crisis question

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

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kinda a few questions about psychology

how much does it cost to get your masters in psychology
how much does it cost to get a doctorate in psychology

and how much does a psych professor make a year?

 

[PrisonPsych]

Depends on where you go, what kind of program, whether or not you have funding, how long it takes you to finish the program... Professor salaries range *greatly,* depending on what school, kind of school, length of time there, tenure status, etc. No quick answers, sorry.

 

[Psych528]

It's going to vary depending on where you go and whether you get funding or not (scholarships, grants, etc). In terms of sticker price, the doctoral program will cost more, but again the actual amount you pay will vary. Psych prof's can vary too in what they make, depending on where they teach. Someone who works at a big name university with a lot of experience is probably going to earn more than someone at a smaller school or a community college.

 

[Psych528]

Ha! Literally the same answer 🙂

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Depends on where you go, what kind of program, whether or not you have funding, how long it takes you to finish the program... Professor salaries range *greatly,* depending on what school, kind of school, length of time there, tenure status, etc. No quick answers, sorry.

ok.. lets try clinical psych at lets say.. columbia

and how big is that range?

 

[Psych528]

to teach there or be a student?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

to teach there or be a student?

to be a student
and then a teacher later

 

[Psych528]

Hmm, maybe check under their tuition/fees on the psych department's website. As for the teaching, usually schools won't list the wages they give out to their faculty on their sites. So, I couldn't say either way

 

[erg923]

columbia doesnt offer one, but teachers college does. Dont know what funding is like there. Stipends generally range from 12k-20k, varies by program. psy d require large loans, only a few offer support. Master program tuition will vary by university of course. Few are fully funded.
Why is this titled "crisis"?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

they say 3k per year..
why does that seem so.. small..

 

[erg923]

considering columbia and teachers college have big reps in psych, you better make yourself a superstar while grad school and be able pull in a buttload of extramural funding if your gunning for a faculty position there someday.

 

[erg923]

its seems small cause it is small...lol

 

[deleted176373]

to be a student
and then a teacher later

Usually you don't teach at where you graduate from, at least not initially. That said, as others have noted, if you want to teach at Columbia or some other big name school as full time faculty, you better be a psychology superstar. The optimal situation would be to find a POI who graduated from Columbia who is now a professor at some other big name school and do your graduate training with them. Hopefully the connections they have to Columbia will set you up later to get into that department at some time in the future.

You would be amazed at the power that a phone call and a letter can have inside a relatively small community like psychology. Good luck, you might want to alter your plan slightly. Rather than pin all your dreams to going to Columbia and teaching at Columbia, perhaps set your sites on the top tier schools (this will be a challenge in itself.) You would be amazed to understand how competitive things really are in just getting in to graduate school much less becoming a professor.

I read some of your other posts, if you believe:

"medical school > pharmacy or getting a phd in psych or dental>>pa" <- You are in for a RUDE awakening.

and

"what health care field would you think this type of personality is best for..
i am over confident
i think and like to be right all the time
im both lazy and able, i got capability and i got laziness
and i like the humanities and philosophizing about endless and mundane things even if stupid."

I think you might want to consider something along the lines of physics.

Finally, it sounds like you are really unsure where you want to be:

"i did want to go into psychiatry...
but..
i found the field of working with mentally crazy people slightly..
too interesting..
regardless..
if anything i'd be like the dude on law and order svu who works with the legal system and works as a psychiatrist"

You have time to think this through, so take the time.

"eh.. i mean.. psychiatry is all about talking.. thinking.. and prescribing drugs..
there's no real prevention or actual fixing.. just treat and keep the person stable..
its depressing .."

Wow, I know some psychiatrists who would be pretty offended by that statement. For that matter, Psychologists often help keep people with personality disorders stable with no "actual fixing" or "prevention", and personally, I enjoy working with people with personality disorders.

Mark

PS - Some asked why "crisis question", I think it's because he doesn't know what he wants to do, hence the crisis.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Usually you don't teach at where you graduate from, at least not initially. That said, as others have noted, if you want to teach at Columbia or some other big name school as full time faculty, you better be a psychology superstar. The optimal situation would be to find a POI who graduated from Columbia who is now a professor at some other big name school and do your graduate training with them. Hopefully the connections they have to Columbia will set you up later to get into that department at some time in the future.

You would be amazed at the power that a phone call and a letter can have inside a relatively small community like psychology. Good luck, you might want to alter your plan slightly. Rather than pin all your dreams to going to Columbia and teaching at Columbia, perhaps set your sites on the top tier schools (this will be a challenge in itself.) You would be amazed to understand how competitive things really are in just getting in to graduate school much less becoming a professor.

I read some of your other posts, if you believe:

"medical school > pharmacy or getting a phd in psych or dental>>pa" <- You are in for a RUDE awakening.

and

"what health care field would you think this type of personality is best for..
i am over confident
i think and like to be right all the time
im both lazy and able, i got capability and i got laziness
and i like the humanities and philosophizing about endless and mundane things even if stupid."

I think you might want to consider something along the lines of physics.

Finally, it sounds like you are really unsure where you want to be:

"i did want to go into psychiatry...
but..
i found the field of working with mentally crazy people slightly..
too interesting..
regardless..
if anything i'd be like the dude on law and order svu who works with the legal system and works as a psychiatrist"

You have time to think this through, so take the time.

"eh.. i mean.. psychiatry is all about talking.. thinking.. and prescribing drugs..
there's no real prevention or actual fixing.. just treat and keep the person stable..
its depressing .."

Wow, I know some psychiatrists who would be pretty offended by that statement. For that matter, Psychologists often help keep people with personality disorders stable with no "actual fixing" or "prevention", and personally, I enjoy working with people with personality disorders.

Mark

PS - Some asked why "crisis question", I think it's because he doesn't know what he wants to do, hence the crisis.

that statement was my choices for a carrer
i still am aiming for medicine at the moment..
if i decided otherwise
psychology,pharmacy,dental are my choices for what i would be considering..
i'd never be a pa.. just not my thing

 

[dynamicmind01]

You should be really careful the way you word questions on this site. You never know who is looking or who could identify you based on an obscure detail. Some of things you have written--whether intentional or not--come across as extremely bizarre or in poor taste. You should always be professional, even in an internet forum. It seems like you need to get a lot more experience before you can make any decisions on your career goals. Often, I have noticed that often television creates roles that really don't translate into specific careers in the real world.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

You should be really careful the way you word questions on this site. You never know who is looking or who could identify you based on an obscure detail. Some of things you have written--whether intentional or not--come across as extremely bizarre or in poor taste. You should always be professional, even in an internet forum. It seems like you need to get a lot more experience before you can make any decisions on your career goals. Often, I have noticed that often television creates roles that really don't translate into specific careers in the real world.

i'm amused that people care that much about obscure details in such a fourm..

honestly im not professional.. and i have no intentions of flaunting around my amazing strengths and professional attitude when i have absolutely nothing to prove..
most things i write come off bizarre in the sense that once you take them out of the context which they were in and in the situation they were in. then yes most things come off as bizarre.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I'd encourage you to take some time and read through the forum. The stickied threads have some good information, as well as some older threads you could find through a search.

 

[cara susanna]

Haha, I had a psych professor who always said "B.D. Wong's job on Law and Order: SVU doesn't actually exist!"

 

[dynamicmind01]

Haha, I had a psych professor who always said "B.D. Wong's job on Law and Order: SVU doesn't actually exist!"

Hey Cara

Did you get my PM? 🙂

 

[erg923]

My wife loves Dr. Wong and i roll my eyes everytime he comes on SVU. Man that name kills me.......Wong...

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

My wife loves Dr. Wong and i roll my eyes everytime he comes on SVU. Man that name kills me.......Wong...

Whenever I hear Wong I think of Stanford Wong, a great statistician who's well known in the gaming industry for his number crunching.

 

[PsyDWannabe]

My wife loves Dr. Wong and i roll my eyes everytime he comes on SVU. Man that name kills me.......Wong...

I always thought it was spelled Dr. Huang, but pronounced Wong. Hmm. Anyhow, he is my family's and my favorite character on that show. We love him! I love how he just comes in, talks to the criminal, diagnoses him and leaves everyone astounded; all the while, the coolest cucumber 😎

 

[RayneeDeigh]

i'm amused that people care that much about obscure details in such a fourm..

honestly im not professional.. and i have no intentions of flaunting around my amazing strengths and professional attitude when i have absolutely nothing to prove..
most things i write come off bizarre in the sense that once you take them out of the context which they were in and in the situation they were in. then yes most things come off as bizarre.

I don't think it's that people are "amused" so much as they're concerned that words you say today might affect your career tomorrow.

Personally, I'm generally really uncomfortable in "professional" contexts and have actually had a ton of difficulty being socially acceptable enough for things like committee meetings and serious interviews. That said, it's something you have to learn if you want to fit into any kind of professional career.

By people on the forum saying that you should pay attention to whether what you're saying on the forum is professional or not, they don't mean that you need to flaunt your intelligence or supreme wisdom. They mean (I think) that you should be careful about making blunt and sweeping statements about certain fields because it could come back to "bite you" later. Trust me, I've done my fair share of backpeddling for things I've said off-the-cuff in meetings because I thought I was being funny.

Now for your original question - if you're looking to choose a career based on salary, do NOT go into psychology. You'll be disappointed, you won't have the empathy and focus required to really help people, and you'll be unhappy overall. In psychology you will make a living. You'll never be poor (well aside from grad school!) but you'll probably never be rich either, just going on statistical probabilities.