Cornell (20k/year Aid) VS Brown(Full Tuition)

[deleted1095518]

What’s up everyone,

I am posting this on behalf of my friend. She was fortunate enough to get accepted to these two wonderful programs and is having a hard time choosing between them.

Cornell Pros
- Research power house
- amazing match list
-location
Cons
- cost (only got 20k/year)


Brown pros
-very chill learning environment
- Full tuition scholarship
-very good match list

Cons
- not as prestigious as Cornell
-Providence is iight
- Limited research??
- doesn’t have its own hospital ( is this a bad thing???)


She wants to choose Brown bc she was offered full tuition but she feels like she’s making a mistake turning down Cornell. She wants to know if she is making a mistake and limiting her options for residency. She wants to match into competitive speciality (radiology or plastics)

“Hellllllppppp me pleaseeee” -my friend

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[wagonwheel23]

Brown is solid (though I have not looked at their match list) and full tuition scholarship is amazing. If she would much rather be in NYC than Providence, I think Cornell is reasonable. But I have to imagine Brown will get your friend where she wants to go.

 

[OrthopedicNeurosurgeon99]

Matching into a competitive specialty will be 100% on your friend and the work she puts in. Brown will not hold her back in any way, shape or form. Tell her to take the free money and never look back!

 

[deleted1064759]

I would take Brown. That's ~160k pre-interest.

 

[deleted1095518]

I would take Brown. That's ~160k pre-interest.

Matching into a competitive specialty will be 100% on your friend and the work she puts in. Brown will not hold her back in any way, shape or form. Tell her to take the free money and never look back!

Brown is solid (though I have not looked at their match list) and full tuition scholarship is amazing. If she would much rather be in NYC than Providence, I think Cornell is reasonable. But I have to imagine Brown will get your friend where she wants to go.

Thank you for your inputs!! Would say Brown would provide her with decent research opportunities?? And what do you guys think about the school not having it’s own hospital?

 

[thetenthletter]

Can she try and get Cornell to match Brown’s aid? 150K+ difference is a lot, especially if the difference between the two schools is not that significant.

 

[deleted1095518]

Can she try and get Cornell to match Brown’s aid? 150K+ difference is a lot, especially if the difference between the two schools is not that significant.

20k was after negotiations. Do you think Cornell is worth the extra 150k?

 

[deleted1095518]

@Goro @gyngyn @LizzyM @KnightDoc @proudofmykids @Faha

would you guys care to comment and adress my friend’s concerns?? Thank you!

 

[Ole_Toe]

Don’t trip about the hospital thing. Also Brown is in the midst of a merger with the major healthcare organizations in the state so it shouldn’t be an “issue” moving forward. Cornell is definitely a higher tier school and much better location (depending on what you like). It’s pretty subjective. For me it would be hard to turn down hundreds of thousands of dollars for a prestige bump but that’s on your friend to decide.

 

[LizzyM]

$150K is a lot of money. If Brown is LCME accredited (and I am sure that it is) whatever arrangements they have for hospital rotations are good enough to get students what they need to succeed. IIRC, even with its own hospital, Cornell has to farm students out to hospitals further from campus.

Providence has a decent airport, good restaurants, and less population density that NYC.

 

[Goro]

What’s up everyone,

I am posting this on behalf of my friend. She was fortunate enough to get accepted to these two wonderful programs and is having a hard time choosing between them.

Cornell Pros
- Research power house
- amazing match list
-location
Cons
- cost (only got 20k/year)


Brown pros
-very chill learning environment
- Full tuition scholarship
-very good match list

Cons
- not as prestigious as Cornell
-Providence is iight
- Limited research??
- doesn’t have its own hospital ( is this a bad thing???)


She wants to choose Brown bc she was offered full tuition but she feels like she’s making a mistake turning down Cornell. She wants to know if she is making a mistake and limiting her options for residency. She wants to match into competitive speciality (radiology or plastics)

“Hellllllppppp me pleaseeee” -my friend

Free ride all the way

 

[thetenthletter]

20k was after negotiations. Do you think Cornell is worth the extra 150k?

I wouldn't pay an extra 150K to go to Cornell over Brown personally. Depends on your friend's financial situation and how much she prefers NYC over Providence.

 

[proudofmykids]

Total cost difenence needs a recalculation first for more accurate comparison. Isn't Cornell tuition at least $65-70k per year? Subtract the $20k aid, and you'll pay $180k-$200k more. Also, I would think cost of living in NYC even despite the affordable Cornell housing would be $5k/yr difference so another $20k added bringing it to $200k-$220k difference.

While this could be affordable, I would say if they can palette living in Providence, and a very low average matriculants age due to BS/MD program, definitely choose Brown. Your friend will make their own success. Cornell isn't top 10 residency for either specialty you mentioned so that would not be an advantage.

If they liked brown choose it.

 

[KnightDoc]

@Goro @gyngyn @LizzyM @KnightDoc @proudofmykids @Faha

would you guys care to comment and adress my friend’s concerns?? Thank you!

I have to agree with everyone else here.

I never take it upon myself to tell anyone how to spend their money. At the end of the day, physicians make enough to live comfortably AND service whatever debt they end up with, so, in the scheme of things, an extra $200K+ is manageable if that's what your friend wants, but I can't say I'd make that choice. That's a very nice down payment on a very nice house!

Brown is an Ivy League med school. No, Providence is not NYC, and Brown isn't Cornell. If name and location are that big a deal, the $200K can be borrowed and repaid, but, as everyone else either said or implied, attending a second tier Ivy League med school will not prevent your friend from getting wherever she is going. If it were me, I'd learn to love Providence! 🙂

 

[supsurfer]

Brown is affiliated with a very large teaching hospital close to the med school- Rhode Island Hospital

 

[srirachamayonnaise]

Brown. Good reputation and cheap.

 

[tryingtogettomedschoolfml]

Isn't Cornell free now?

 

[deleted1095518]

Isn't Cornell free now?

idk lol

 

[thetenthletter]

Isn't Cornell free now?

Debt-free. Basically, you’re expected to pay what you can based on parental income (so can be fairly expensive if your parents’ income is high).

 

[wondervisions]

It would be crazy to pay that much money to go to Cornell over Brown for no other reason than prestige.

 

[deleted1095518]

It would be crazy to pay that much money to go to Cornell over Brown for no other reason than prestige.

She ended choosing Brown. But besides prestige she was worried about research opportunities

 

[pierty]

She ended choosing Brown. But besides prestige she was worried about research opportunities

Excellent choice! Brown is a great school with wonderful people. Exiting medical school without debt will additionally remove a lot of the burden she would have otherwise carried throughout her studies (assuming a non-extraordinarily wealthy background). Research opportunities will also not be a problem at Brown. She can rest easy 🙂

 

[Banco]

Yeah was gonna say, Brown easily.