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I am on the waiting list and am hoping but also expecting to get off sometime this summer but hopefully in May. I want to ask current students about the housing situation. Father Don told me to take a look at the garden district?? which I think is by the undergrad campus but I didn't get a chance. How easy is it to find a house late spring or early summer. This question is directed to people who got in off the waitlist and I assume there are a lot of those. Also, anyone know anything about the Med Frat my advisor said it was a good place to live. I know this is a damn boring question but thanks anyway.
 
Don't worry about the housing in New Orleans. There's always a place to find - and if that doesn't work - the dorms are always an option. (Granted, a shady one at that). I've had friends who came down in a day and found more than ample housing. I'd avoid on-line listings unless you really know the area well (the ghetto has a way of sneaking up on people) and come down when you get accepted.
 
I wouldn't worry about finding a place to stay when you get accepted. I moved down here in January and will be starting in the fall, so I'm still getting to know the city. I do live in the Garden District, though, and there are plenty of nice places up for rent around me.

If you do end up at Tulane and need some help feel free to PM me.
 
housing is generally not a problem, even in the summertime. my suggestion to you is to get down here in june, and just start looking around since most leases end in june. www.bestofneworleans.com has listings for rent in the "classifieds" section...i myself live near the uptown campus (it's about a 10-minute drive to school, and convenient since it's near nice amenities, like audubon park, the gym, and grocery stores). don't go solely by what you read in the classifieds without looking at the property yourself, though..this city is notorious for having slummy areas intermingled with the nicer areas. also, sometime in may, tulane will put up a webpage listing people who want roommates, people looking to turn over their leases to incoming students, and the like. be on the lookout. 🙂 pm me if you have more questions
 
thanks, the only problem is that I am pretty sure a lot of people get off the waitlist in july and maybe august.
 
Originally posted by MErc44
thanks, the only problem is that I am pretty sure a lot of
people get off the waitlist in july and maybe august.

this is true...BUT...remember two things
1) if you're aggressive enough (and by aggressive, i mean let them know you're interested, not start stalking pisano and/or beckman or whatever the new dean's name is), they'll let you in somewhere in may-june. just keep on them and let them know you're interested.
2) even the people who find out in july/august get apartments just fine. sure, some end up in deming, but if you keep your eyes open, check the website to see who needs a roommate, and keep up with listings (heck, if you have questions about an area, ask someone from new orleans. we'll be glad to help you out), you should be just fine.
 
I have a question about the waitlist itself. I interviewed at the beginning of October. I go to a quarter system school and have since sent in my fall quarter grades a 3.8. This winter quarter i don't think I will do as well, maybe a 3.5, maybe a 3.4. Even if I get low grades should I still send them? I am also planning on sending a letter of intent after May 15th. Do these have any value? I could ask my health professions advisor these questions but I thought it would be better to ask current students. Thanks.
 
Don't send the grades. Definitely send the LOI, and don't wait until after May 15 either. Send it ASAP.
 
So a 3.5 is considered bad. Damn. DrBravesgirl, do you mean I should call in addition to sending the LOI?
 
yup. i know a few of my current classmates who sent a LOI, then called the admissions office to check on their "status" and received their letters of acceptance within days.
 
can i hijack the thread for a second to ask if anyone knows of "family friendly" housing areas for Tulane? by that i mean safe, decent public schools (or cheap private ones), and under a 30 min commute? i've heard maybe metairie?

thanks!
 
safe, decent public schools..in louisiana...hmm. good luck with that. the only thing i can think of would be to think about the suburbs (harahan, metairie, river ridge)...you'd be facing a 15-30 minutes commute (i have no idea how traffic is out there in the mornings, but my normally-10 minute drive can get up to 20 from uptown in the a.m.). good luck searching it out 🙂
 
Does it look bad to send an LOI and then go on more interviews. I wasn't planning on getting anymore then all of a sudden. I think I am being neurotic but I have hearc that schools communicate with eachother after they have received a letter of intent. My interview is at the end of April and I was planning on sending the letter in the next few weeks. Or does the letter of intent just say, no matter what if I am accepted here I will withdraw from every other school or just every school that I have heard from?
 
who should I address an LOI to? Dr. Pisano or the admissions office as a whole? Also one more question, how much is tuition? I saw something on the website that said 12,000 that needs to be paid twice a year. I don't see how this could be right.
 
MErc44 said:
Also one more question, how much is tuition? I saw something on the website that said 12,000 that needs to be paid twice a year. I don't see how this could be right.
three times a year
 
damn, that's pretty expensive. How much are living expenses normally?
 
it's pretty much accepted that it costs 50k/year to attend tulane, including tuition and living expenses. tuition works out to be about 38k (it's not just 12k 3 times a year; it's 12,xxx; something i can't remember), and living expenses work out to about 1000/mo. at least, that's the way it's gone for me so far.
 
If it costs 50K/year to attend, but the fed loans max at $38.5, how do you make up the difference?

Also, do you know if Tulane's financial aid dept has calculated a budget & is it available online?

Thanks!
 
velouria said:
can i hijack the thread for a second to ask if anyone knows of "family friendly" housing areas for Tulane? by that i mean safe, decent public schools (or cheap private ones), and under a 30 min commute? i've heard maybe metairie?

thanks!

I agree. I'm a Tulane med student, and in New Orleans there is no safe, decent public schools. Even in the suburbs such as Metarie, private schools are the way to go. But, a 30 minute commute will get you quite far, so your search radius is wide. I'm doing rotations here in California now, and 30 minutes gets you about, 5-10 miles (even at 6 in the morning)!!
 
how much time do you guys get to spend in charity hospital? Is it a large part of third and fourth years or is most of the work done at Tulane med center?
 
You get a varied experience. You have the option of doing medicine at University (which is part of Charity and admits from the Charity ER -- all Charity medicine patients are housed in the UH facility across the street), psych at Charity, neuro at either UH or Charity, Ob/Gyn at UH (no deliveries are done at Charity), peds at UH (no kids are seen at Charity), and surgery at either (the Charity "general surgery rotation" is actually trauma surgery, whereas you actually do general surgery at UH). Surgical subspecialties are all over the place and there can be clinics and surgeries at both buildings. In addition, you can do medicine at the VA (great experience, second only to UH), and Ochsner Hospital (a private hospital across town); inpatient psych at DePaul, the Tulane-run inpatient facility in Uptown New Orleans; outpatient psych either at the VA, at DePaul, or at Ochsner; neuro at Tulane, the VA, or Ochsner; Ob at Tulane or in Pineville at Huey P. Long Hospital, another in the Charity system (and they're working on getting the new Lakeside Hospital location in Metairie up and running); Gyn Onc includes some time at both UH and Tulane; inpatient peds at Tulane or Ochsner; outpatient peds at Tulane, Charity or Ochsner; and surgery at Tulane, Ochsner, ?Touro? (may or may not be available in the future, but it's a private hospital uptown with strong Tulane connections in the surgery department -- you may have interviewed with Dr. Levy in the admissions dept -- he started the surgery dept at Touro), and also in Pineville. On family, you are welcome to go anywhere in the state or some locations in Mississippi or military locations. You can also spend time at the Tulane Family Practice clinic in uptown New Orleans.

Starting this year, the class of 2006 and beyond will be able to schedule 3rd and 4th year as one long year. In doing this, you will have a better opportunity to decide when you do certain rotations, where, and with which faculty. Therefore, if you want to spend all your time at Charity, you are free to schedule accordingly. And, Tulane does not have an EM dept, but we work very closely with LSU and have our students and residents do ER months in the Charity ER, splitting time between the MER, Fast Track and Accident Room.

Wow. That was a mouthful. Any further questions? Feel free to PM me or ask on the board and I'll try to answer them.
 
thanks just wanted to make sure I was not messing up the facts in my LOI.
 
Not to hijack the thread, but is living on the northshore (Mandeville/Covington) a viable option for medical school? I know someone doing a Ph.D. downtown who lives there. Thanks!
 
eek...i wouldn't live that far away. traffic on the causeway (the bridge leading from that area to new orleans) can be a bitch. i'm not sure how your friend manages that.
 
I called the admissions office to check and see if they received my LOI and they had, the lady said she would tell the dean that I called. However, she also dropped the hint that I should write Dr Pisano an email. What do you think about this? I feel sort of uncomfortable doing this but I will if it will help me get in. I was pretty much going to say the same thing as I did in the LOI and mention an award I just received.
 
I have a different question for Tulane M3 and M4 students.

How competent were you at the physical examination, ordering tests, and generating a differential when you started third year? I'm wondering how good are you expected to be during your first weeks of M3? Have you missed many things when you present your H&Ps? How much practice did you get seeing patients in second year? etc.
 
Hey person2004,

I will attempt to answer your question, but it's kind of hard to remember early July, because I have made such strides in just the last 11 months.
I started my 3rd year on the internal medicine rotation at University Hospital (where the medicine service is located at Charity) on July 1. As you can imagine, things are crazy in July because everyone is new. The interns had just graduated from med school and the resident had never been a resident before. It was quite an experience. I think, after having Dr. Wiese as a teacher during second year in the longitudinal Clinical Diagnosis class, I was fairly competent in my physical exam skills and, even better, I had a good appreciation for why certain things were necessary (meaning, I wasn't just going through the motions). Remember, though, that a big part of 3rd year is developing those skills. So, to say I was "fairly competent" may not sound impressive to you, but believe me, people are impressed by even that during those early days, and you will gain so much during 3rd year that you shouldn't walk in thinking you're anything more that pretty good anyway.
As far as ordering labs, the interns are just getting their first real shot at doing this stuff too, so you're not alone in figuring out what to order and what's important. At this point in my education, I would say that I am very good at ordering labs, but in July I didn't have the greatest grasp beyond the basic stuff. Really, in July you're kind of walking around in a haze, just trying not to piss off the nurses and trying to stay out of the way of people doing seemingly important things. As you go on, you figure out your place and things get much more clear.
You also asked about developing a differential. Dr. Wiese does a great job getting you thinking in those terms early in med school. I walked into 3rd year feeling like this was a strength for me. One thing that has changed for me over the year, though, is that now I think more about horses and less about zebras. Either way, thinking through clinical problems is one of the best skills for new 3rd year to have, especially early in the year. In July, the new docs are doing more of the "doing" and the early 3rd years are doing a lot of the "thinking."
To move on to you question about 2nd year, I feel like we get a lot of patient exposure early in med school. Starting first year, we see patients and write up H&Ps so that we get the experience of listening and thinking through problems. We are given the opportunity to hang out in Charity's ER anytime we want so that we can work through a patient's case from the second he walks in the door. We also have a standardized patient program that is one of the oldest in the country and these guys are really good. We start out learning all our physical exam techniques on them, and then we go into the hospital with our preceptors and work with real patients. I was lucky enough to get matched with the chair of the medicine department, and I learned so much about presenting patients and getting pimped. It was amazing.
So, to wrap this up, I felt like I walked into 3rd year knowing what I needed to know to do well, and I'm walking out having learned and gained so much from the many patients and attendings I have worked with at Charity, Tulane, the VA, and Ochsner.

PM me if you have any other questions!
 
Although I'm always very skeptical of people who have that much charisma, in addition to being an outstanding teacher, from the little I know he seems also to be good person. Which, to me, was equally important in choosing schools, although at that time I only knew the people I had interviewed with, and he wasn't one of them. But I'd agree that he's definitely an asset to this school.
 
It's not just charisma. The guy is brilliant, and he conveys it well. There are people in this world who are great teachers, and Wiese is one of them. I'm not sure what kind of time you've had with him, but wait until 3rd year, when you're on medicine at UH and you go to morning report with him, or his weekly student conferences. He has a talent for problem-solving and an understanding for medicine that is amazing. Before 3rd year, I knew this guy was something special, but after seeing how much he really cares about Charity Hospital and its patients, and how much he enjoys imparting not only his knowledge but his methods on to the next generation of physicians, I'm buying whatever he's selling. If anyone is familiar with Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment, Wiese was trained by the editor Lawrence Tierney (or LT as he's known around Tulane) at UCSF, and he's a huge asset to Tulane med school and the IM residency program. So, yeah, he had me at hello.
 
Geez Samoa-- you're all over the place. Don't have enough time to answer a question? You just wrote a book on this Wiese guy.

I hear the guy likes the ladies.
 
the ladies seem to like him as well...
 
I'm not terribly sure why I'm posting this, but reading this column just makes we want to get into Tulane really, really bad. I don't know how much more in terms of interest I can express to them. I want it so, so bad, I want off that waitlist, I want to start learning about the place. Man, guys, shoot Pisano some Lukie love for me, would ya? I can't wait (fingers crossed) to join y'all down there. Cheers!
 
I think the two or three lectures Wiese gave us this year were worth 38 grand themselves. The dude is just something else. Which is probably why the ladies want him and the guys want to be him.

Can't wait for more next year.
 
imprint said:
Geez Samoa-- you're all over the place. Don't have enough time to answer a question? You just wrote a book on this Wiese guy.

Nah, just the Cliff Notes version of peptidoglycan's post. I'm only here on study breaks, but I take them often. If you want to know what I think about Tulane, all you have to do is do a search. This, however, was a new topic.

I hear the guy likes the ladies.

And I hear the ladies like him back. Sounds like a win-win situation to me. :laugh:
 
Remember that one lecture when he told us how to use our sthethescope. That was hilarious... when everyone was making funny breath sounds. Stuff we could have learned in less than 10 minutes.
 
lukeday99 said:
I'm not terribly sure why I'm posting this, but reading this column just makes we want to get into Tulane really, really bad. I don't know how much more in terms of interest I can express to them. I want it so, so bad, I want off that waitlist, I want to start learning about the place. Man, guys, shoot Pisano some Lukie love for me, would ya? I can't wait (fingers crossed) to join y'all down there. Cheers!



join the club
 
Samoa said:
Nah, just the Cliff Notes version of peptidoglycan's post. I'm only here on study breaks, but I take them often. If you want to know what I think about Tulane, all you have to do is do a search. This, however, was a new topic.

Still no answer to my question.... I think I've figured out why you won't answer it-- same reason the UT probably wouldn't. Ahh, the hypocrisy.

And I hear the ladies like him back. Sounds like a win-win situation to me. :laugh:

So the key to getting chicks in med school is to teach. Guess I'll just have to go into academic medicine.
 
imprint said:
So the key to getting chicks in med school is to teach. Guess I'll just have to go into academic medicine.

NOW you're catching on... 😉

(By the way, I didn't write that middle paragraph. And hypocrisy isn't quite what I'd call it...more like professional courtesy. I don't talk trash about them, their students don't talk trash about Tulane. I can't stop anyone who does so, but I don't have to respond in kind.)
 
I realise that Weise is great. Would anyone else like to describe how you did with your H&P at the beginning of third year? When asked questions about your H&P did you have all the information, or had you left a couple of things out? etc.
 
person2004 said:
I realise that Weise is great. Would anyone else like to describe how you did with your H&P at the beginning of third year? When asked questions about your H&P did you have all the information, or had you left a couple of things out? etc.

Sorry we got sidetracked. I don't think there are too many 3rd years who actively post on this board. But I could be wrong.

However, I'm pretty sure that nearly everyone, everywhere, forgets to ask something important on the H&P their first few months on the wards. I mean, really, if you know everything and can do everything correctly from day one, then they should just hand you your degree right then. Wherever you go, you will make mistakes. Not because you weren't taught well, but because you haven't practiced enough. You'd get a good clinical education here regardless of who was teaching those skills. I think what we do get here is that little extra that makes the difference between a competent clinician, and a truly outstanding one. However, it's still up to you to learn what's being taught.
 
What are everyone's thoughts on Deming? Did anyone live there ever and if not does anyone have any incite on living there? Thanks a lot!
 
I agree with what Samoa said about H&Ps. You get better by doing lots, and believe me, you'll get the chance to do as many as you'd like, and then some more. No one walks in fully competent. With the help of the Maxwell cards and Wiese's medicine handbook, you have an easy to use template so you don't forget what questions you need to ask to get all the information, but when it comes to diagnosis and treatment, no 3rd year is going to always think of everything. I found that at the beginning of 3rd year, I was able to think of most etiologies of the symptoms my patients had but I focused too much on the zebras (remember, common things happen commonly), and I didn't have the best idea of how to implement a plan. It's easy to skip steps until you see how the whole thing fits together. I found that each rotation builds on the last, and that the family medicine rotation is a nice, laid back way to solidify all the info you have gathered about diagnosis and management.

What exactly is it that you are concerned about when it comes to H&Ps early in 3rd year?
 
Samoa said:
NOW you're catching on... 😉

(By the way, I didn't write that middle paragraph. And hypocrisy isn't quite what I'd call it...more like professional courtesy. I don't talk trash about them, their students don't talk trash about Tulane. I can't stop anyone who does so, but I don't have to respond in kind.)


Sorry Samoa-- my comment got caught up in yours. The hypocrisy I'm talking about had to do with your refusal to answer my question about what other schools you'd gotten into instead of Tulane and why you chose Tulane vs. those schools. Obviously, since you've refused to answer the question repeatedly, there weren't any other schools you got into. It's hypocritic of you and misleading to people who are trying to decide on where to go to post something about why you "picked" Tulane over other schools when it looks like THEY picked you. Whatever, I'm still happy about my choice, but you should probably lay off the advice columns forums for a while, unless you're going to be honest about where you're coming from.

As for Wiese, I feel lucky that he's at Tulane.
 
imprint said:
The hypocrisy I'm talking about had to do with your refusal to answer my question about what other schools you'd gotten into instead of Tulane and why you chose Tulane vs. those schools. Obviously, since you've refused to answer the question repeatedly, there weren't any other schools you got into. It's hypocritic of you and misleading to people who are trying to decide on where to go to post something about why you "picked" Tulane over other schools when it looks like THEY picked you. Whatever, I'm still happy about my choice, but you should probably lay off the advice columns forums for a while, unless you're going to be honest about where you're coming from.

Wow, that was rude and mean-spirited of you. The fact is, I never completed my TMDSAS application, and I also didn't apply to most of the schools people are trying to compare, but that doesn't mean I have no right to say good things about my own school. And I'm sure most of the other people posting good things about Tulane vs. other schools were not faced with that particular choice either. Likewise, those posting good things about their own school vs. Tulane may not have gotten in here, or even applied. Yet, you're only critical of me. Why is that?
 
It's pretty obvious, isn't it? I hate hypocrites and liars. I asked you a question repeatedly, and you refused to answer-- repeatedly. The UT poster was in the same boat, but at least they didn't try to keep up the pretense like you did. If you aren't going to be honest, keep your opinoins to yourself. Or at least say something like, hey, I didn't get in anywhere else, but I love the school I am in and here's why. That way people aren't misled. People depend on this website for honest information, but now I know you really can't trust the posters.
 
Imprint, I think you are being way to harsh on Samoa. She was nice enough to offer her perspective. Although I can understand why you might would be interested in how many acceptances one had, I don't think that it is necessarily entirely relevant. If one was accepted to 10 schools or just 1 or 2, the intial reasons for choosing a school are not going to be the same reasons one enjoys being a student at said school.
 
imprint said:
It's pretty obvious, isn't it? I hate hypocrites and liars. I asked you a question repeatedly, and you refused to answer-- repeatedly. The UT poster was in the same boat, but at least they didn't try to keep up the pretense like you did. If you aren't going to be honest, keep your opinoins to yourself. Or at least say something like, hey, I didn't get in anywhere else, but I love the school I am in and here's why. That way people aren't misled. People depend on this website for honest information, but now I know you really can't trust the posters.

This website is about people's opinions, and ONLY about people's opinions. I am not required to answer every question that I am asked. And I assure you that I have not intentionally tried to deceive you. I've only given you the information I can accurately give. I did wonder why the poster from UT was down on Tulane, but it's really none of my business whether or not that person was accepted here. And it's none of your business either, if they chose not to share it. You simply make an ass of yourself by childishly insisting that your question not be ignored. That poster's opinion of UTHSCSA is valid, as mine would not be, even if I HAD applied, HAD been accepted and HAD chosen Tulane instead. If you feel that it's hypocritical of me not to share my application experiences with you, you're entitled to your opinion. And you're entitled to post your opinion of me wherever you like on this site. But the fact that you feel misled is not evidence that I intended to mislead you, and in fact I did not intend to do so.
 
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