Cornell vs Yale vs Penn??

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I am deciding between the MSTPs at Cornell Tri-I, Yale, and Penn. All seem like amazing schools so I'm having a tough time deciding. Anyone have any advice? I'd really appreciate it! My research interests are still all over the place, so I can't really choose based on the strength in a particular field. Where are the students the happiest and where are the research opportunities the best?
 
well, reputation + research + environment. all 3 have good reputation and research. where did you feel more at home at? NYC? New Haven? Philly?

i'm sure you can find people at all 3 programs who are just happy where they are. what does your gut tell you?
 
First of all, Congratulations!!! No matter where you go, you will have amazing opportunities...especially since your interests are "all over." I think this one will come down to your personal feeling about each and their location. Location-wise (IMO) you can't beat Manhattan: opportunities are measured by square inch here, because there is soooo much going on (science, medicine, arts, fashion, business). But, if it's too crazy for you here, or if you would be uncomfortable, you might do better elsewhere. Also, the cost of living is a major factor when considering Manhattan life.

Personally, I've never been much of a fan of Philly, but others who live there (Neuronix) can probably give you better advice about that. New Haven seems like the armpit of New England and it still amazes me that Yale and all of the amazing sprout-off companies and intellectual pursuits are located there. But, again, someone going to school there will probably be more helpful.

Good luck, and if you need/want any info about Manhattan, feel free to PM me.
 
I agree, I would choose on location. If you like NYC, I would head there. If not, it's a toss up between Yale and Penn IMO for location. Feel free to ask any more specific questions about Penn here or by PM and I'll be happy to answer them for you. Note that I am pretty happy living in Philly, but it's not for everyone.
 
Neuronix said:
I agree, I would choose on location. If you like NYC, I would head there. If not, it's a toss up between Yale and Penn IMO for location. Feel free to ask any more specific questions about Penn here or by PM and I'll be happy to answer them for you. Note that I am pretty happy living in Philly, but it's not for everyone.

Neuronix - can you comment a little bit more on life in Philly? I am thinking about residencies, and Penn is a place I'm interested in, but don't know about living in Philly. I have been to New Haven, and definitely didn't like it, so if Philly is similar it's probably not what I'm looking for. 🙂 I guess I'm especially interested in safety issues. Thanks a lot!
 
beary said:
Neuronix - can you comment a little bit more on life in Philly? I am thinking about residencies, and Penn is a place I'm interested in, but don't know about living in Philly. I have been to New Haven, and definitely didn't like it, so if Philly is similar it's probably not what I'm looking for. 🙂 I guess I'm especially interested in safety issues. Thanks a lot!

I'm sure Neuronix will jump in as well, but here are my views to supplement those.
Background: I'm from Alabama, came to Philly for ugrad at Penn. New Haven is a dump, truly. Philly is a real city. The general concensus is that it's "not New York," but that it's "a lot more manageable," and I think that holds pretty true. If you're coming from New York, you won't be happy anywhere but New York. I'm not kidding. One of my best friends is in London right now, and all she can talk about is how it's not New York :laugh: . Anyway, West Philly where Penn is actually has a pretty strong community, it's just a lower-class community. There are two farmer's markets in W. Philly each week, and if you want to take the subway (right on campus) down to Reading Terminal Market, there's a huge and wonderful market there every day. There's a grocery store (Fresh Grocer) on campus that sucks, and two within walking distance that you'll recognize (Trader Joe's and Whole Foods). Alright, how did I get fixated on groceries? Anyway, First Friday of each month, all the Center City galleries open up and have free cheese and bread and such, and it's a lot of fun to just go and walk around. On regular days, student tickets to one of the world's great orchestras are $8, $6 in bulk, and there's tons of theatre and such on Broad street. I'm not really into the typical college concert scene, but there seems to be a good bit of that around as well, particularly at places like the Electric Factory. South Street has its quirky small commercial charms; South Philly still looks like Rocky, and the Italian Market is truly worth a visit. Speaking of Rocky, the PMA still has those Rocky steps to run up, and some good art inside (art purists will object, and it's probably great art, but most of it's not my taste. I like Chicago). Oh, and the Barnes collection is coming to Center City from the suburbs. Past the PMA, there is Fairmount Park, supposedly the nation's largest urban park, which truly goes on forever (you can take a 30-minute car ride north or south and still be in the park), and on weekends the paths are filled with bikers (they shut down some roads for the bikers in that area).
So, I don't think if you want a city that Philly vs. New Haven is even a comparison. Philly vs. New York, you have to decide on what kind of city you want.
--Ari
 
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