DAT 8.30, but did DESTROYER work?

[Bradsher1984]

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finished with the dat!

 

[believe2006]

fantastic job. good for you =) now you can sooo rellax.

hey do you mind tellingme how you prepared for both QR and RC?
for QR reasoning im doingthe destroyer.. i think im ok with it.. but i know i have scored low in the math section. those damn combination,permutation stuff... and word problems in general...

and for reading ...wow good job.. i just cant read that fast =(

 

[Dr. juju]

fantastic job. good for you =) now you can sooo rellax.

hey do you mind tellingme how you prepared for both QR and RC?
for QR reasoning im doingthe destroyer.. i think im ok with it.. but i know i have scored low in the math section. those damn combination,permutation stuff... and word problems in general...

and for reading ...wow good job.. i just cant read that fast =(

Yea me too. I need help in RCT.
GREAT JOB!!! your scores are solid

 

[GRAD]

what tricks do you know for angles??

 

[RockstarDMD]

Congrats!

 

[RING12]

you did really well. i wanted to know how did you so well on pat? i have to retake the test just b/c of pat and RC. could you help me for these two sections? i have hard time with keyholes more than any thing els.

 

[Indie]

OK, so I'll jump on the bandwagon and post my scores from yesterday:

BIO 22
GCHEM 23
OCHEM 23
QRT 23
RC 23
TS 22 (97.1%)
AA 23 (98.6%)
PAT 24 (99.9%)

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Seriously sweet scores man... Congrats... And I will second the notion on the destroyer.. It looks like the new standard for this test just jumped from a 17 national average to a 22+...

 

[Law0830]

Excellent scoresss congradsss, I used the Destroyer too!

 

[DAS]

Nice score, That is like the ideal score. Do you happen to know how to get the materials you used, especially "Distroyer stuff"?

 

[fancymylotus]

Nice score, That is like the ideal score. Do you happen to know how to get the materials you used, especially "Distroyer stuff"?

www.orgoman.com for dat destroyer👍

 

[Bradsher1984]

For those that were asking about the reading comp section, I dont think theres theres a real secret. Both my high school and college were big on reading and writing lots, so comprehending the passage and inferring the tone or what sentence should come next just came easy to me.
But, here is my strategy: I do "read" the passage, well sort of. I read the first and last sentence of each paragraph, as well as write down the paragraph topic and a few keywords (usually 3 or 4 per). And I make sure I read the passage in under 8 mins. Then I aim to answer the questions in 10 mins, for each passage. This leaves about 6 mins at the end to double check or allows you a little extra attention on that one hard passage. The key is practicing your strategy over and over, even if it might not work perfectly the first time. Learning to read fast takes work.

RING, GRAD- As for the PAT section, I honestly thought it was no harder then Topscore.

 

[Manyak222]

what the heck?? You hold up the whole piece of paper to the screen or you rip it out and do it?

 

[Bradsher1984]

Haha, I don't think its foolproof, but it seemed to work for me.

 

[joonkimdds]

Haha, yeah I hold up the whole paper to the screen, aligning the edge of the paper with one of the angle's legs and try to draw the extension of the other leg onto the paper. Then move the paper over to the next angle and see if you can tell which one is bigger. I don't think its foolproof, but it seemed to work for me.

that's exactly what i was planning to do but then Barron says that's cheating and not allowed. I also posted about it and 3 people say "Don't cheat , Joon!!!" so i believe what u did was cheating however it's allowed....so i will do the same.

u said u asked them before u actually did(cheating 🙂) but how did u ask?
i bet u didn't say "can i cheat?" maybe u have a way with words and i wonder exactly how u asked them 🙂


by the way cough cough ehem...joon? what did i do 😛

 

[Bradsher1984]

what?

 

[kkumalap]

"so i believe what u did was cheating however it's allowed....so i will do the same.

u said u asked them before u actually did(cheating ) but how did u ask?"


woah there buddy, dont call me a cheater, you dont know me. I asked the proctors if they had any rules and complied to what they told me.

If you wanna talk about cheating, lets talk about how you cant think for yourself to save your life. You have 782 posts in one summer mostly consisting of asking people how to do things, what the answer is, where in campbell's or schaum's something is, etc.... I'm all for helping others out when they need, but you take it too far. What are you gonna do when you dont know how to proceed with a patient's treatment in your chair? Go online and ask someone on a message board?

^ LOL....good one there bud. Nice scores too. 👍

 

[joonkimdds]

woah there buddy, dont call me a cheater, you dont know me. I asked the proctors if they had any rules and complied to what they told me.
I didn't call u a cheater, but what u did was cheating. I asked ppl in SDN if it's cheating or not and they said it's cheating so don't ask me.
I asked about it less than a week ago.

If you wanna talk about cheating, lets talk about how you cant think for yourself to save your life. You have 782 posts in one summer mostly consisting of asking people how to do things, what the answer is, where in campbell's or schaum's something is, etc.... I'm all for helping others out when they need, but you take it too far. What are you gonna do when you dont know how to proceed with a patient's treatment in your chair? Go online and ask someone on a message board?

yeah i have 782 posts and ask people how to do things.
I wonder how many questions u asked to Dr. Romano for hours and hours on the phone.
that's the only difference.

and u have 7 posts including DAT advertisement and u calling that helping others out when they need?

what are u gonna do when u don't know how to proceed with a patient's treatment in your chair? calling Dr. romano?

 

[BrooklynZoo1184]

OK, so I'll jump on the bandwagon and post my scores from yesterday:

BIO 22
GCHEM 23
OCHEM 23
QRT 23
RC 23
TS 22 (97.1%)
AA 23 (98.6%)
PAT 24 (99.9%)

The test was much easier than I expected, I honestly don't know what I missed on the OC and QR sections. As for the PAT, I didnt think it was any harder than Topscore and the angles weren't that bad if you know certain tricks. But, then again I have 20/15 vision so things always look pretty clear to me.

And to answer the question from the thread title, YES! Destroyer does work! I took the Kaplan course this summer, and although everyone knows Kaplan won't properly prepare you for the really high scores (esp. in BIO and PAT), I found the blue book irreplacable for reacquainting myself with the basic sciences. So, after the class ended at the end of July, I picked up Topscore, Acheiver and 3 weeks ago, the Destroyer.

For me, the Destroyer was the perfect material to top off my studying. Seriously, going through the problems and knowing that you know how to do the hardest problems is a big confidence booster. So was talking to Dr. Romano. We talked for over an hour on Monday going through problems I had questions about and problems he wanted me to know how to do. The personability and customer service of Dr. Romano and Nancy is unlike anything else out there.... try calling up Stanley Kaplan and asking him the mechanisms of a Claisen reaction! Selected Destroyer problems were the last thing I looked at before I left yesterday morning. But, it is NOT a fix all! You still have to pick up your old bio and chem books and notes, as well as take the practice tests and review them. You have to know what you are doing first ( ahem, Joon, coughcough), but Destroyer will kick you up a few nothces.

I'm so hungover right now 🙂 But feel free to ask any questions about the test, my preparation, or anything.

You set out to accomplish a goal and you accomplished it. I'm sure when you set the goal to be amazing with patients you will succeed there as well. I am very impressed, congratulations!

 

[lunguv]

OK, so I'll jump on the bandwagon and post my scores from yesterday:

BIO 22
GCHEM 23
OCHEM 23
QRT 23
RC 23
TS 22 (97.1%)
AA 23 (98.6%)
PAT 24 (99.9%)

The test was much easier than I expected, I honestly don't know what I missed on the OC and QR sections. As for the PAT, I didnt think it was any harder than Topscore and the angles weren't that bad if you know certain tricks. But, then again I have 20/15 vision so things always look pretty clear to me.

And to answer the question from the thread title, YES! Destroyer does work! I took the Kaplan course this summer, and although everyone knows Kaplan won't properly prepare you for the really high scores (esp. in BIO and PAT), I found the blue book irreplacable for reacquainting myself with the basic sciences. So, after the class ended at the end of July, I picked up Topscore, Acheiver and 3 weeks ago, the Destroyer.

For me, the Destroyer was the perfect material to top off my studying. Seriously, going through the problems and knowing that you know how to do the hardest problems is a big confidence booster. So was talking to Dr. Romano. We talked for over an hour on Monday going through problems I had questions about and problems he wanted me to know how to do. The personability and customer service of Dr. Romano and Nancy is unlike anything else out there.... try calling up Stanley Kaplan and asking him the mechanisms of a Claisen reaction! Selected Destroyer problems were the last thing I looked at before I left yesterday morning. But, it is NOT a fix all! You still have to pick up your old bio and chem books and notes, as well as take the practice tests and review them. You have to know what you are doing first ( ahem, Joon, coughcough), but Destroyer will kick you up a few nothces.

I'm so hungover right now 🙂 But feel free to ask any questions about the test, my preparation, or anything.

I call bs on your scores, unless you post a unaltered picture of your score card 🙂. Otherwise as far as I am concerned you work for Dr. Romano 😉.

 

[DividedByZero]

If you don't mind me asking, what strategies did you use for the TFE section of the PAT?

 

[Bradsher1984]

I dont know if you've looked at Kaplan or Barron's PAT strategies yet, but I didn't do anything different than what they suggest. Remember you don't have to mentally figure out what the whole shape looks like exactly(although this happens a lot inevitably), you just need to be able to pick out certain landmarks when comparing the four answers. The best advice I can give you is to practice, practice, practice til you know what you're looking for. Maybe start with the basics like Kaplan ,then Barron's, and then move on to Topscore and Acheiver (way too hard, but it makes the real thing seem like a piece of cake) if you have the time and money. Also, remember, the PAT will be more difficult on the computer screen than anything on paper, like the ADA sample test. Hope this helps.