Coronavirus: Anyone worried about flying?

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DagS132 said:
HungerGames, are you just saying all of this because you think the virus won't harm that many people? Because I have to assume that you are not crazy enough to want everyone to not worry about getting infected.


Respectable. Those who are smart enough will appreciate it, dont mind the others. I have been facing some tension from people around me simply because I am asian. And it gets really awkward when someone coughs because everyone looks my way to see if it was me.
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How are you guys turning into me saying I don't care if people die? lol I've posted about on my Corona post but as a community pharmacist, I take pride in that I can make a huge difference in my community and my patients' and our community's well being my top priority as a health care professional.

What I find funny and couldn't care less about is the people's mentality that this is the end of the world and panicking left and right. Hoarding and fighting over toilet paper and water. Clearing hand sanitizers and masks off the shelves when over and over it's advised that it does not help in viral infections causing the shortage for the people that actually need them. As Dr. ZDoggMD talked about, this is more of a systemic failure than anything else but I still find it funny how the general population is just in this apocalyptic end of the world panic mode.

Some of you on here are so adamant that you're not even gonna leave your home b/c people are gross anyways and you don't wanna get sick. Not the type of attitude you need to have for someone who works in health care.

Anywho, I do care for people that are sick, whether it's b/c of coronavirus or budlightvirus. What I do not care for is this stupid amount of chaos that's being exaggerated by the media and the people.

In times of tribulation, we should keep calm and carry on. Peace. Stay safe y'all. Don't go buy toilet paper.
 
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VictorOfHungerGames said:
...Some of you on here are so adamant that you're not even gonna leave your home b/c people are gross anyways and you don't wanna get sick. Not the type of attitude you need to have for someone who works in health care...
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First off, sorry. I got a different vibe from ya, I thought you actually wanted people to just live a normal life without precaution.
But responding to the quote above, wouldn't it also be responsible to try not to get infected? Meaning staying away from the general public if possible.
 
DagS132 said:
First off, sorry. I got a different vibe from ya, I thought you actually wanted people to just live a normal life without precaution.
But responding to the quote above, wouldn't it also be responsible to try not to get infected? Meaning staying away from the general public if possible.
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Well, being that we are the only pharmacy in town, yes, I do not want to get myself infected nor do I want to spread it to others but at the same time, if we are not here because we are scared of this media driven falsified chaos, I am going to feel like a coward and a hypocrite. If I get sick or die, I'll do it while doing my job. I ain't gonna be a p#$$y about it. When I signed up to be a pharmacist, this is what I signed up for. #sparta

Imma treat this like any other respiratory infection, not as if it's the end of the world and isolate myself from the world and hoard stuff. Avoid crowded area, wash my hands frequently, etc.
 
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spacecowgirl said:
I'm not going anywhere. People are generally disgusting and my company is now prohibiting work travel and meetings. This is such a great example of the antivaxxer mentality on display. You are not exceptional. Your trip isn't exceptional, your skin is not made of viricidal copper, your immune system is not spectacular. The more we bog down the system with this, the less we have for all of the other illnesses that are not taking a haitus to let COVID-19 have the spotlight. Rationing is what should concern us all.

Some people don't have the choice to stay home. Those who can, should.
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100% agreed.

With all the idiots on my social media and even a lot of PharmDs acting like COVID-19 isn't a big deal, we're going to end up like Italy is right now. Utterly screwed if people don't stop going out and spreading their germs. You know it's bad when all your dumb friends say it's no big deal and just election year bs, and all infectious disease experts and epidemiologists say "it's very bad ****ing news".
 
MilknCheerios said:
So, is the flu chopped liver now?

I wouldn't be worried about it. While the # of airports screening for it has increased, cases remain relatively low in the US and other parts of the world. Still, it doesn't hurt to practice good hand washing hygiene, avoid touching your face, and have a bit of common sense. Wear a mask if you feel its necessary.
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make sure you get a mask that covers your eyes too. You want to cover all mucous membranes to prevent the virus from entering your body. That means covering up cuts, eyes, nose, mouth. I'm not sure how well a N95 filter prevents viruses though. They are extremely small and can probably fit through the filter although the drops they are in could be caught.
 
@Sparda29 I also (had) made plans to go to Disney in late april, but I already cancelled the flights because Disney will be closed for the rest of March and the rest of my family doesn't want to go now. If I understand United's policy, they will allow us to rebook our flight as a credit but if we don't by the end of the year I think we only get a partial refund. I'd rather just get our money back in full, but apparently this is what things have come to.
 
MilknCheerios said:
@Sparda29 I also (had) made plans to go to Disney in late april, but I already cancelled the flights because Disney will be closed for the rest of March and the rest of my family doesn't want to go now. If I understand United's policy, they will allow us to rebook our flight as a credit but if we don't by the end of the year I think we only get a partial refund. I'd rather just get our money back in full, but apparently this is what things have come to.
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Yeah, it's just me and my wife. I realized even if Disney reopens, some of the restaurants I want to go to may still be practicing social distancing precautions so that won't be fun.
 
Sparda29 said:
Yeah, it's just me and my wife. I realized even if Disney reopens, some of the restaurants I want to go to may still be practicing social distancing precautions so that won't be fun.
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Have you been to Disney lately? Social distancing would be a perk.. Trust me...
 
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What are people's thoughts about flying now? Had some relatives visit us from across the country during July 4. I wasn't thrilled about it but they ended up testing negative after the trip.
 
mentos said:
What are people's thoughts about flying now? Had some relatives visit us from across the country during July 4. I wasn't thrilled about it but they ended up testing negative after the trip.
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Nope. We're going to Florida next month and I just cancelled our plane tickets.
 
BidingMyTime said:
I agree, but there are still probably 35% of Americans who actually still believe that.

As for flying, I saw a new study a couple of days ago that said the risk of getting COVID on an airplane is very small. I'm not sure I believe it....I would still avoid flying if possible. The Odds of Catching Covid on a Flight Are Slim.
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Follow the science. It's safe to fly for short trips with masks on all of the time. Great filtration on planes.
 
BidingMyTime said:
I agree, but there are still probably 35% of Americans who actually still believe that.

As for flying, I saw a new study a couple of days ago that said the risk of getting COVID on an airplane is very small. I'm not sure I believe it....I would still avoid flying if possible. The Odds of Catching Covid on a Flight Are Slim.
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My local radio station asked a doctor what he thought about opening schools. He said an airplane has the best air filters available and the air is constantly recirculated vs a big building which did not have that. Does that mean an airplane is safer than the grocery store??
 
I just want to jump in here and say that over the past 8 weeks I have seen for myself that this “virus is real” and it has some awfully interesting characteristics.

I work with a group of prescribers and we oversee about 1200 beds.. we have seen this thing spread at a rate that we have never seen before, and we have seen it present very unique characteristics which are hallmark signs of a novel illness (Sudden plummets of O2 sats, sudden critical illness with delirium, I could keep going). Worst of all we have seen drastic numbers of deaths of patients who would otherwise survive influenza, common cold, etc.

In any case I have been convinced that there is something really wrong right now. To answer your question - if it were me.... no I would not fly. In fact I have reverted back to being very careful in many ways with my family. I am keeping all 5 of my kids out of school this fall also. Not sure what my solution to this problem is yet.

My experience tells me this - children and healthy adults are largely safe (with a lot of exceptions to this rule). The elderly and vulnerable populations really do not want to catch this thing as it can truly take a real toll. I do not want to catch this thing anytime soon that’s for sure
 
mentos said:
My local radio station asked a doctor what he thought about opening schools. He said an airplane has the best air filters available and the air is constantly recirculated vs a big building which did not have that. Does that mean an airplane is safer than the grocery store??
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Probably not. There is plenty of circulation in the grocery store. In a plane the circulation has to overcome the close crowded space. This was done before information about air filters on planes. I would only do a short flight.
 

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Fingerlakes wine trail was too crowded for my liking couple weeks back. A lot of limos and tour busses. On the plus side, there was sufficient room for outdoor food. So there is still time for a trip to NY Old Timer.
 
JustFillIt said:
My experience tells me this - children and healthy adults are largely safe (with a lot of exceptions to this rule). The elderly and vulnerable populations really do not want to catch this thing as it can truly take a real toll. I do not want to catch this thing anytime soon that’s for sure
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There are also studies showing lung damage in otherwise healthy COVID patients who were asymptomatic.

I am less worried about dying from COVID and far more so about its long term health effects.
 
M0df said:
Fingerlakes wine trail was too crowded for my liking couple weeks back. A lot of limos and tour busses. On the plus side, there was sufficient room for outdoor food. So there is still time for a trip to NY Old Timer.
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Scheduled for Columbus Day weekend.....

Which wineries do you go to?
 
We had lunch at Ventosa Vineyards. We like their outdoor sitting area. We tend to visit wineries on the north end of Seneca lake. They are not necessarily better than others but close enough to make it a day trip for us.
 
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M0df said:
We had lunch at Ventosa Vineyards. We like their outdoor sitting area. We tend to visit wineries on the north end of Seneca lake. They are not necessarily better than others but close enough to make it a day trip for us.
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I have usually done Cayuga Lake. But I have an extra day built in to get over to Senaca Lake....
 
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