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About to teach an intro class, and I'm starting to discover why so many folks are misinformed about counseling psychology.
The Myers Exploring Psychology text (2016) says the following:
–"Counseling psychologists help people to cope with challenges and crises (including academic, vocational, and marital issues)."
–"Clinical psychologists assess and treat people with mental, emotional, and behavior disorders."
Myers doesn't ever mention that counseling psychologists can also assess and treat mental, emotional, and behavior disorders, although he states that both can provide therapy.
It's 2017 and we still have scholars asserting that counseling psychologists focus on "issues of living" rather than diagnosable mental illness, although every single job/practica I've had has focused on diagnosing and treating mental illness as a counseling psychologist. It's a bit disheartening, and I have to say, insulting to see that counseling psychology is still seen by some scholars as focusing on folks who have "challenges" despite the fact that we are trained to assess, diagnose, and treat mental illness. My graduate program blended with clinical psychology and we took the same classes for diagnosis, cognitive assessment, and did similar practica, so I'm not sure why the divergent descriptions of whom we treat (both APA-accredited programs, so APA oversight for both programs to diagnose/assess). I also know several clinical psychologists who see clients with career concerns, life transition/adjustment issues, cultural issues, and see couples for therapy. My clinical colleagues and I are so similar in our professions that I often forget that we came from different types of programs. There are still some differences here and there in some course requirements and career choices: it may be that more clinical psychologists are involved in working in hospitals and/or psych hospitals more frequently than counseling folks, but I've seen both programs graduate folks who went into primary care roles and/or VAs.
Both clinical and counseling folks go on to become licensed psychologists free to diagnose & treat mental illness, and Medicare considers us all to be "clinical psychologists" for billing purposes regardless of the degree due to the training that we all get in assessing/diagnosing/treating mental illness.
However, a colleague of mine who sought an internship site with her population of speciality (many years of experience under her belt) was turned down from even applying to the site because she was from a counseling program (they only wanted clinical applicants, she contacted them, they said no, they wouldn't consider her application despite her experience). I hope practices like this aren't widespread in the APPIC system. Either way, I feel like misinformation like the above by scholars certainly doesn't help clarify the equivalency of the training between programs to the new generation of students. I'm just surprised that my field's foundation/history is still driving how people see counseling psychologists rather than looking at more relevant information such as our training, how we are licensed, and looking at the current practice of counseling psychologists today.
Whew, I needed to vent!
Anyone else confused by the way counseling vs. clinical psychologists have been compared?
The Myers Exploring Psychology text (2016) says the following:
–"Counseling psychologists help people to cope with challenges and crises (including academic, vocational, and marital issues)."
–"Clinical psychologists assess and treat people with mental, emotional, and behavior disorders."
Myers doesn't ever mention that counseling psychologists can also assess and treat mental, emotional, and behavior disorders, although he states that both can provide therapy.
It's 2017 and we still have scholars asserting that counseling psychologists focus on "issues of living" rather than diagnosable mental illness, although every single job/practica I've had has focused on diagnosing and treating mental illness as a counseling psychologist. It's a bit disheartening, and I have to say, insulting to see that counseling psychology is still seen by some scholars as focusing on folks who have "challenges" despite the fact that we are trained to assess, diagnose, and treat mental illness. My graduate program blended with clinical psychology and we took the same classes for diagnosis, cognitive assessment, and did similar practica, so I'm not sure why the divergent descriptions of whom we treat (both APA-accredited programs, so APA oversight for both programs to diagnose/assess). I also know several clinical psychologists who see clients with career concerns, life transition/adjustment issues, cultural issues, and see couples for therapy. My clinical colleagues and I are so similar in our professions that I often forget that we came from different types of programs. There are still some differences here and there in some course requirements and career choices: it may be that more clinical psychologists are involved in working in hospitals and/or psych hospitals more frequently than counseling folks, but I've seen both programs graduate folks who went into primary care roles and/or VAs.
Both clinical and counseling folks go on to become licensed psychologists free to diagnose & treat mental illness, and Medicare considers us all to be "clinical psychologists" for billing purposes regardless of the degree due to the training that we all get in assessing/diagnosing/treating mental illness.
However, a colleague of mine who sought an internship site with her population of speciality (many years of experience under her belt) was turned down from even applying to the site because she was from a counseling program (they only wanted clinical applicants, she contacted them, they said no, they wouldn't consider her application despite her experience). I hope practices like this aren't widespread in the APPIC system. Either way, I feel like misinformation like the above by scholars certainly doesn't help clarify the equivalency of the training between programs to the new generation of students. I'm just surprised that my field's foundation/history is still driving how people see counseling psychologists rather than looking at more relevant information such as our training, how we are licensed, and looking at the current practice of counseling psychologists today.
Whew, I needed to vent!
Anyone else confused by the way counseling vs. clinical psychologists have been compared?
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