Considering Double Major - Music and Bio

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I've read a lot about you can major in whatever you want for Med School, but I really would like to major in both Biology AND Music (this would technically be a dual degree - BS in Bio and BA in Music.) I'll be starting college in January. Dos anyone have any tips on how to plan out my courses, how difficult my first semester classes should be, etc.?

Thanks!
 
I've read a lot about you can major in whatever you want for Med School, but I really would like to major in both Biology AND Music (this would technically be a dual degree - BS in Bio and BA in Music.) I'll be starting college in January. Dos anyone have any tips on how to plan out my courses, how difficult my first semester classes should be, etc.?

Thanks!

Differs by school. If you're most interested in medicine, speak with a pre-health adviser before signing up for classes. We can literally do nothing for you other than say "take all your prereqs."

Honestly, I'd say just stick to the music major and make sure you take all your prereqs. Everyone and their dog is a bio major and it does nearly nothing for you. Make sure you kill it in your science courses, and if you love music you should have no problem killing it in those as well.

Moral of the story: Get a ridiculously high GPA, participate in extracurriculars as much as possible, and knock the MCAT dead.
 
I'm a Spanish and Chemistry double major, and what I did was pack science classes into my first two years to have a good base for the MCAT, then these last two years, I've been focusing more on my Spanish degree. I'm really glad I did it that way, it's worked pretty well for me.

Even if you don't do it that way, stick with the music major, you won't regret it!

Good luck!
 
Thanks for the tips guys - I will definitely stick with the music major for sure! I really do love Biology too though and that's why I was considering the double major.
 
Thanks for the tips guys - I will definitely stick with the music major for sure! I really do love Biology too though and that's why I was considering the double major.

I loved Biology, too.

Then I realized the first two years of it only about 50% of it has anything to do with invertebrate biology.
 
How many credits is the music major? From what I heard, music is one of those "killer majors" kind of like dance, musical theatre and voice where you can be stuck taking 15+ classes that are 1credit, 1.5 credits each (because the government can't force students to take more than 18 credits so they make the credits smaller so you can take 15 classes). I must put it out there that I am not a music major myself but I have tons of friends who are dance, music, music ed and theatre majors and their schedules are ridiculous because a music major is just very demanding. And in addition to their classes they take, they have to put off more time practicing and also more time for recitals and practice for shows on top of their 15 classes and individual practice. And my friends and I do not go to a top school, we go to an average state school where everyone goes to when they graduate high school and from what my friend's have told me, some music program's are 5 years not 4. Our music program is nothing special, it's good but I think its very average so I would think most schools are like this as well. At my school the english major (for example) is 35 credits, biology major is 60 credits, MUSIC-with a concentration in performance is 97 credits!!!! MUSIC-education is even more than that too. (at least at my school). A music minor is also 50 credits at my school, thats only ~3 less classes than a biology major and thats ONLY a minor in music.

I am really not trying to scare you!!! But please for the love of everything good, please look into this!!! I too think that you should just do the pre-req's definitely don't double major, are you sure that you can handle all of the coursework of a music major on top of the difficult science pre-req's AND be able to shadow doctors, do community service, build good LOR's, study for the mcat? You will be competing with people who have all of these things and more, a music major won't make up for a lack of these things on your application.

If you are crazy smart, barely have to study to get A's and don't mind having your day full and not many breaks while you are in college then go for it!

Sorry for the rant! Just please check before you actually get into the classes and it's too late! Talk to a pre-med advisor and check exactly how many credits the music major is and how many credits you need to take the pre-req's, map out what your schedule will look like and also talk to somebody from the music department, not just the person from the pre-med department because the pre-med advisor will barely know anything about music and scheduling so definitely talk to the music department.

Best of luck to you!!! 😀
 
And one more thing!!! I'm a philosophy major, non science major, and I love it! don't let other people discourage you from pursuing a different major when you want to go to medical school. Philosophy is by far one of the most worthless degrees you can get unless you go to grad school but I am very happy with it and adcom's love seeing "different majors" other than the regular biology, chemistry and such, it brings something new to the table!
 
HAHA. I laughed when I saw this topic. I am literally doing the exact same thing you are planning on doing. Going into my junior year enrolled as a molecular and cellular biology BS (much less boring than a traditional biology BS, I would look into if your school has something like this) and general music BA.

All those horror stories you hear about music students having no life/2341231 classes are not true. At least, they won't be true for you if all you are doing is pursuing a BA. The crazy ones are BM students - bachelor of MUSIC. The requirements for that are MUCH more stringent, they have a lot more classes to take, and the recital/performance requirements are generally much higher. Granted, you are going to be taking a few 1/2 credit classes that meet for way more hours than they are supposed to, but if you love music it's really not so bad 🙂. Music classes can be a bit hard, so don't underestimate them. Theory 1+2, and especially EAR TRAINING can be killer if you don't have much natural talent to fall back on, but it can be done (I managed an A at least, heh).

I will add this caveat: I came into college with 50~ some credits out of the 120 needed to graduate, so I have had a LOT more time. I don't think I could have done it without the extra credits from high school. To do this kind of thing, you really have to look at your school's graduation requirements carefully and see whether you can even fit in all the classes in 4 years. After that, you also have to realize that you may want to take some research classes or join extracurriculars, so there needs to be space in your schedule for THAT too. Lots of careful planning is needed, don't just rush into this. If you do end up just doing music, I would recommend going for more than just a BA. Bachelor of music is just cooler because it is so much more performance based (and of course you have to take more theory classes, but theory isn't all bad). You will have to audition to get into a BM program though (much like the BA audition, just more focused on your technical abilities).

Here's what my schedule typically looks like every semester:

3 credits - private lesson (req'd every semester)
1 credit- concert choir (you will probably have to take an ensemble class like this every semester)
1 credit "convocational" - basically just a once a week, 1 hour long recital featuring students of various instruments/majors.
4 credits- theory and ear training (you will probably have something like this every semester)
3 credits music history (for a year you might have to have theory + history in the same semester)
4 credits biology + lab (I never took the second part of general bio...lol)

I also have a 3 credit translational research class, but that's not really a "class" in that I don't study for it, I just have an 8 hour time commitment/week. Private lessons are variable as far as time commitment goes. You can practice however much or little you want, but these are generally graded and dependent on how well you do on juries, and a 3 credit B is just bad no matter how you spin it. My school requires that you attend all recitals in your instrument, which means about once/twice a week you will have to attend a 1-2 hour recital, usually on a saturday or sunday. Your ensemble classes will meet for about 4 hours a week, but they are usually very fun (compared to high school where everyone sucks). Theory/ear training is just like any other class with a lab.

If you think you can handle 2-3 science classes on top of 10~ credits of music every semester (which will translate to probably around 20~ hours time commitment per week, including practice/rehearsals/recitals), some studying you'll have to do for theory/ear training, I think it's very doable. A BS in biology might be a little hard to swing because of the increased general education requirements if you don't have a lot of credits from high school, but if you put your mind to it I'm sure it's possible. Just make sure you don't overwhelm yourself and end up with a bad first semester GPA...

It all sounds like a lot, but in practice it's not nearly as bad as it seems. For the most part, if you enjoy music and playing the instrument that you've chosen, it's less of a chore than it is just something you do for fun. Good luck! 🙂

EDIT: I just read through MDWannabe90's post...Sounds like s/he's been talking to a lot of melodramatic music majors out there (which believe me, there are a lot...) Don't listen to the hearsay. Listen to me 😀
 
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I studied music for two years, and I literally had no life outside of practice rooms, rehearsals, and lessons. However, I was studying music with the intention of becoming a professional musician. When I decided on medicine, I put all of my effort into it. IMO if you want to become a professional musician, you need to give it all you got. Same goes for medicine. But if you want to study music as something on the side, you can do that too. Just don't get any delusions that you will be the top dog in both your music and pre-med programs.

That being said, I love music and I'd never discourage anyone from pursuing it. And hey, maybe you are the 1/1,000,000 kind of guy who can be a world class musician and get into a good US MD program. If so... I hate you just a little bit 🙂
 
panroasted you saved me a lot of typing time! i agree with a lot of what you are saying. i actually graduated with a BA in music and biology and chem minor. I started out BM and yes it is killer. music majors (full BM or BME if your education majors) literally live at the music building. When I went into college there were about 6 or 7 people I knew who said they were premed and music (we all enrolled as BM majors) everyone dropped the premed/ science part except one other student I know. I believe he graduated BM, but he was one of those really really hard working types, studying constantly (and one of the people who asked questions to the professor in every class about everything) On top of that he was great at musicianship (or ear-training/eight singing). I on the otherhand, did music for fun, I just wanted to be able to play my cello several more years before it would accumulate dust when i start med school so I switched to BA. But even then being a music double major is not your typical double major. music has all these hidden hours (you get 1 credit hour for orchestra, but you meat for 3.5 hours a week, and on top of that you have to practice orchestra music so I would say it's prob 5-6 hours a week for ONE credit hour) so take that into consideration. I also transferred with a lot of credit hours as well so I was able to finish in 4 years. However most of my semesters I was taking 18 credit hours. (This does not factor in the recitals I had to attend, practice and other mis. that comes with being a music major)

basically bottom line: be prepared for a lot of work!
 
basically bottom line: be prepared for a lot of work!

This x1000. Another double music and biology major here! My undergrad life basically consisted of 18-19 credits per semester, a full courseload every summer and sometimes 12hr days of just sitting in classes/rehearsals/labs. It was also a scheduling nightmare by my junior and senior years. As hard as it was, I would do it all over again in a heartbeat!
 
all these music/bio doubles...! and here I thought music might make my application stand out a bit more. I just hope we aren't all applying to the same schools, hah.
 
Thanks so much for all this info guys! I'm really glad to see that some people have been successful at doing this!

So I checked, and the requirements for a BS in Biology with a Pre-Professional Concentration are 61 credit hours and a BA in Music are 52 credit hours. Even with not taking off any Gen Ed requirements through the major, it seems like I would only need 156 credit hours to graduate with both degrees. In 8 semesters, that is an average of 19.5 credit hours per semester. This seems doable to me, although difficult. Is there a chance I did my figuring wrong or does this sound reasonable?
 
19.5 credits every semester is a lot! Like another poster said, a lot of music classes are only 2 credits but may meet 4hrs per week. I did about 19 a semester to finish in 4 years but also had to add in summer classes to make it all work schedule wise. I would be blocked for 6.5hrs M-F for just my major music requirements (ie: lessons, rehearsals, etc). That didn't count theory, music history and the rest of the "classroom" music classes. That pretty much meant having to finagle all of my gen eds, science classes and music classes before and after that... hence the scheduling nightmare. To get around the time block I had to make friends with the registrars office so they would allow me to double schedule myself (be in a science class and an ensemble rehearsal at the same time). Due to my scholarship, music school had to be the first priority so I would only show up to my science classes on exam days and totally skipped the lectures! If you're a Harry Potter fan, I felt like Hermione Granger without the time turner thing! I was also able to take a graduate level biology class instead of the undergrad equivalent so being creative and having understanding profs was a big plus. I'm an average student academically but was able to finish with a 3.83 just because I became a pro at time management! My suggestions: get yourself on a schedule (with a bedtime) and stick to it no matter what, research when all of the courses you need to graduate are typically offered at your school and try to make an outline so as you register each semester, you are also looking 2-3 semesters down the road and get help as soon as you fall behind in anything! Don't neglect your friends, family and social life either!
 
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