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I'm applying to get into pharm school for 07. So I am a little new but here are my questions:

1. What is the difference between an "Internship" and "Residency"?

2. How easy might it be for a former pharmacy tech to secure an internship position in a retail store for 1st year student.

3. How many hours a week does a 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, 4th year student work as an intern on average?

4. I am very confident I will get into pharm school for 07. Should I start applying for an internship position now?

5. Can you give me a rough estimate of the % of 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year students that are interns?

I guess this is all I have for now. Thanks.
 
1. An internship is what you do BEFORE you become a licensed pharmacist. 1500 hours of internship is required to sit for the NAPLEX exam. A residency is a post-graduate training. Most residency programs expect you to be a licensed pharmacist (i.e. having passed the NAPLEX + state exam) in order to start your residency program

2. It's quite easy (in my opinion) for a pharm tech to obtain an internship position. I'm a first year student with almost no previous experience and I've been able to obtain one just this week.

3. On average I think is about 8-20 hours. Of course, this is a very personal question, depending on your own schedule and work load.

4. There's NO WAY you can obtain an internship before you are accepted into pharm school. In order to work as an intern pharmacist, you need to have your intern license (which can be obtained only AFTER you're matriculated into pharm school). And NO, a tech license CANNOT sub for an intern license.

5. I've no idea. Not sure if anybody can answer this question.

I'm applying to get into pharm school for 07. So I am a little new but here are my questions:

1. What is the difference between an "Internship" and "Residency"?

2. How easy might it be for a former pharmacy tech to secure an internship position in a retail store for 1st year student.

3. How many hours a week does a 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, 4th year student work as an intern on average?

4. I am very confident I will get into pharm school for 07. Should I start applying for an internship position now?

5. Can you give me a rough estimate of the % of 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year students that are interns?

I guess this is all I have for now. Thanks.
 
There's also another thing I want to mention. How can you be confident that you will be accepted. Have you had any interviews yet? If you have and performed well (or at least feel that way), then you have a reason to be confident. If you have not had any interview and feel confident bc your GPA and other stats are good, I'd recommend you think again. An interview is very important. A bad performance in your interview will make any 4.0 GPA, 95 percentile PCAT or any other fancy stats become meaningless. I'm saying this bc it happened to many friends of mine.
Best luck to you!
 
3. On average I think is about 8-20 hours. Of course, this is a very personal question, depending on your own schedule and work load.

Is there a way to negotiate this? I will be at a 3 year institution. So I anticipate a heavy load and was looking for 10 hours/week.

Also, lets say your looking to do retail pharmacy, and you get a retail internship. Do interns usually stick with that particular retail company until they graduate or do they move around to different retailers to become familiar with everyone's computer systems?

4. There's NO WAY you can obtain an internship before you are accepted into pharm school. In order to work as an intern pharmacist, you need to have your intern license (which can be obtained only AFTER you're matriculated into pharm school). And NO, a tech license CANNOT sub for an intern license.

When do you think the best time to apply is? I was thinking there was a way to apply early for Fall 2007 when I am matriculated. Or do I have to wait until the first day of school before I start sending my resumes out?


There's also another thing I want to mention. How can you be confident that you will be accepted. Have you had any interviews yet? If you have and performed well (or at least feel that way), then you have a reason to be confident. If you have not had any interview and feel confident bc your GPA and other stats are good, I'd recommend you think again. An interview is very important. A bad performance in your interview will make any 4.0 GPA, 95 percentile PCAT or any other fancy stats become meaningless. I'm saying this bc it happened to many friends of mine.
Best luck to you!

Yea I do agree that the interview can make you or break you. I am hoping to do moderately well on the interview and hope that my stats, can extracurriculars, and work exp. can WOW em. But all that aside, from what I heard, Albany only looks at GPA. But i've got plenty more to give to them if they decide to look for it 🙂
 
Is there a way to negotiate this? I will be at a 3 year institution. So I anticipate a heavy load and was looking for 10 hours/week.
That's something you can negotiate with the pharmacy manager (or whoever hires you) when you're accepted into an intern position.

Also, lets say your looking to do retail pharmacy, and you get a retail internship. Do interns usually stick with that particular retail company until they graduate or do they move around to different retailers to become familiar with everyone's computer systems?

Some ppl stick while others move around. That's my best guess.


When do you think the best time to apply is? I was thinking there was a way to apply early for Fall 2007 when I am matriculated. Or do I have to wait until the first day of school before I start sending my resumes out?

Like I said, you need to have your intern license. That was they first thing they asked me for when I applied. I got my license about 1 month after class started.



Yea I do agree that the interview can make you or break you. I am hoping to do moderately well on the interview and hope that my stats, can extracurriculars, and work exp. can WOW em. But all that aside, from what I heard, Albany only looks at GPA. But i've got plenty more to give to them if they decide to look for it 🙂

I only have exp with interviews with schools in CA so I cant really speak for your state. The schools in CA that I interviewed at asked not so much about yourself. They asked a lot of questions to see if you know what are the roles and functions of pharmacists in the health care system nowadays. Major changes in the profession? Challenges facing pharmacy and health care as a whole? Are you aware of current topics in health care delivery system? If you can impress them with those knowledge, that speaks for you more than any credentials you may show them (Once again, I can only share my own exp, i cant speak for all schools).
 
Thanks for the tip pharmtastic.

Can you recommend me to any good websites that would bring up any current issues in pharmacy?

Also, in your opinoin do you think its a good idea for an intern to bounce around to different retail pharmacies? I would imagine this is the way to get the most of your experience.
 
1. An internship is what you do BEFORE you become a licensed pharmacist. 1500 hours of internship is required to sit for the NAPLEX exam.

doesn't this vary by state? i know this is true in GA, but i think FL is different. according to FL's site it says "any graduate with a pharmd after 2001 will not have to submit intern hours to the board."
 
I've never heard anything about intern hours in Illinois. We are required to have a certain number of practice hours with the university. They told us they keep track of this number, and that when we graduate, we will have no problems with the minimum NAPLEX sitting requirements.
 
Thanks for the tip pharmtastic.

Can you recommend me to any good websites that would bring up any current issues in pharmacy?

Also, in your opinoin do you think its a good idea for an intern to bounce around to different retail pharmacies? I would imagine this is the way to get the most of your experience.

my school places us in 3-4 different retail settings during the years and summer. those are the free hours. my paid hours are done for 1 company. I always think about flipping to the other dark chain, but mine pays the best so I stick there.
 
Can you recommend me to any good websites that would bring up any current issues in pharmacy?

I just spent time googling them. Plus, you can check out pharmacy organization websites such as those of the APhaA, ASHP, CSHP, ACPE...

Also, in your opinoin do you think its a good idea for an intern to bounce around to different retail pharmacies? I would imagine this is the way to get the most of your experience.

I'm a 1st year student so I don't have much exp to answer this. Anybody else can give a thought?
 
doesn't this vary by state? i know this is true in GA, but i think FL is different. according to FL's site it says "any graduate with a pharmd after 2001 will not have to submit intern hours to the board."

Florida no longer requires you to keep track of your internship hours because the curriculum is set up to provide all the internship experience needed by the board while you are in school. So when you graduate, you will have fullfilled the requirements that the FL board requires. It is still a very good idea to keep track of any internships you do outside of school, say during summer break, in case you want to practice in another state one day. Otherwise, getting licensed elsewhere can be a big hassle depending that state's requirements.
 
1. What is the difference between an "Internship" and "Residency"?

2. How easy might it be for a former pharmacy tech to secure an internship position in a retail store for 1st year student.

3. How many hours a week does a 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, 4th year student work as an intern on average?

4. I am very confident I will get into pharm school for 07. Should I start applying for an internship position now?

5. Can you give me a rough estimate of the % of 1st year, 2nd year and 3rd year students that are interns?

1.) Already answered but i'll contribute...internship is basically so you learn how a pharmacy operates and so you get to learn how to be a pharmacist in a practice setting (i.e. counseling, confirming RXs, checking dosages, etc, depending on what your state laws are). Residency is for post-grads who want additional practice-based learning in pharmacy, usually in a hospital or specialty setting.

2.) Depends on whether you want to get paid. Some pharmacy schools make you complete your IPPE (introductory pharmacy practice experience...those 1500 hours you need in most states to take the boards) by going to a retail pharmacy for a couple hours a week and you "shadow" a pharmacist. This might be considered being an intern, but you don't get paid and from what I understand, you basically work as a tech for free to get credit thru school. Since you're working for free, who wouldn't want you? Of course, everyone wants money, bringing me to my next point...

Now, if you go to a coop school like mine, or if you work during the summer, and you want to get a 4 month paid full time internship, or perhaps just work part time while in school, this is somewhat harder, since the place actually has to pay you. For the full time internships, it really depends on the budgets. Most retail places don't mind hiring interns...if they need techs, they can use interns. Same difference. Hospitals are slightly harder to get a job at, since they usually want experience. If a hospital is non-profit, I think it's easier to get hired, since budgets aren't as big of a concern. I applied to a for-profit community hospital in my hometown, and they weren't interested because "they have an intern and they dont want to go over budget". Sends me into fits of laughter every time.

3.) My theory is that the more school you have, the less you work. My P1 year, I did roughly 20 hours a week. It usually depends on whether you have tests and whatnot...and the higher up in year you go, the harder the tests, and the more you have to study...

By the time you're at P4 and on rotations, you're basically doing 40 hours a week of learning. Doesn't really give you that much time to work.

4.) Nope.

5.) Everyone at my school is an intern. 100%. Save for the people who did internships without actually getting a license (and then getting into a deep pile of scat). Every single classmate of mine has had at least 1 pharmacy job, if not more...Whether or not you work during a school semester is another question altogheter. As far as that's concerned, the only people I know of who don't work (or work rarely, like once a month) during school are people who are really dedicated to maintaining their 4.0 or people who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
 
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