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[Cozell]

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Ok I could use some advice here.

I hate math and have not taken a chem class In HS (I took 1Sem. of physicalscience). Next semester I will be taking biology and a chem class +3 other's.If I take intro Chem I will have to take chem 2 over the summer right beforeI transfer to my Uni. So I wouldn't be able to take O-Chem at my Uni. firstsemester.

1. Since I haven't taken a chem in HS should I take intro Chem or just jumpright in. I need A's (I work hard too).

2. Would taking Physics I in the fall and O-chem I in the spring be ok (I'm talkingafter I transfer BTW.)

Thanks I appreciate all feedback.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Why do you need A's?

Intro to general chemistry is a waste of time IMO. Just take gen chem 1 and call it a day.

I don't have an answer for number two, because I don't understand what you're asking/what the difference is...

 

[Cozell]

Your so quick to the Punch 👍

I would love to just take G chemistry but is it the smartest move with no chem background, are people know to somehow Ace Chem with no background.

About the Q 2 I just did not know if it was normal to take physics before O-chem (I will assume its no biggie). And with that set up I will be taking O-chem 2 over the summer while I study for the august Mcat.

And I need all A's to get into Podiatry school of course 😉 If I do this I will have a 2 year 3.9 GPA which will get averaged into my Uni. GPA (I assume) so even if I 3.0(Wont Happen) at my Uni. My app will still have about a c3.45 GPA s4.0

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Gotcha. Orgo and physics don't relate to each other whatsoever so the course progression doesn't matter. I took both courses at the same time, and I was fine.

Good luck with them A's

 

[Cozell]

I think every student who is taking gen chem I has no background in chemistry. I'm not sure why one would need an intro the chemistry class to feel prepared for chem I.

Orgo and physics have nothing to do with each other. Take them at the same time.

Well I know some kids take 1 even 2 years of chemistry in HS. I heard from a girl who went to a UNC and was one of two(out of 300) of the only students in her class who never took chemistry in HS. she said her and that student both dropped chem after failing a few test.

I stated that not to dispute what you guys are saying but just to back my reason for caution. She told me to take intro. she said if she took an intro maybe she wouldnt have bombed the course so hard and fast.


I wouldnt want to waste time after all though.

 

[heybrother]

I griped and bitched about chemistry classes when I took them, but I recognize now that all I really needed to do was open the chemistry textbook and go to a few TA sessions. Its not an open ended, whimsical class - if you aren't a chemistry major or engineer there's really only so many ways they can word a problem.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I griped and bitched about chemistry classes when I took them, but I recognize now that all I really needed to do was open the chemistry textbook and go to a few TA sessions. Its not an open ended, whimsical class - if you aren't a chemistry major or engineer there's really only so many ways they can word a problem.

Quite true! The worst thing about chemistry for me: majoring in it.

Don't ever, ever major in chemistry unless you want to go into chemistry as a career. Major mistake on my part.

 

[EK18]

Funny, you're not the first person to say that.

 

[Cozell]

Yeah I would have to agree with the majoring in chemistry part. But quick question did you guys take chemistry in HS (I know the answer to this).

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Yeah I would have to agree with the majoring in chemistry part. But quick question did you guys take chemistry in HS (I know the answer to this).

I mean, yes... But it was extremely basic (lol).

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

. Major mistake on my part.

Another good pun! C'mon guys! Throw me a bone!

 

[Cozell]

Another good pun! C'mon guys! Throw me a bone!

👍
LOL I got the pun I just didnt know if you meant it or not lol like my thread a Major issue nobody threw me a bone on that lol.

And shocker you took chem in HS, if you feel like it made your life even the slightest bit easier then you hold an advantage over non HS chem takers in a G chem class.

 

[fbtmof]

I took one general chemistry class in high school my junior year. VERY VERY BASIC INFORMATION. This was back in 2004. The next chem class I took wouldn't be until spring 2010 semester....the only thing I remembered was what O and N stood for haha...Honestly, I dont feel like it gave me an advantage over those who hadn't taken HS chem. It was hard at first, but if you work hard you'll be fine. I'm not a chemistry prodigy, so if I was able to receive a good grade, you can too! good luck!

 

[Cozell]

ok thats an excellent example. Maybe I can get an A without any background knowledge.

What was your grade in the course if you dont mind me asking. And are you good at math?

 

[fbtmof]

I wouldn't say I am "good" at math....only average.
I received an B+ the first half and a A- the second.
And on the note of grades, it seems you have a strong desire to receive an A, which is fine, but don't let it become a distraction. Being fixated on receiving a specific grade from a class will cause you a lot of unnecessary stress. Put in the work and effort, and the grade will follow 🙂 best of luck.

 

[Cozell]

I really appreciate the advice. I plan to put in alot of effort and yeah pushing for an A all the time does get stressful I've just done it for 2 semesters and I feel like if I dont get an A my GPA wont rise im trying to pull a 3.9 before I transfer.

You guys make chem sound like its not to bad if you put the work in and I really hope thats true. I hate math and I just got a B on the first Algebra test and I thought I was prepared. I feel like im falling into a hole and I dont want that to happen In an important Sciences class like chem (not to worried about bio).

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I really appreciate the advice. I plan to put in alot of effort and yeah pushing for an A all the time does get stressful I've just done it for 2 semesters and I feel like if I dont get an A my GPA wont rise im trying to pull a 3.9 before I transfer.

You guys make chem sound like its not to bad if you put the work in and I really hope thats true. I hate math and I just got a B on the first Algebra test and I thought I was prepared. I feel like im falling into a hole and I dont want that to happen In an important Sciences class like chem (not to worried about bio).

Dog, if general chemistry is tough, you're screwed for everything else.

Also, I haven't tried for "A's" in years.

 

[SuperFeisty]

Hey, that's unfair to say. Some ppl "get" chemistry. And by get, I mean actually spend some time to sit down and learn the stuff. Others do not . You don't really need any difficult math in Gen Chem; you just need to master your calculator skills.

 

[Cozell]

Dog, if general chemistry is tough, you're screwed for everything else.

Also, I haven't tried for "A's" in years.

Yeah I dont think it should be too much of a problem but you can never be to sure. And one more question ???Did you get all A's???(I know the answer to this)

yeah I mean I never tried my last two semesters and I actually got all A's I also took a semester of 8 week courses but these were mostly Gen ed so I dont want to get cocky you know. Im sure you did well in your classes(tougher ones then i've had so far) without trying to hard but I just want to do well even If I (Eat/Study/Sleep) repeat.

Agreed Feisty.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Yeah I dont think it should be too much of a problem but you can never be to sure. And one more question ???Did you get all A's???(I know the answer to this)

yeah I mean I never tried my last two semesters and I actually got all A's I also took a semester of 8 week courses but these were mostly Gen ed so I dont want to get cocky you know. Im sure you did well in your classes(tougher ones then i've had so far) without trying to hard but I just want to do well even If I (Eat/Study/Sleep) repeat.

Agreed Feisty.

My past two semester's avg GPA is like 3.72. I took genetics, analytical chem, biochem, senior seminar in Chem, and statistics for science courses. So, no, not all A's by any means, but somehow when I try less I do better in the classes....

 

[Cozell]

My past two semester's avg GPA is like 3.72. I took genetics, analytical chem, biochem, senior seminar in Chem, and statistics for science courses. So, no, not all A's by any means, but somehow when I try less I do better in the classes....

3 Sciences and a math nice work on that man I mean if im in a heavy courseload and I get a B ill be ok or even 2 B's I guess we are Pre pod afterall. LOL do better when you try less Genius.👍

??You never considered MD school??

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Med school is for suckers. I can't go into a school not knowing what I was going to be before I applied. That's why I used to be Pre-dent. I liked knowing that I was going to be a dentist once I graduated, same with pod school, I know I'm going to be a pod. I switched because of more surgery and variety of care in podiatry, and because I really like OMS in dentistry, but again, that wasn't a certainty to get a residency spot. I'm certain I'll get a residency spot in pod school.

PS, I took labs with those classes too! I think people on these forums are stressing too hard. Admissions into pod school is not difficult. You need mediocre grades and subpar MCAT. Take whatever classes you want whenever you want, you'll be fine. (watch me not get into pod school this fall... Lol)

 

[Cozell]

I really LOL'd hard on that last part, but no im sure you'll get in easy what school is your top choice im sure you have at least a 3.6 GPA and will probably do a 28+ Mcat (im Lowscorin you at that).

But yea people can really paint the picture that Pre med can be next to Impossible. I was very interested in dentistry as well. OMS and periodontics was top of my list. Since their residencies are kinda tough to land and you dont have as much range of practice as a general dentist I swayed to Pod. I still have a slight interest in Ortho/Thoracic Surgery though

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I really LOL'd hard on that last part, but no im sure you'll get in easy what school is your top choice im sure you have at least a 3.6 GPA and will probably do a 28+ Mcat (im Lowscorin you at that).

But yea people can really paint the picture that Pre med can be next to Impossible. I was very interested in dentistry as well. OMS and periodontics was top of my list. Since their residencies are kinda tough to land and you dont have as much range of practice as a general dentist I swayed to Pod. I still have a slight interest in Ortho/Thoracic Surgery though

I don't have a top choice, I want to visit the programs during interviews to see what they're like. But assuming I do decently well on the MCAT I will probably apply to DMU, AZPOD, NYCPM, and Scholl. That list will probably evolve as time goes on, but we'll see.

Back to the topic at hand though!

 

[Cozell]

I don't have a top choice, I want to visit the programs during interviews to see what they're like. But assuming I do decently well on the MCAT I will probably apply to DMU, AZPOD, NYCPM, and Scholl. That list will probably evolve as time goes on, but we'll see.

Back to the topic at hand though!

Oh yeah to conclude my initial Q's and apease my curiosity. Does anyone have any tips on how to excel in Chem/bio. Maybe something that clicked at the end of the semester that you wish you would have know. Or a way to prepare before the semester starts, ie. Learn periodic table/Sci.Note ect.

Thanks.

 

[SuperFeisty]

Oh yeah to conclude my initial Q's and apease my curiosity. Does anyone have any tips on how to excel in Chem/bio. Maybe something that clicked at the end of the semester that you wish you would have know. Or a way to prepare before the semester starts, ie. Learn periodic table/Sci.Note ect.

Thanks.

Do as many problems as you can for chemistry. Challenge problems, not memorization stuff. For biology, it's all about how to layer your info. Focus first on understanding the big picture and then start adding the details.

 

[Cozell]

Do as many problems as you can for chemistry. Challenge problems, not memorization stuff. For biology, it's all about how to layer your info. Focus first on understanding the big picture and then start adding the details.

👍
Interesting and will do. Anybody care to elaborate or drop 2 cents on the subject this is good stuff.
👍

 

[iVTECdailyy]

Oh yeah to conclude my initial Q's and apease my curiosity. Does anyone have any tips on how to excel in Chem/bio. Maybe something that clicked at the end of the semester that you wish you would have know. Or a way to prepare before the semester starts, ie. Learn periodic table/Sci.Note ect.

Thanks.

Watch "Chad's videos" for chemistry. Google it if you don't know what they are. The videos opened up chemistry to me and made it easy. went up by 3 points on the standardized tests. Cannot stress these videos enough.

 

[Cozell]

Watch "Chad's videos" for chemistry. Google it if you don't know what they are. The videos opened up chemistry to me and made it easy. went up by 3 points on the standardized tests. Cannot stress these videos enough.

Very helpfull thanks👍.I was just checking out Chad's videos for awhile after you posted this. These videos are great I feel like I could be well preped if I watched every one of them. One problem the guys wants $4 to keep watchin vids lol unless im on the wrong site.

***********.com for some reaason the it poped up with the **? IDK

But Chemistry Is very interesting I really cant wait to take the class.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Khan academy is free

 

[iVTECdailyy]

Very helpfull thanks👍.I was just checking out Chad's videos for awhile after you posted this. These videos are great I feel like I could be well preped if I watched every one of them. One problem the guys wants $4 to keep watchin vids lol unless im on the wrong site.

***********.com for some reaason the it poped up with the **? IDK

But Chemistry Is very interesting I really cant wait to take the class.

There is a monthly subscription but it is well worth it. If you look at some forums about those videos, everyone raves about them. They worked miracles when I was studying for the DAT.

 

[dyk343]

Dog, if general chemistry is tough, you're screwed for everything else.

I managed to pull A's in organic chem despite really struggling in gen chem.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

I managed to pull A's in organic chem despite really struggling in gen chem.

I mean......... did you try as hard in organic as you did in gen chem? or did you try harder?

Was gen chem your first semester of college where you were still learning to adapt to the environment?

Or was organic chemistry somehow easier than general chemistry for you? (If that's the case... you have an interesting brain).

 

[dyk343]

I mean......... did you try as hard in organic as you did in gen chem? or did you try harder?

Was gen chem your first semester of college where you were still learning to adapt to the environment?

Or was organic chemistry somehow easier than general chemistry for you? (If that's the case... you have an interesting brain).

I took Gen chem both semesters as a freshman. Orgo both semesters as a sophmore. So maybe I did adjust a little more, but I just liked Orgo more.

For Orgo I could see everything happening on paper (pushing electrons) as opposed to equations and mathematics that magically give you the correct answer. I guess its fair to say I don't have a mathematical mind which is why I probably didnt like gen chem. Physics was rough on me too, but not as bad as gen chem.

I'm sure physical chem would have killed me!

 

[Cozell]

There is a monthly subscription but it is well worth it. If you look at some forums about those videos, everyone raves about them. They worked miracles when I was studying for the DAT.

He has videos on every Prereq class and their sections I just saw this I agree It should be worth it. I assume all the students in his class(in the video) took chemistry, and the way he explains it I can still understand it its great. I may get a subscription and just watch and study all of his videos before I get to G chem, or does that sound way to GUNNER lol.

And how did you do on the DAT did you couple any other study method/program with your studies.

And to MAX what is Khan academy.

Thanks guys this is very helpfull.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

He has videos on every Prereq class and their sections I just saw this I agree It should be worth it. I assume all the students in his class(in the video) took chemistry, and the way he explains it I can still understand it its great. I may get a subscription and just watch and study all of his videos before I get to G chem, or does that sound way to GUNNER lol.

And how did you do on the DAT did you couple any other study method/program with your studies.

And to MAX what is Khan academy.

Thanks guys this is very helpfull.

Google it, it's like the same as chad's but free. It's a guy that has lectures on TONS of stuff. You could probably get a collegiate education from Khan.

 

[iVTECdailyy]

He has videos on every Prereq class and their sections I just saw this I agree It should be worth it. I assume all the students in his class(in the video) took chemistry, and the way he explains it I can still understand it its great. I may get a subscription and just watch and study all of his videos before I get to G chem, or does that sound way to GUNNER lol.

And how did you do on the DAT did you couple any other study method/program with your studies.

And to MAX what is Khan academy.

Thanks guys this is very helpfull.

Definitely don't watch his videos before taking the class. Its more of a way to study for standardized tests. Chad assumes you have taken the class before watching his videos. If you really want to, I would go to class for a week and then watch the corresponding video for that week (the videos are labeled nicely).

In my opinion, this is way to proactive for a college student. Have fun in college and get your work done. Its possible without spending 4 hours a day in the library.

For the DAT, I did different things for the different subjects. For biology, I memorized an AP Biology study guide (also finished a 400 level physiology class right before taking the test). For general chemistry and organic chemistry, I watched chads videos after taking the classes in school. Math and English are just easy for me so I did not study those. For perceptual ability, I did practice problems from Kaplan until I learned the technique. Overall, I didn't study too much for the DAT. Instead, I figured out the main questions they would ask and the type of questions they ask. It worked because I scored over a 20 on every section.

Good luck to you 👍

 

[Cozell]

In my opinion, this is way to proactive for a college student. Have fun in college and get your work done. Its possible without spending 4 hours a day in the library.


Good luck to you 👍

I would like to agree with you on this and I hope this is possible but, from what I hear being pre pod/med/dent/ and taking Bio/Chem + math and other classes, Is a death wish. Its that or "you better study all day everyday", this is honestly the type of reaction I get when I tell people the classes im taking, even from other pre meds. You seem a bit like max just take a lax approach to college and still Ace the weedout classes. Maybe you guys are just the exception I hope I am. What was your GPA if you dont mind me asking.

But yeah I will just take a look at these videos more once I start chem and Bio this fall.

And Max I looked at Khan and he's got a bun load of vids. Buuut he uses paint brush and it puts me to sleep a little bit lol. Chad has a bit more swagg and does live lecture, but it cost so its a catch 20'2.

Nice job on that DAT too. 👍

Thanks guys.

 

[flyhi]

My .02.... I dropped Chem in HS due to a teacher who was foreign and I literally could not understand her. I took Intro to Chem and Intro to Organic in college and then the real deals. A's in all of them and I am NOT a chem or math person. I would highly recommend it if you have the time to take them and want a leg up for the real deal. Just because pod school admissions isn't very competitive, doesn't mean you still shouldn't shoot for A's, imo. Plus, you never know if you may change your mind and decide to apply to a more competitive field in the future. Aiming for mediocrity is...well, mediocre. Getting in is just part of the story, you are going to want a good foundation for pod school.

I used Chad's videos (monthly subscription) for MCAT review (pre-req's were a LONG time ago) and I cannot say enough about his stuff. Khan is ok, but much more detailed. Chad goes over the information/concepts strictly to prepare you for MCAT/DAT/OAT, etc. It is worth every penny.

Good Luck!!

 

[Cozell]

My .02.... I dropped Chem in HS due to a teacher who was foreign and I literally could not understand her. I took Intro to Chem and Intro to Organic in college and then the real deals. A's in all of them and I am NOT a chem or math person. I would highly recommend it if you have the time to take them and want a leg up for the real deal. Just because pod school admissions isn't very competitive, doesn't mean you still shouldn't shoot for A's, imo. Plus, you never know if you may change your mind and decide to apply to a more competitive field in the future. Aiming for mediocrity is...well, mediocre. Getting in is just part of the story, you are going to want a good foundation for pod school.

I used Chad's videos (monthly subscription) for MCAT review (pre-req's were a LONG time ago) and I cannot say enough about his stuff. Khan is ok, but much more detailed. Chad goes over the information/concepts strictly to prepare you for MCAT/DAT/OAT, etc. It is worth every penny.

Good Luck!!

Thats a heafty .02 cents. This is good to know, Im really kind of stuck on the decision of taking intro or not with my only set back being the following. I wont be able to take O-chem first semester the next year, and I will have to take chem2 over the summer 12wks.

So tell me this Fly, do you feel like you would have not gotten A's/or struggled tremendously without the intros? Or did it just make it a bit easier, after the intro when you were in Chem did you feel like "O wow this is just review for me" for the first few chapters. IK it was a good time since you took em' if you cant remeber its cool.

And guys 👍. All input is welcome its good to get different perspectives im almost at a (breakthrough).

 

[SuperFeisty]

Thats a heafty .02 cents. This is good to know, Im really kind of stuck on the decision of taking intro or not with my only set back being the following. I wont be able to take O-chem first semester the next year, and I will have to take chem2 over the summer 12wks.

So tell me this Fly, do you feel like you would have not gotten A's/or struggled tremendously without the intros? Or did it just make it a bit easier, after the intro when you were in Chem did you feel like "O wow this is just review for me" for the first few chapters. IK it was a good time since you took em' if you cant remeber its cool.

And guys 👍. All input is welcome its good to get different perspectives im almost at a (breakthrough).

Can't you sign up for both and go to a few days of class to see which one teaches at the level you prefer? Then just drop the one you don't like before the drop date?

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

.02 cents.

lol, that's funny. One time they had a sign like this at a gas station for york peppermint patties (or whatever they are called), for .10 cents, so I grabbed ten and left a penny, the cashier didn't get it, and my buddy didn't think it was funny and he got really annoyed when I tried to explain it to the cashier, but anyways...


Freshman year schedule for me: gen chem, gen bio, calculus 1, and first year seminar (some random intro to college class everyone at my school had to take)

2nd semester: gen chem 2, gen bio 2, calc 2, and psych.

I think I ended up with a GPA around 3.7, but back then I did study a lot. I have sense had a change of heart....

I agree that I have a different philosophy than Flyhi and a lot of people on these boards, but why bother putting in all that effort for pod school? The only argument you can really make is scholarships, which isn't that much money in the long run anyways and when you are already in debt over 200k, what's another 20k??

I put in a mediocre effort, but I have a fantastic social life, and I hold leadership positions in many clubs on campus, I have two jobs, and I'm loving life. Honestly, if I thought college were only for studying and learning, I'd be a considerably sadder person. One of my factors for choosing podiatry was the easy admissions. I can have a great undergrad experience and still end in a profession that I will love. Why put yourself through all the torture of memorizing every enzyme and reaction pathway for ATP synthesis when it's not necessary (actually though, I could tell you all the intermediates and enzymes from glucose to ATP, which really did suck, especially when there was only like two questions on my biochem test about them...)?

Enjoy college, you're going to be a podiatrist and happy.

 

[Cozell]

Can't you sign up for both and go to a few days of class to see which one teaches at the level you prefer? Then just drop the one you don't like before the drop date?

Good Idea, I actually thought about doing this but the only thing is I would have to pay for the class in advance. Also If I went as far as to do this there are 2 slots for error. 1 being I could drop the intro since chem looks easy enough then BOOM it gets real. 2 being if I did this I would have to buy the books for both chems (They are diff) wouldnt get all my money back from that book.

But if people actually do this often I will most certainly consider the option.

 

[Cozell]

lol, that's funny. One time they had a sign like this at a gas station for york peppermint patties (or whatever they are called), for .10 cents, so I grabbed ten and left a penny, the cashier didn't get it, and my buddy didn't think it was funny and he got really annoyed when I tried to explain it to the cashier, but anyways...


2nd semester: gen chem 2, gen bio 2, calc 2, and psych.

I think I ended up with a GPA around 3.7, but back then I did study a lot. I have sense had a change of heart....



Enjoy college, you're going to be a podiatrist and happy.

I didnt quite get the .01 cent part? lol.

You certainly have an attitude to envy I dont think it can get better than to enjoy college and still land where you planned. But you worked hard in the beginning very hard I would image and that set the foundation for your take on college(A great one). So hopefully I can do what you did but first i've gota not fail out LOL.

I think there are a lot of doc's that are unhappy because they never came to this level of reasoning, just my ."02"

 

[iVTECdailyy]

I didnt quite get the .01 cent part? lol.

You certainly have an attitude to envy I dont think it can get better than to enjoy college and still land where you planned. But you worked hard in the beginning very hard I would image and that set the foundation for your take on college(A great one). So hopefully I can do what you did but first i've gota not fail out LOL.

I think there are a lot of doc's that are unhappy because they never came to this level of reasoning, just my ."02"

I'd say college is more of a life lesson than a learning one. I went to Penn State, there is no way I was studying all the time. No premed at PSU spend most of their time studying.

btw i ended with around a 3.5 (cause you were curious)

 

[natorx]

Quite true! The worst thing about chemistry for me: majoring in it.

Don't ever, ever major in chemistry unless you want to go into chemistry as a career. Major mistake on my part.

Not true! I'm about to grad with a Chem Degree, and yes its a tough load of classes, and its more of a struggle to keep a high gpa then our biology counter parts, but we graduate with far better analytical abilities and problem solving skills.

Most the classes are problem solving, not pure memorization. It's all to the individual though.

 

[josebiwasabi]

I have found that my classmates with chemistry degrees had a rougher first year due to a lack of background in upper div bio classes. Those that majored in bio found that a lot of the first year material was either repeat or at least somewhat familiar to them. Not so much for the chem majors. Of course, this doesn't mean that all bio majors will do well and all chem majors are destined to struggle. It just means that a greater time investment might be necessary.

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

Not true! I'm about to grad with a Chem Degree, and yes its a tough load of classes, and its more of a struggle to keep a high gpa then our biology counter parts, but we graduate with far better analytical abilities and problem solving skills.

Most the classes are problem solving, not pure memorization. It's all to the individual though.

I agree that there is a lot more memorization and regurgitation in bio than in chem, but I still don't like chemistry... Lol

 

[Cozell]

This is kind of a reply to all of you guys.

If a chem major may have a bit of trouble since he lacks upper level bio's where does that leave me as a psychology major.

And Max why do you hate chem lol.

FlyHi was a striking example, do you guys consider chem to be a class one could do well in even if they hate math or just have to work hard in math.

And I would hope that the first year upper level bio's in Pod school are not held to as high a standard as the next to years (In terms of landing residencies).

 

[MaxillofacialMN]

This is kind of a reply to all of you guys.

If a chem major may have a bit of trouble since he lacks upper level bio's where does that leave me as a psychology major.

And Max why do you hate chem lol.

FlyHi was a striking example, do you guys consider chem to be a class one could do well in even if they hate math or just have to work hard in math.

And I would hope that the first year upper level bio's in Pod school are not held to as high a standard as the next to years (In terms of landing residencies).

After learning the fundamentals of chemistry, I no longer found joy in extracting the nuances of our chemical world. It's probably because it doesn't and won't ever apply to my life, and so upon learning it, I feel that I have wasted time only to perform well on a test.

I honestly think everyone can do well in general chem, even if you hate or suck at math. Gen chem doesn't expose you to calculus or any hard math concept. Some algebra and some proportions. No trig work either, a lot of "plug and chug."

If you want upper level bio, enroll in the courses. Chemistry lends itself nicely to learn biochem. Other than genetics (and alas, human anat this fall), I won't have any bio class other than bio 1 and 2