only thing it is better at doing than AMD and intel is more expensive.

2) again what will you use it for? just office documents, then 40gb will be more than you will ever need. if you are storing thousands of mp3s and movies then bigger is better. and right now the best cost/gb size ratio is about 160gb hard drive. the cost for a 40gb is about 5 bucks less than a 80gb and the 160gb is maybe 15-20bucks more than an 80gb drive. if you want to got for most bang for you buck, or what you will use it for, or for potentially long use (i.e. going 64bit computing and mass storage and ultra fast communications) then lots of things change. talk to someone who knows about this stuff so they can help you decide.

3) the easiest thing about speed to show is frames per second in games. beyond games, and compression, modeling, you dont need the fastest thing out there. today the slowest cpu still made is about 1.6ghz, and the fastest is about 3.6ghz. the difference in price is 20 fold.

4) see my above post.

things to consider:

portability (laptop vs desktop)
gaming vs office
longevity vs just for Dschool
 
Thanks so much everyone!! You have helped me lots 😀
 
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