D... Got my first C at the end of P1 year!

[Twinsmom]

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Does that mean no way to get residency?

 

[Sparda29]

Does that mean no way to get residency?

Can you still make a 3.0?

 

[Twinsmom]

I think I can. This is my first C so far.

 

[GoldfishPharmD]

I know plenty of people who had a few C's and got a residency.

 

[spacecowgirl]

Relax, you're fine.

 

[glory4england]

I know plenty of people who had a few C's and got a residency.

This is what I'm banking on =D It would be nice if programs give us a cut off for GPA so I don't apply to ones that I know won't look past my GPA

 

[habeansha]

congrats

 

[Twinsmom]

Thanks for the nice curve! My C is gone. 🙂

 

[gsRx]

Thanks for the nice curve! My C is gone. 🙂

Nice! I've never had a test/course that was curved in Pharmacy school 🙁 We even had one exam where the class average was barely passing (60 or a 62) and they didn't curve, girls were crying left and right 😀

 

[Rx MPLS]

Nice! I've never had a test/course that was curved in Pharmacy school 🙁 We even had one exam where the class average was barely passing (60 or a 62) and they didn't curve, girls were crying left and right 😀

That is probably one of the biggest things I never expected about pharmacy school...the drama!

 

[dxb8307]

Nice! I've never had a test/course that was curved in Pharmacy school 🙁 We even had one exam where the class average was barely passing (60 or a 62) and they didn't curve, girls were crying left and right 😀

60 is passing?!

 

[rxlea]

60 is passing?!

That's what I was thinking! C is passing in my neck of the woods

 

[Sparda29]

60 is passing?!

I'm pretty sure at most colleges a D is considered passing. Usually the structure is like:

90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
60-69 - D
<60 - F

 

[Busta919]

I'm pretty sure at most colleges a D is considered passing. Usually the structure is like:

90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
60-69 - D
<60 - F

Our cut-off is
90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
<69 - F

 

[glory4england]

Our cut-off is
90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
<69 - F

Same here. Even in undergrad anything less than a 70 is considered failing, a "D" 60-69.99 gives 1 grade point instead of 0 but is still failing

 

[rxlea]

Our cut-off is
90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
<69 - F

this.

 

[Ackj]

Our cut-off is
90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
<69 - F

Yep, no such thing as a D. Although for APPE, we need to get an 80% to pass.

 

[dxb8307]

I'm pretty sure at most colleges a D is considered passing. Usually the structure is like:

90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
60-69 - D
<60 - F

Hmm. At my school 70 is passing. However, to get your diploma, you have to have at least 75 average.

 

[pharm B]

This is what I'm banking on =D It would be nice if programs give us a cut off for GPA so I don't apply to ones that I know won't look past my GPA

I agree with this. I'd rather not waste the time and money to approach a site if they won't give me serious consideration based on grades alone.

 

[joetrisman]

This is what I'm banking on =D It would be nice if programs give us a cut off for GPA so I don't apply to ones that I know won't look past my GPA

I agree with this. I'd rather not waste the time and money to approach a site if they won't give me serious consideration based on grades alone.

Again, I think it'd be nice if we had pharmacy style USMLE step tests throughout school rather than the Naplex at the end AND had mandatory residencies (maybe through CMS reimbursements or something). Like with physicians, the number of residencies would control the supply of pharmacists in a legal fashion. Additionally, the scores on your step would largely determine what residencies you'd be competitive for (whereas naplex is too late in the game to count). Many think that community has no place for residencies but as I've stated before, many of the lick and stickers only wish to dispense and push off clinical services to the new grads. A split into separate specialties could theoretically occur in community: product oriented and clinical services oriented. Just a personal musing.

 

[gsRx]

Hmm. At my school 70 is passing. However, to get your diploma, you have to have at least 75 average.

60 is passing for any one particular test / course at my school, same as in undergrad, but to stay within the program you would need around the same GPA as you have stated.

 

[Benelli]

Our first Principles of Drug Action exam had a ridiculous average. It was an "82" but it was actually more along the lines of students with chem degrees slaughtered the exam, and the rest got owned. Nice thing is though, that professor didn't teach any more material after that exam so there was some recovery.

Getting a C isn't the end of the world. C's earn degrees, but by no means should you only shoot for them.

 

[BenJammin]

Are you kidding me? Who cares. Fraternity brother got two D's, many C's and still made it to Rho Chi with a 3.4.

Residencies are overrated anyway.

 

[Albo]

Im of the motto..study for an A and be happy with whatever you get as long as you pass. Some of the smartest people in my class are students who can not connect two words together and are incredibly awkward interacting with other students. And yea i got my firs C and C+ in my first year of pharmacy school after 5 years of undergraduate classes but im not sweating it.

 

[metallideth]

Again, I think it'd be nice if we had pharmacy style USMLE step tests throughout school rather than the Naplex at the end AND had mandatory residencies (maybe through CMS reimbursements or something). Like with physicians, the number of residencies would control the supply of pharmacists in a legal fashion. Additionally, the scores on your step would largely determine what residencies you'd be competitive for (whereas naplex is too late in the game to count). Many think that community has no place for residencies but as I've stated before, many of the lick and stickers only wish to dispense and push off clinical services to the new grads. A split into separate specialties could theoretically occur in community: product oriented and clinical services oriented. Just a personal musing.

interesting you say this because my school is doing something like this. the current p4's (class of 2013) had to take a cumulative exam of everything they had learned throughout pharmacy school during their p3 year. the class of 2014 also has to take such an exam. my year the class of 2015 may have to take a cumulative exam during the p2 year and definitely a cumulative exam p3 year. maybe other schools will start adopting this route. anyone else go to a pharm school that has adopted a cumulative exam similar to what i'm talking about?

 

[Ackj]

interesting you say this because my school is doing something like this. the current p4's (class of 2013) had to take a cumulative exam of everything they had learned throughout pharmacy school during their p3 year. the class of 2014 also has to take such an exam. my year the class of 2015 may have to take a cumulative exam during the p2 year and definitely a cumulative exam p3 year. maybe other schools will start adopting this route. anyone else go to a pharm school that has adopted a cumulative exam similar to what i'm talking about?

Is it the PCOA exam? Our P3s take it too. Was super long and painful, some of the questions were stupidly easy, some were insanely complex, some of them are things I swear I've never heard of before. It's more for the faculty to assess how we're doing than for individual scores, especially since it takes months to find out the results. Still kind of a cool "practice" cumulative exam to refresh your memory on some topics before you take boards for real.

 

[pharm B]

We have exams at the beginning of P2, P3, and P4 year, as well as one at the end of P4, called "benchmarks." The faculty use it to assess both us and the program, but the bottom 15% have to do some kind of formal remediation.

But these exams are school-proprietary, and not close to the step exams.

 

[metallideth]

Is it the PCOA exam? Our P3s take it too. Was super long and painful, some of the questions were stupidly easy, some were insanely complex, some of them are things I swear I've never heard of before. It's more for the faculty to assess how we're doing than for individual scores, especially since it takes months to find out the results. Still kind of a cool "practice" cumulative exam to refresh your memory on some topics before you take boards for real.

what does PCOA stand for? based on everything else you said it sounds similar to the exam my school just started administering.

 

[Busta919]

what does PCOA stand for? based on everything else you said it sounds similar to the exam my school just started administering.

Pharmacy Curriculum Outcomes Assessment.

200 questions and a couple of hours.

Take it in January, get the results in May.

 

[ACE Rx]

We have exams at the beginning of P2, P3, and P4 year, as well as one at the end of P4, called "benchmarks." The faculty use it to assess both us and the program, but the bottom 15% have to do some kind of formal remediation.

But these exams are school-proprietary, and not close to the step exams.

We have those as well. If you don't score above a certain threshold after P3 year, you are barred from moving forward to P4 rotations until you do. Not sure what the penalty is if you don't pass P1 and P2 years though. Hopefully, I'll never find out.

 

[metallideth]

Pharmacy Curriculum Outcomes Assessment.

200 questions and a couple of hours.

Take it in January, get the results in May.

thanks. in that case then yes that's the name of the exam.

 

[Ackj]

Pharmacy Curriculum Outcomes Assessment.

200 questions and a couple of hours.

Take it in January, get the results in May.

Just got my results today.

99th percentile overall 😱😱😱😱

Maybe I should consider a residency...