Conditional Permanent Resident applying for med school?

[MrWhite]

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This is an unusual question, but also due to its uniqueness this community is probably the closest source I have to finding my answer.

First of all, a little background for those who are unfamiliar with conditional permanent resident (CPR), in case you might find someone who has the knowledge I seek. CPR is a temporary permanent residence status (equivalent to a green card) that will expires in 2 years upon receiving. This status is generally given to non-residents who have married a U.S. citizen under good faith. Essentially, there is no difference between the permanent residence (PR) green card and CPR green card in terms of rights, but CPR is only good for 2 years and a petition to remove the condition must be submitted 90 days before its expiration (by which you will recieve a 10 years green card upon a successful petition).

To my knowledge, medical schools generally consider only the U.S citizens and permenant residence candidates, unless the foreign student has extraordinary traits that can convince the school to accept him/her as medical student. Peronsally, I don't think I am that kind of genius kid that can be considered as the latter. But even if I am, I wouldn't be able to give them a proof that I can pay my 4 years worth of tuition with no sweat (as required).

Does anyone know if CPR will be treated as regular permanent resident, or as a foreign applicant?

It would be normal to assume that CPR is treated as regular PR, since CPR gets all the rights as a PR. But it's undeniable that there is a 2 years expiration date on it, so I can't help but to think that they might treat it differently.

Hopefully someone out there whom have a friend or a lawyer friend familiar with this information. This is kind of important for me since it dictates whether I should be focusing on med school application asap, or do I have to wait for my 10 year green card before applying.

Thanks.

 

[nothingman]

I know this process well. I'm almost 100% sure that the conditional PR status shouldn't be a problem - unless there is a problem with your marriage that jeopardizes the reason why you got the PR status. I would go ahead and apply now, since with the two year GC you are allowed to have full employment, drivers license, and benefits that the 10 year GC gives you. What I will guess will happen is that in your 2nd year of med school or whenever your CPR status expires, the school will ask you for verification that you got the 10 year green card.

In general, if you got the two year green card and passed that scrutiny, and continued to live together and have further evidence of building a common life together, the removal of conditions is usually quite easy. Save your joint bank account slips, joint rental/housing agreement, photos of the two of you, affidavits from people who've known you stating you're happily married, etc. Just be careful not to miss the time window (it's quite narrow) to get the application in.

I'm not an immigration lawyer, but I would also advise you to check in with a good one (not just a "lawyer buddy"). Most charge about $75 for consultation. I think with questions like these, it's money well spent - and would be all you need. If you're extra worried, check in with the school as well.

Good luck!

 

[BarcaBest23]

Don't think it will be a problem..... BUT .... it might get brought up during your interview (my status as a PR did) which apparently is bordering on unethical but still everything is fair game during the interview. Basically, I was asked why a simple PR like myself should have the luxury of receiving an acceptance from a US medical school while 1000s of US citizens are forced to go to foreign medical schools (caribbean/australia/etc.) due to limited space.... GULP!!! Brings up a good point and make sure you have a good response to this and also hit the points as to why that school needs YOU there and what you bring to the table etc.

Unfortunately, I do have to say that I do think there is a slight bias towards US citizens vs PR just because of the heavy competitition and when all else is equal US medical schools rightfully should choose their own (sucks yes but what are ya gonna do)?

Best of luck and pm me if you have any further questions as I have dealt with this issue first hand this past year during my app process.

 

[yusanshui]

I am in the exact same situation! Mine is a bit tricky since my conditional green card will expire right before the first semester starts (if I get admitted). So...I hope they could consider me as a permanent resident as long as my green card is valid when I apply. Well, normally, they should't look at 'future expiration', but who knows....I don't even know which office I should ask this about, since the admission office does not know the difference bt a conditional green card and a normal green card..........Anyone has experience? Thanks!

 

[Juicec]

Under all circumstances a conditional permanent residency is permanent residency is permanent residency. End of story.

Medical schools will not no otherwise. Additionally, when the restrictions are removed your 10 year green card will date to the inception of the first 2 year card creating no lapses and even the same A#.

I have personal experience with the matter, and I am right.

/end thread

 

[plauto]

You will be fine. Apply now. There is no distinction on the application between pr and cpr.

 

[45408]

Don't think it will be a problem..... BUT .... it might get brought up during your interview (my status as a PR did) which apparently is bordering on unethical

Not necessarily - the school doesn't want to admit someone who won't be able to become a true permanent resident/citizen and could potentially not be able to complete med school. That reflects poorly on them.

Basically, I was asked why a simple PR like myself should have the luxury of receiving an acceptance from a US medical school while 1000s of US citizens are forced to go to foreign medical schools (caribbean/australia/etc.) due to limited space.... GULP!!!

But that's kind of a weird question.

 

[qbfyre]

You should go ahead and apply. I am in a similar situation, and I applied to 25 schools and only 5 schools actually asked for the copy of the green card. The schools don't know and don't care that you are conditional PR and there is no option box for that, so you are fine.

 

[Asgardian]

I am in similar situation with the OP, and my case is slightly more awkward. I am petitioning to remove the condition, and my conditional green card already expired while the case is pending. As many schools ask for a copy of green card on the secondaries, what should I send them ?

I hope someone with experience on this can help me out here.. Thanks very much !

 

[FattySlug]

No need to sweat man. My cousin whom I talk to regularly is a conditional PR and he got in this year. He was worried about the same thing but did not even get asked about it during interviews.

 

[FattySlug]

I am in similar situation with the OP, and my case is slightly more awkward. I am petitioning to remove the condition, and my conditional green card already expired while the case is pending. As many schools ask for a copy of green card on the secondaries, what should I send them ?

I hope someone with experience on this can help me out here.. Thanks very much !

If you are applying to remove the condition then you should have an extension letter. Send that along with your expired green card. That's the best you can do at this point.

 

[Asgardian]

If you are applying to remove the condition then you should have an extension letter. Send that along with your expired green card. That's the best you can do at this point.

The extension letter says they extend only 1 year. Would that make the adcom wonder about my PR status and whatnot since they may not be familiar with the process ?

 

[FattySlug]

The extension letter says they extend only 1 year. Would that make the adcom wonder about my PR status and whatnot since they may not be familiar with the process ?

They might care or they might not. My cousin's conditional PR was expiring in a year when he applied too and no school asked about it. He got 3 interviews and got into 2. This is something you cannot hurry or do anything about it. Just focus on other aspects that you can improve. Good luck.

Edit: If they ask for the green card then send the card, the extension letter and maybe a short letter explaining your situation.

 

[Asgardian]

They might care or they might not. My cousin's conditional PR was expiring in a year when he applied too and no school asked about it. He got 3 interviews and got into 2. This is something you cannot hurry or do anything about it. Just focus on other aspects that you can improve. Good luck.

Edit: If they ask for the green card then send the card, the extension letter and maybe a short letter explaining your situation.

I will send those and hope for the best. Thank you for the tips.

 

[Medschoolboy88]

I am in a similar situation,

For those of you who have applied and perhaps got accepted. Do they ask for a copy of the CPR card? The reason I ask is because I want to apply this summer but I am in the process still and will be obtaining my CPR card probably around Oct but I want to obviously apply at a much earlier time. Any help? advice?

 

[LChristmas]

They will want to see proof that you have filed. Keep your I-797C to show them. Are your filing for adjustment of status or filing from abroad? I'm assuming it is through marriage.

 

[Medschoolboy88]

They will want to see proof that you have filed. Keep your I-797C to show them. Are your filing for adjustment of status or filing from abroad? I'm assuming it is through marriage.

I filed for Adjustment of status (through marriage) not too long ago, my lawyer told me that it should take between 4-6 months. I want to apply early though so that I have a higher chance to get accepted, my concern is that what if they ask for a copy of my residency card when they send the Supplementary packet and I do not have it? Do they ask for it? or do you do all of that paperwork the spring before starting med school (I know that's when students apply for loans and stuff). Any info on that? I live in NE and plan on applying in-state

 

[LChristmas]

Definitely apply as early as possible. A change in residency status is a great excuse to send an update to schools. My advice would be to send a quick email to all schools when you get your interview date, and then again when you are approved. Also, don't be too discouraged if you don't get any love being an international. There will be many more options open to you once you are a Permanent Resident. Just make sure you are honest with the schools at every step of the way.

I would be happy to discuss things further with you over PM; given the unique nature of our cases it wouldn't be hard for future classmates to figure out who we are.

 

[jazziey]

This is an unusual question, but also due to its uniqueness this community is probably the closest source I have to finding my answer.

First of all, a little background for those who are unfamiliar with conditional permanent resident (CPR), in case you might find someone who has the knowledge I seek. CPR is a temporary permanent residence status (equivalent to a green card) that will expires in 2 years upon receiving. This status is generally given to non-residents who have married a U.S. citizen under good faith. Essentially, there is no difference between the permanent residence (PR) green card and CPR green card in terms of rights, but CPR is only good for 2 years and a petition to remove the condition must be submitted 90 days before its expiration (by which you will recieve a 10 years green card upon a successful petition).

To my knowledge, medical schools generally consider only the U.S citizens and permenant residence candidates, unless the foreign student has extraordinary traits that can convince the school to accept him/her as medical student. Peronsally, I don't think I am that kind of genius kid that can be considered as the latter. But even if I am, I wouldn't be able to give them a proof that I can pay my 4 years worth of tuition with no sweat (as required).

Does anyone know if CPR will be treated as regular permanent resident, or as a foreign applicant?

It would be normal to assume that CPR is treated as regular PR, since CPR gets all the rights as a PR. But it's undeniable that there is a 2 years expiration date on it, so I can't help but to think that they might treat it differently.

Hopefully someone out there whom have a friend or a lawyer friend familiar with this information. This is kind of important for me since it dictates whether I should be focusing on med school application asap, or do I have to wait for my 10 year green card before applying.

Thanks.

I am on the same boat. I have Conditional Resident Card for 2yrs from now. Thinking to get admission in some Caribbean Medical School. As per my knowledge, can a CR1 green card study in Caribbean without effecting on my greed card? Can I leave outside U.S. for 18-20 months? I can come back and forth every 4 months and stay in U.S. for at least 15 days. Would this effect on my CR1 green card after 2 yrs and while applying removing conditional 90 days before green card expires. OR we have to stay in U.S. for at least 2 yrs showing that you have spend time with your husband/wife, knowing each other well, working n paying taxes to govt. A trip or vacation pics collection in those 2 yrs. I mean showing your marriage, getting settled with everything or getting use to with everything. they might see our both understanding, like-dislikes and much more.
What is important in those 2 yrs studying outside U.S. or Save the green card?

 

[UBLI-EINSTEIN]

I think conditional permanent residency (CPR) is not equivalent to permanent residency (PR).
You can not be sure that you will finally get a true green card.
If you end up not having PR, then logically speaking you are no longer eligible studying in the schools that don't accept international students.
So, CPR is equivalent to a pending PR, but is absolutely different from PR. OP will still be treated as foreign applicants. That's all about it.

 

[FutureDrET]

I am on the same boat. I have Conditional Resident Card for 2yrs from now. Thinking to get admission in some Caribbean Medical School. As per my knowledge, can a CR1 green card study in Caribbean without effecting on my greed card? Can I leave outside U.S. for 18-20 months? I can come back and forth every 4 months and stay in U.S. for at least 15 days. Would this effect on my CR1 green card after 2 yrs and while applying removing conditional 90 days before green card expires. OR we have to stay in U.S. for at least 2 yrs showing that you have spend time with your husband/wife, knowing each other well, working n paying taxes to govt. A trip or vacation pics collection in those 2 yrs. I mean showing your marriage, getting settled with everything or getting use to with everything. they might see our both understanding, like-dislikes and much more.
What is important in those 2 yrs studying outside U.S. or Save the green card?

I need to know this information as well I’m in the same boat

 

[gyngyn]

I need to know this information as well I’m in the same boat

That member has not been seen in two years...

 

[notsobabydoc]

This is an unusual question, but also due to its uniqueness this community is probably the closest source I have to finding my answer.

First of all, a little background for those who are unfamiliar with conditional permanent resident (CPR), in case you might find someone who has the knowledge I seek. CPR is a temporary permanent residence status (equivalent to a green card) that will expires in 2 years upon receiving. This status is generally given to non-residents who have married a U.S. citizen under good faith. Essentially, there is no difference between the permanent residence (PR) green card and CPR green card in terms of rights, but CPR is only good for 2 years and a petition to remove the condition must be submitted 90 days before its expiration (by which you will recieve a 10 years green card upon a successful petition).

To my knowledge, medical schools generally consider only the U.S citizens and permenant residence candidates, unless the foreign student has extraordinary traits that can convince the school to accept him/her as medical student. Peronsally, I don't think I am that kind of genius kid that can be considered as the latter. But even if I am, I wouldn't be able to give them a proof that I can pay my 4 years worth of tuition with no sweat (as required).

Does anyone know if CPR will be treated as regular permanent resident, or as a foreign applicant?

It would be normal to assume that CPR is treated as regular PR, since CPR gets all the rights as a PR. But it's undeniable that there is a 2 years expiration date on it, so I can't help but to think that they might treat it differently.

Hopefully someone out there whom have a friend or a lawyer friend familiar with this information. This is kind of important for me since it dictates whether I should be focusing on med school application asap, or do I have to wait for my 10 year green card before applying.

Thanks.

CPR is treated the same as PR.

 

[StarSpangled]

CPR is treated the same as PR.

Mostly true. Of the 14 schools I applied to (9 state, 5 DO), one of those schools (DO) placed my application on hold because they would not consider PCR. Said I could let them know when my PR card was approved. I’d say call and ask.